Let's Talk Bosses, Especially The Easy Dragon

[HighFlyer15]

TheRightHand stated 20 max stat Rexes should always be a viable tactic against bosses and they do work. When you glitch the Broodmother, when you glitch the Dragon and when you support them with healing against the Ape. All Hard versions.

Since we now have the Yutyrannus, the boss fights should be more doable for even smaller tribes but Wildcard went and buffed the bosses because you apparently can't afford to have them easier by adding a new support dino. The bosses are meant to be hard but come on.

I went into the Gamma Dragon fight(easy) to test out the combo of Yutyrannus and 19 Rexes with 30k HP and 625% melee.
Before the Yutyrannus was added, the 20 Rexes absolutely melted the Gamma version of the Dragon and even gave the Hard version a run for its money. And it felt awesome. My hard work and wasted hours looking for high level Rexes had finally paid off but that feeling was quickly taken away from me today.
Now with 25% more damage and 25% damage resistance they got annihilated.
So they buffed the bosses to compensate for having support creatures in the game. The Hellpig is impossible to use for more than a splitsecond due to the high cost of supporting 19 Rexes at once. That's not a complaint. Healing 19 Rexes at once should be super expensive.

The biggest issue with the Dragon(no matter the difficulty) is the fire breath. It ignores armor and does 20% damage of the max health, so it absolutely does not matter if you have Rexes with 15k health or 40k health. They will all die to 5 fire breath attacks.
The optimal would be very low hp Rexes as they would heal up much faster and cheaper than 40k HP Rexes.

Before people tell me I want it to be a lot easier, I don't. But at least make it fair. The fire percentage damage is just a cheap way of balancing it.
I spent many months finding these stats on the Rexes, weeks breeding them to perfection, imprinting on each one and yet I can't even take down the Easy Dragon?
With the game having Easy, Medium and Hard options to choose from, why on Earth can't 19 Yutyrannus buffed pretty damn good melee stat Rexes beat the Easy version of the Dragon?

EDIT: I do however know the "pattern" of the Dragon.
It flies in at the start of the timer and once it gets hit, it'll spit a fireball, then either 2-3 more fireballs or summon minions. It then lands, usually starting out with a fire breath attack, then switching to bite. After that it's 9 bites, then flames. Unless you break contact with it, it'll keep doing that. Fire comes on the 10th attack. If you break contact it becomes a guessing game on when the flames will come next.

[Payne]

% damage is a scam and should be totally removed from the game. Exact number damage is fine, even bleeding effect is nice but % dmg as main dmg output is the laziest and stupidest PVE feature in this game. It is beyond retarded.

[illuminati_eric]

Originally posted by 123:

% damage is a scam and should be totally removed from the game. Exact number damage is fine, even bleeding effect is nice but % dmg as main dmg output is the laziest and stupidest PVE feature in this game. It is beyond retarded.

+1

[[LZ]Icy]

Originally posted by illuminati_eric:

Originally posted by 123:

% damage is a scam and should be totally removed from the game. Exact number damage is fine, even bleeding effect is nice but % dmg as main dmg output is the laziest and stupidest PVE feature in this game. It is beyond retarded.

+1

Dont forget ontop of that in officials u cant even see ur own damage dealt (so how can we even see the dmg we deal if there is only a %?

[kampfer91]

They should have nerfed the boss a bit to compensate for AI fixed and weapon / dino nerf....

[Payne]

Everyone glitch farming bosses should tell devs all they needed to know. If they listened.

[Cherrypie]

So to answer the orginal posters question. Bosses are not end game they were ment to be mid teir and scale up some. Wild card even says this so yea the world bosses were not ment for alpha tribes only. As end game is not fully finished yet.

[TheHsuHsuTrain]

Fighting bosses was also never fun, it was just a chore. The bosses wildcard has created are the laziest kind of bosses, ones with huge hp pools and one hit kill attacks. Maybe if the bosses had stages, like every five minutes would summon a giant cannon that could be used to take off 15 percent off the dragons hp, they would be more fun and skill based.

[Ark Forum]

625 melee... mh.... my rex, unleveled, on 100% imprint...

come out with 15840HP and 561 melee, and i can level them to up to 1200melee, or 1000 melee and arround 25000hp...

sooo.. maybe.. just maybe... you should use some PROPER rexes instead of the trash you just tried to use?

