Multiple saves?

[Sprite Guard]

Is there a way to do multiple saves? I haven't been able to find one, nor even the save file itself. This would be very useful for being able to do challenges without spoiling a good run.

[tricosahedron]

I don't think there is a way, currently, but it would be a useful feature.

If that's not possible, it would be nice to have the option to start the game without loading a save game.

[__m__Yn_F_onY__d]

No built-in support, but if you're up for something hacky you could try backing up the file 'hyperrogue.log'. On Linux, it's in the home directory, not sure about other systems. Stats may not be preserved, unless perhaps you manage to merge the score files properly--'system.cpp' seems to cover the format if you're interested in delving into that. I haven't tried it at all myself and there's a risk of corrupting things this way.

[zeno]

The file you are looking for is the log file (hyperrogue.log). All your (notable) achievements in the game are logged to this file (in chronological order), including the current saved game. Configuration is in a separate file (hyperrogue.ini).

You can use a different log file, and thus have multiple saves, by using the command line option (right click HyperRogue -> launch options):

-s <filename>

You will have no in-game access to your local high scores. Unlocks based on land-specific high scores (minefield acceleration, Euclidean mode) will be active after HyperRogue downloads the data from Steam. I do not recall at this moment whether this has been implemented for other unlocks (chaos mode, princess challenge, Yendor Challenge, high-level Yendor Challenge).

Copying the log file, as well as merging multiple log files into one, should generally work, except the PTM, which uses a special format to prevent simply removing the bad scores (although it can be cheated in other ways). Of course keep backups and do not cheat :)

[Sprite Guard]

Thanks! I will play around with this; main reason is someone asked me to live-stream the game, which isn't possible the way I've been doing things.

[Strange Yeah]

Zeno, what exactly is a "cheat" in this context? I've now played more than 2,000 games of HyperRogue, and have spent at least 100 hours chasing the Hyperboloid Prodigy achievement. Every single time I've died I've just restarted in the Icy Lands with zero treasure, and vowed to pay more attention next time.

I've just unlocked the hyperstones for the fourth time, though I haven't collected any as yet. If I collect less than 50 and die, can I then load a copy of my current file (545 treasures and more than 2,000 kills) and continue from there? Is that cheating?

[tricosahedron]

Originally posted by Strange Yeah:

I've just unlocked the hyperstones for the fourth time, though I haven't collected any as yet.

According to your achievements and your leaderboard entry, you collected more than 50 Hyperstones, so I guess you succeeded in the end? Congrats! :)

Originally posted by Strange Yeah:

If I collect less than 50 and die, can I then load a copy of my current file (545 treasures and more than 2,000 kills) and continue from there? Is that cheating?

Yes, that would be cheating. Like other roguelikes, this game has permadeath, and when you die your save file is deleted, because you're not supposed to use it (or an earlier backup of that file) anymore.

I'd recommend to avoid collecting Hyperstones in Crossroads II or IV; I and III are a lot safer. Also, you can practice collecting Hyperstones in pure tactics or cheat mode (not sure what the unlock conditions are).

[__m__Yn_F_onY__d]

Originally posted by Strange Yeah:

If I collect less than 50 and die, can I then load a copy of my current file (545 treasures and more than 2,000 kills) and continue from there? Is that cheating?

It would go against the spirit of the game, but as a single player game, you can of course play it how you like. If you were to do this, it would be appropriate to do it offline so that it doesn't affect the leaderboards. Zeno tries to keep the leaderboards representative of the way the game was intended to be played.

[Strange Yeah]

Yes, I finally got more than 50 Hyperstones, so I can do something else with my life now :)


What I did in the end was collect about 10 Hyperstones from a Crossroads IV, and then never went near another one of those again. I wandered around Hives and Hells, looking for Crossroads I and III, and grabbing whatever I could safely get before getting away again. I also used dead orbs to mark a path from Orbs of Teleport, Invisibiliity and Space to a Crossroads I. Orbs of Teleport are incredibly useful when there are 20+ enemies on the screen.