STOP REGION LOCK IN CHINA!

[Kud]

Support language:Simplified Chinese

There is no sense that SE still lock FF TYPE-0 in China,please release FF TYPE-0 in CN region this time!

[Dustin Dalby]

UDKMaster님이 먼저 게시:

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Well, that was instructive. I find these practices kind of infuriating, though... How the hell were these companies allowed to do that without customers blowing a fuse?

[Ninja榻榻米]

SE noob

[namo]

RIP Iwata님이 먼저 게시:

UDKMaster님이 먼저 게시:

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Well, that was instructive. I find these practices kind of infuriating, though... How the hell were these companies allowed to do that without customers blowing a fuse?

Actually in mainland China players like us who use steam are minority compare to the majority players who only play online games such as chinese version of FF14 and CODOL or pirated games, and the government neither approves us to nor prohibits us from purchasing games on steam. No one really care about our feelings. These companies only care the majority player and the government only care whether a game contains politically sensetive content instead of players' rights.

[UDKMaster]

猫特莱恩님이 먼저 게시:

RIP Iwata님이 먼저 게시:

Well, that was instructive. I find these practices kind of infuriating, though... How the hell were these companies allowed to do that without customers blowing a fuse?

Actually in mainland China players like us who use steam are minority compare to the majority players who only play online games such as chinese version of FF14 and CODOL or pirated games, and the government neither approves us to nor prohibits us from purchasing games on steam. No one really care about our feelings. These companies only care the majority player and the government only care whether a game contains politically sensetive content instead of players' rights.

Exactly!

[Dustin Dalby]

猫特莱恩님이 먼저 게시:

RIP Iwata님이 먼저 게시:

Well, that was instructive. I find these practices kind of infuriating, though... How the hell were these companies allowed to do that without customers blowing a fuse?

Actually in mainland China players like us who use steam are minority compare to the majority players who only play online games such as chinese version of FF14 and CODOL or pirated games, and the government neither approves us to nor prohibits us from purchasing games on steam. No one really care about our feelings. These companies only care the majority player and the government only care whether a game contains politically sensetive content instead of players' rights.

Still, I'm sure Chinese gamers must want to play more Squeenix games than just FFXIV, and Shengda Games purposefully prevents them from doing that by buying distribution rights for games they have no intention to ever actually distribute.

I understand the cultural differences but surely it must piss *some* people off?

[UDKMaster]

RIP Iwata님이 먼저 게시:

猫特莱恩님이 먼저 게시:

Actually in mainland China players like us who use steam are minority compare to the majority players who only play online games such as chinese version of FF14 and CODOL or pirated games, and the government neither approves us to nor prohibits us from purchasing games on steam. No one really care about our feelings. These companies only care the majority player and the government only care whether a game contains politically sensetive content instead of players' rights.

Still, I'm sure Chinese gamers must want to play more Squeenix games than just FFXIV, and Shengda Games purposefully prevents them from doing that by buying distribution rights for games they have no intention to ever actually distribute.

I understand the cultural differences but surely it must piss *some* people off?

China is a huge market, huge enough to go beyond any company's expectation. Who don't want to make money in such a big market?

However, there ARE some companies. For reasons, of course.

SEGA, an idiot who puts a lock on all countries or regions in Asia, even Japan.

2K, which used to be one of the world's leading anti-chinese company, put region locks on all "Enemies of the US", such as mainland China, Iran, DPRK, etc. But recently, 2K started to sell some of its games to MC users, including NBA 2K15, 2K16, Civilization: Beyond the Earth. In the timeline of 2K, China and US have finally established diplomatic relationship between each other.

Square Enix, as mentioned above, cannot sell FF series in MC. Other games like Tomb Raiders, Deus EX, can be sold but a running lock on all Asian territories.