[CertifiedDwarfLord]

I feel the dragon/bosses in general arent really bosses in the sense that a boss is to act as a NAVIGATABLE obstacle to your goal, these "bosses" just mean "oh throw away 300 hours taming and breeding to kill me and I will destroy all your work for you" They should make bosses take more damage from player weapons as humans, the ultimate terminator on earth right now, cant do jack in a fight as our little tiny guns are so unrealistic, I mean if I shoot you, this bullet is going to go through flesh, destroying muscle tissue thus hindering movement, and possibly dooming you to internal bleeding, also rockets are garbage, they should OBLITERATE organic matter.
In a nutshell: Fix bosses, make them so a single person could take one on with some dinos and guns, and make guns realistic (debuffs to movement, bleeding, idk SOMETHING PLEASE!)

[BeardO]

Originally posted by methylphenidathydrochlorid:

625 melee... mh.... my rex, unleveled, on 100% imprint...

come out with 15840HP and 561 melee, and i can level them to up to 1200melee, or 1000 melee and arround 25000hp...

sooo.. maybe.. just maybe... you should use some PROPER rexes instead of the trash you just tried to use?

Maybe...just maybe...you should STFU. 20 perfect rexes to take on a boss is just stupid. I don't care who says otherwise. I personally think the bosses should only take one perfect rex. And it should scale so if you bring in 20 rexes it will be 20x harder than if you brought in one. Why? Because you should have to rely on tactics and mechanics rather an just numbers.

[Cherrypie]

Originally posted by methylphenidathydrochlorid:

625 melee... mh.... my rex, unleveled, on 100% imprint...

come out with 15840HP and 561 melee, and i can level them to up to 1200melee, or 1000 melee and arround 25000hp...

sooo.. maybe.. just maybe... you should use some PROPER rexes instead of the trash you just tried to use?

We defeated medium dragon with 1 40k 400 melee rex and 9 15k 425 melee junk rexes that we freaking claimed from a base on pve official. The key is bring players a mounted rex does 3 times the damage of a unmounted one. People doing these with 2 and 3 people should not complain always bring 9 to 10 peps junk rex ftw.

[Brax]

Originally posted by BeardO:

Originally posted by methylphenidathydrochlorid:

625 melee... mh.... my rex, unleveled, on 100% imprint...

come out with 15840HP and 561 melee, and i can level them to up to 1200melee, or 1000 melee and arround 25000hp...

sooo.. maybe.. just maybe... you should use some PROPER rexes instead of the trash you just tried to use?

Maybe...just maybe...you should STFU. 20 perfect rexes to take on a boss is just stupid. I don't care who says otherwise. I personally think the bosses should only take one perfect rex. And it should scale so if you bring in 20 rexes it will be 20x harder than if you brought in one. Why? Because you should have to rely on tactics and mechanics rather an just numbers.

That will never happen. It would completely defeat the purpose of the last year or so of breeding for improved stats. They added this breeding thing in to provide people an outlet for thousands of hours of gameplay where you really just sit on your ass and wait for stuff. They are not going to change the core game now.

[BeardO]

Originally posted by Brax:

Originally posted by BeardO:

Maybe...just maybe...you should STFU. 20 perfect rexes to take on a boss is just stupid. I don't care who says otherwise. I personally think the bosses should only take one perfect rex. And it should scale so if you bring in 20 rexes it will be 20x harder than if you brought in one. Why? Because you should have to rely on tactics and mechanics rather an just numbers.

That will never happen. It would completely defeat the purpose of the last year or so of breeding for improved stats. They added this breeding thing in to provide people an outlet for thousands of hours of gameplay where you really just sit on your ass and wait for stuff. They are not going to change the core game now.

Ummm no it wouldn't, in fact it would make breeding and the random stat boosts even more important.

[Cherrypie]

Just wish they droped way more element. Their risk vs reward is lame atm

[HighFlyer15]

Originally posted by methylphenidathydrochlorid:

625 melee... mh.... my rex, unleveled, on 100% imprint...

come out with 15840HP and 561 melee, and i can level them to up to 1200melee, or 1000 melee and arround 25000hp...

sooo.. maybe.. just maybe... you should use some PROPER rexes instead of the trash you just tried to use?

This is what I both love and hate about the game.
People trying to help by saying what is needed for sure to take down the bosses. Before I reached my 13,5k HP and 481% after imprinting Rexes, people kept telling me how at least 30k HP and 600-700% melee was needed for most bosses and, of course, bringing at least 20 of these to stand a proper chance.
Then we have arrogant people like this guy who cares about his epeen more than being helpful.
A base of 15840 HP and 561% melee is not proper, it's freaking magical. It's out of this world lucky HP and melee and you ended up with both of them.
Best part about your post is how you end it "instead of the trash you just tried to use". If you cared to read the post that "trash" took care of every single boss up until the Hard Broodmother and Hard Dragon without blinking before the recent 258 patch.