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Joe Dec 17, 2016 @ 3:45am
Hard?
This game is much harder then Resident evil HD even at normal difficulty i have just made it to the research facility and i am constantly running past enemys running ot of ammo and i got killed by the leech enemy twice now i pumped its face with 12 shotgun rounds and he did not die then he slapped me and killed me :(

What are you're thoughts
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Carver Dec 17, 2016 @ 3:55am 
Don't waste any ammo on the Leech Zombies and just run around them.
There's only a couple of them and most of them early on are in areas that you only have to pass through 2/3 times at most. But if you want to kill them then I'd suggest using molotov coctails instead as they're weak to fire.

Zero is definetly a bit harder compared to REmake when it comes to the higher amount of enemies and the amount of available ammo. Best advice I can give you is to keep running and dodging zombies and only kill them when you need to. i.e. in areas that you think you'll be passing through often.
Last edited by Carver; Dec 17, 2016 @ 3:56am
DarkSamus Dec 17, 2016 @ 5:18am 
^This is some pretty good advice.
AngelOfMayhem Dec 17, 2016 @ 6:22pm 
RE Zero is definitely not harder at all. You just need to know when and what to fight and what enemies to just escape. If you don't have Grenade launcher loaded with fire rounds (which you don't), escape. However the best weapon on the leech zombies is the Sub-machine Gun. Which is a weapon you unlock after completing the game with an A rank or higher...

Apart from this, don't waste ammo in general and don't heal when you don't need to.
I see a lot of people mowing away the zombies on the train so when they get to the Training Facility, they are basically out of ammo.
Also, learn to fight the Stinger with the knife, regardless of difficulty.

My strategy for the game is to kill as few zombies on the train as possible (even if I kill most of them) with the handgun. The Hunting Gun I only use against the dogs in the second to last car and then I dump it. I also kill the Centipede with my handgun and thus I save the grenade launcher until the Infected Bat (5 hits with fire ammo on hard kills it). I use the shotgun for Eliminators, decapitating zombies and Hunters. And the first Proto Tyrant (6 magnum round hits first, but you can shoot 8 if you want).

Lastly, don't hoard to much stuff so you need to backtrack. Because that will spawn more enemies that you have to kill. Learn to optimize your inventory space and dump weak weapons early (like Rebecca's handgun when it's empty in the Training Facility - normally when you reach the Dining Room and have collected the Fire Key).
Also try to learn how to use Rebecca to "teleport" you out of rooms, so you can go to the end of it with Billy without killing e.g. zombies. The Storage room where you get the 7 round shotgun and the Black Statue, for example. That way you also skip the outside corridor which has 4 zombies.
Last edited by AngelOfMayhem; Dec 17, 2016 @ 6:26pm
Powellinho.72 Dec 17, 2016 @ 10:32pm 
zero is harder.
AngelOfMayhem Dec 17, 2016 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by Celtic Warrior:
zero is harder.
Realizing Zero isn't harder than RE1 is the hardest.
Ppl who think RE Zero is harder are either speedrunning it or they need to git gud.
Powellinho.72 Dec 17, 2016 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Originally posted by Celtic Warrior:
zero is harder.
Realizing Zero isn't harder than RE1 is the hardest.
Ppl who think RE Zero is harder are either speedrunning it or they need to git gud.

I speak english, sorry but i dont understand you.
AngelOfMayhem Dec 17, 2016 @ 11:08pm 
Originally posted by Celtic Warrior:
Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Realizing Zero isn't harder than RE1 is the hardest.
Ppl who think RE Zero is harder are either speedrunning it or they need to git gud.