Ubisoft, which we chinese players call "UB.I.T.C.H", made strong effort to ban MC users in october 2014.
UBI wanted to officially introduce its console platform games to MC, thus it must undergo the strict censorship of Chinese gov. But in Uplay Interface, all UBI titles can be displayed in Win & Award panel. UBI don't want the games which haven't yet been successfully brought into MC to be displayed, so they acted really tough, to ban all MC users.
In the first attempt, they banned all users whose nationality is "China" in their profile and they failed because many MC players chose "US" instead. Second, they started to ban users whose Windows language is "simplified Chinese" and they failed again because many chinese players know English very well. In the final attempt, they banned all the request initiated from MC IP address and this time they succeeded.
HOWEVER, we chinese players started a strong protest against this infuriating action in UBI official English forum, asking UBI to remove the lock and give us an explanation. After a month of continuous protest, UBI finally unlocked all PC gamers in MC. But console gamers in MC still can't enjoy full features in UBI games till now, especially UPlay features.
BESIDES, UBI is the only company ever who changed players' game steam subid after the games was purchased. In other words, they changed the game edition in the background without noticing the player, which was a great insult to gamers' rights.

Other companies like SOE, who sells H1Z1 in MC but don't allow MC IP to access the game; many other MMOs, which already have agent companies in MC; and etc.

[Dustin Dalby]

UDKMaster님이 먼저 게시:

RIP Iwata님이 먼저 게시:

Still, I'm sure Chinese gamers must want to play more Squeenix games than just FFXIV, and Shengda Games purposefully prevents them from doing that by buying distribution rights for games they have no intention to ever actually distribute.

I understand the cultural differences but surely it must piss *some* people off?

China is a huge market, huge enough to go beyond any company's expectation. Who don't want to make money in such a big market?

However, there ARE some companies. For reasons, of course.

SEGA, an idiot who puts a lock on all countries or regions in Asia, even Japan.

2K, which used to be one of the world's leading anti-chinese company, put region locks on all "Enemies of the US", such as mainland China, Iran, DPRK, etc. But recently, 2K started to sell some of its games to MC users, including NBA 2K15, 2K16, Civilization: Beyond the Earth. In the timeline of 2K, China and US have finally established diplomatic relationship between each other.

Square Enix, as mentioned above, cannot sell FF series in MC. Other games like Tomb Raiders, Deus EX, can be sold but a running lock on all Asian territories.

Ubisoft, which we chinese players call "UB.I.T.C.H", made strong effort to ban MC users in october 2014.
UBI wanted to officially introduce its console platform games to MC, thus it must undergo the strict censorship of Chinese gov. But in Uplay Interface, all UBI titles can be displayed in Win & Award panel. UBI don't want the games which haven't yet been successfully brought into MC to be displayed, so they acted really tough, to ban all MC users.
In the first attempt, they banned all users whose nationality is "China" in their profile and they failed because many MC players chose "US" instead. Second, they started to ban users whose Windows language is "simplified Chinese" and they failed again because many chinese players know English very well. In the final attempt, they banned all the request initiated from MC IP address and this time they succeeded.
HOWEVER, we chinese players started a strong protest against this infuriating action in UBI official English forum, asking UBI to remove the lock and give us an explanation. After a month of continuous protest, UBI finally unlocked all PC gamers in MC. But console gamers in MC still can't enjoy full features in UBI games till now, especially UPlay features.
BESIDES, UBI is the only company ever who changed players' game steam subid after the games was purchased. In other words, they changed the game edition in the background without noticing the player, which was a great insult to gamers' rights.

Other companies like SOE, who sells H1Z1 in MC but don't allow MC IP to access the game; many other MMOs, which already have agent companies in MC; and etc.

Holy crap, this looks like an absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I don't know what to say, appart from I'm happy not to live in China right now, because bloody hell, I wouldn't be able to put up with this. xD

[UDKMaster]

RIP Iwata님이 먼저 게시:

UDKMaster님이 먼저 게시:

China is a huge market, huge enough to go beyond any company's expectation. Who don't want to make money in such a big market?

However, there ARE some companies. For reasons, of course.

SEGA, an idiot who puts a lock on all countries or regions in Asia, even Japan.

2K, which used to be one of the world's leading anti-chinese company, put region locks on all "Enemies of the US", such as mainland China, Iran, DPRK, etc. But recently, 2K started to sell some of its games to MC users, including NBA 2K15, 2K16, Civilization: Beyond the Earth. In the timeline of 2K, China and US have finally established diplomatic relationship between each other.

Square Enix, as mentioned above, cannot sell FF series in MC. Other games like Tomb Raiders, Deus EX, can be sold but a running lock on all Asian territories.

Ubisoft, which we chinese players call "UB.I.T.C.H", made strong effort to ban MC users in october 2014.
UBI wanted to officially introduce its console platform games to MC, thus it must undergo the strict censorship of Chinese gov. But in Uplay Interface, all UBI titles can be displayed in Win & Award panel. UBI don't want the games which haven't yet been successfully brought into MC to be displayed, so they acted really tough, to ban all MC users.
In the first attempt, they banned all users whose nationality is "China" in their profile and they failed because many MC players chose "US" instead. Second, they started to ban users whose Windows language is "simplified Chinese" and they failed again because many chinese players know English very well. In the final attempt, they banned all the request initiated from MC IP address and this time they succeeded.
HOWEVER, we chinese players started a strong protest against this infuriating action in UBI official English forum, asking UBI to remove the lock and give us an explanation. After a month of continuous protest, UBI finally unlocked all PC gamers in MC. But console gamers in MC still can't enjoy full features in UBI games till now, especially UPlay features.
BESIDES, UBI is the only company ever who changed players' game steam subid after the games was purchased. In other words, they changed the game edition in the background without noticing the player, which was a great insult to gamers' rights.

Other companies like SOE, who sells H1Z1 in MC but don't allow MC IP to access the game; many other MMOs, which already have agent companies in MC; and etc.

Holy crap, this looks like an absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I don't know what to say, appart from I'm happy not to live in China right now, because bloody hell, I wouldn't be able to put up with this. xD

As I said, ways may be narrowed and restricted, but NOTHING can extinguish our passion for gaming!

[Celebrimnar]

UDKMaster님이 먼저 게시:

RIP Iwata님이 먼저 게시:

Still, I'm sure Chinese gamers must want to play more Squeenix games than just FFXIV, and Shengda Games purposefully prevents them from doing that by buying distribution rights for games they have no intention to ever actually distribute.

I understand the cultural differences but surely it must piss *some* people off?

China is a huge market, huge enough to go beyond any company's expectation. Who don't want to make money in such a big market?

However, there ARE some companies. For reasons, of course.

SEGA, an idiot who puts a lock on all countries or regions in Asia, even Japan.

2K, which used to be one of the world's leading anti-chinese company, put region locks on all "Enemies of the US", such as mainland China, Iran, DPRK, etc. But recently, 2K started to sell some of its games to MC users, including NBA 2K15, 2K16, Civilization: Beyond the Earth. In the timeline of 2K, China and US have finally established diplomatic relationship between each other.

Square Enix, as mentioned above, cannot sell FF series in MC. Other games like Tomb Raiders, Deus EX, can be sold but a running lock on all Asian territories.

Ubisoft, which we chinese players call "UB.I.T.C.H", made strong effort to ban MC users in october 2014.
UBI wanted to officially introduce its console platform games to MC, thus it must undergo the strict censorship of Chinese gov. But in Uplay Interface, all UBI titles can be displayed in Win & Award panel. UBI don't want the games which haven't yet been successfully brought into MC to be displayed, so they acted really tough, to ban all MC users.
In the first attempt, they banned all users whose nationality is "China" in their profile and they failed because many MC players chose "US" instead. Second, they started to ban users whose Windows language is "simplified Chinese" and they failed again because many chinese players know English very well. In the final attempt, they banned all the request initiated from MC IP address and this time they succeeded.
HOWEVER, we chinese players started a strong protest against this infuriating action in UBI official English forum, asking UBI to remove the lock and give us an explanation. After a month of continuous protest, UBI finally unlocked all PC gamers in MC. But console gamers in MC still can't enjoy full features in UBI games till now, especially UPlay features.
BESIDES, UBI is the only company ever who changed players' game steam subid after the games was purchased. In other words, they changed the game edition in the background without noticing the player, which was a great insult to gamers' rights.

Other companies like SOE, who sells H1Z1 in MC but don't allow MC IP to access the game; many other MMOs, which already have agent companies in MC; and etc.

Very informative UDK Master
I am a foreigner living in China, so this kind of restriction affects me greatly. I laugh every time ppl blame the government about some region lock, and I have been looking for a clear and realistic answer since a long time.
I didn´t know about that Ubisoft crap disgusting...
But not everything is lost, and actually things can change for the best (sometimes): now we have the store in RMB with great prices, 2K lift the lock and all their games can be purchased, also SEGA games are available, rockstar released GTAV also with big discount....
As FF and CoD are locked because of a business deal, I guess the only "solution" would be for the Chinese publishers to make a deal with Valve and original publisher, and if the sales in China increase exponentially, that might happen.

[Bad_Conduct]

Kud♪님이 먼저 게시:

Support language:Simplified Chinese

There is no sense that SE still lock FF TYPE-0 in China,please release FF TYPE-0 in CN region this time!

Lets be honest, China region locks the rest of the world.

[Jeckenn]

UDKMaster님이 먼저 게시:

Well, according to my knowledge, there's nothing to do with the government or Square Enix this time, but Shengda Games, one of the largest online game company running in mainland China.

Shengda Games is now operating FF14, the MMO, as an agent company for SE in MC. Since Shengda wants to grab all the profit that FF14 may bring about, it has bought out the publishing and distributing of all FF titles in mainland China to stop the potential loss of customers, which means...yes, if you like FF series, please play our FF14 (censored and expurgated version, of course).

The same thing happened to all Call of Duty titles after COD: Modern Warfare 3 because Tencent is operating Call of Duty Online, which is designed exclusively for MC users by Activision. In return, they signed a contract that Activision can no longer sell COD titles to MC gamers via steam. However, the coming hitting COD title, COD: Black Ops 3, will also support both Simplified and Traditional Chinese for the first time so far in COD history!

Though we MC gamers cannot get some games directly via steam for various reasons, we can still buy retail keys from many other retailers. And I think SE, Activision and many other companies have the same idea.

Ways may be narrowed and restricted, but nothing can extinguish our passion for gaming!

This sounds like the most reasonable reason for this happening as I can definitely see many publishers who would not bat an eye at practices like buying the rights to all FF games and then only having their FF14 MMO out there for people to play that want to play FF games.

That way if you want to play FF in China come pay "me" first...basically so there are ZERO publishers on this planet that would not do something like that if they can get away with it, likely if it had anything to do with North American trade they couldn't get away with it but hard to say because if you own the rights to something you can pretty much do what you want with it.

[Herbert]

Its not their fault, its your dictatorship.

[L1mple "Кузия" Assunção]

UDKMaster님이 먼저 게시:

Well, according to my knowledge, there's nothing to do with the government or Square Enix this time, but Shengda Games, one of the largest online game company running in mainland China.

Shengda Games is now operating FF14, the MMO, as an agent company for SE in MC. Since Shengda wants to grab all the profit that FF14 may bring about, it has bought out the publishing and distributing of all FF titles in mainland China to stop the potential loss of customers, which means...yes, if you like FF series, please play our FF14 (censored and expurgated version, of course).

The same thing happened to all Call of Duty titles after COD: Modern Warfare 3 because Tencent is operating Call of Duty Online, which is designed exclusively for MC users by Activision. In return, they signed a contract that Activision can no longer sell COD titles to MC gamers via steam. However, the coming hitting COD title, COD: Black Ops 3, will also support both Simplified and Traditional Chinese for the first time so far in COD history!

Though we MC gamers cannot get some games directly via steam for various reasons, we can still buy retail keys from many other retailers. And I think SE, Activision and many other companies have the same idea.

Ways may be narrowed and restricted, but nothing can extinguish our passion for gaming!

Dude, I have a question, can you give the links that talked about Tencent and Activision's deal of barring COD franchises, and also the Shengda incident? I am doing an investigation on it, please, thank you very much.