I speak english, sorry but i dont understand you.
Oh no. I replied to a troll. :/
My mistake.
The threads here are cancer anyway.
Powellinho.72 Dec 17, 2016 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Originally posted by Celtic Warrior:

I speak english, sorry but i dont understand you.
Oh no. I replied to a troll. :/
My mistake.
The threads here are cancer anyway.

zero is 100 percent harder.
AngelOfMayhem Dec 17, 2016 @ 11:22pm 
Originally posted by Celtic Warrior:
Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Oh no. I replied to a troll. :/
My mistake.
The threads here are cancer anyway.

zero is 100 percent harder.
Mhm. Then you need to learn how to play it well.
I guess you haven't played REmake on Real Survival mode, etc, etc.
Powellinho.72 Dec 17, 2016 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Originally posted by Celtic Warrior:

zero is 100 percent harder.
Mhm. Then you need to learn how to play it well.
I guess you haven't played REmake on Real Survival mode, etc, etc.

you thought wrong. zero is harder.
Lanzagranadas Dec 18, 2016 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Originally posted by Celtic Warrior:
zero is harder.
Realizing Zero isn't harder than RE1 is the hardest.
Ppl who think RE Zero is harder are either speedrunning it or they need to git gud.

It's not about getting good, it's actually harder on base difficulties because you have to take care of two characters, more complex item management, be more careful with backtracking and where you leave your items since there are no magic item boxes, and you can't cheat boss battles as you can do in RE/remake (i.e. not fighting 1st Yawn, Barry saving your ass against Plant 42, killing 2nd Tyrant with just a rocket launcher or not even fighting him at all)

Once you know the game it's not like it's super hard, but it's really easy to screw up on a blind RE0 playthrough.

Then Real Survival on the Remake sure makes things harder, but that's another story since it's not the default difficulty settings.
talgaby Dec 18, 2016 @ 1:09pm 
Zero isn't more difficult, only if you try to kill everything. The only thing it is more difficult at is that it forces you to dodge in some much tighter areas, especially in the beginning. (Plus those damned monkeys can be a pain.) But if I had to compare its hard mode to, for example, Real Survivor with ODZ or Invisible mode in RE1HD (the highest difficulties there), then RE0 is a cakewalk.

For first runs, they may be similar. RE1 is easier to get lost at, RE0 needs more hairy dodges. It also has more insta-killing enemies (I sooo much hate those frogs…). But in general the simple enemy design and much shorter levels make it easier, just by cutting the backtracking levels (assuming you don't leave the hookshot at the train wreckage up until the chapel).
Powellinho.72 Dec 18, 2016 @ 1:11pm 
Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:
Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Realizing Zero isn't harder than RE1 is the hardest.
Ppl who think RE Zero is harder are either speedrunning it or they need to git gud.

It's not about getting good, it's actually harder on base difficulties because you have to take care of two characters, more complex item management, be more careful with backtracking and where you leave your items since there are no magic item boxes, and you can't cheat boss battles as you can do in RE/remake (i.e. not fighting 1st Yawn, Barry saving your ass against Plant 42, killing 2nd Tyrant with just a rocket launcher or not even fighting him at all)

Once you know the game it's not like it's super hard, but it's really easy to screw up on a blind RE0 playthrough.

Then Real Survival on the Remake sure makes things harder, but that's another story since it's not the default difficulty settings.

+1
AngelOfMayhem Dec 18, 2016 @ 3:34pm 
Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:
Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Realizing Zero isn't harder than RE1 is the hardest.
Ppl who think RE Zero is harder are either speedrunning it or they need to git gud.

It's not about getting good, it's actually harder on base difficulties because you have to take care of two characters, more complex item management, be more careful with backtracking and where you leave your items since there are no magic item boxes, and you can't cheat boss battles as you can do in RE/remake (i.e. not fighting 1st Yawn, Barry saving your ass against Plant 42, killing 2nd Tyrant with just a rocket launcher or not even fighting him at all)

Once you know the game it's not like it's super hard, but it's really easy to screw up on a blind RE0 playthrough.

Then Real Survival on the Remake sure makes things harder, but that's another story since it's not the default difficulty settings.
Some of you keep comparing apples and pears.
"On base difficulty", "blind RE 0 playthrough", "once you know the game (REmake)".
It's not a level playing field.
Let's compare a blind playthrough of Zero and REmake. On normal difficulty. A lot more puzzles in REmake. Some very annoying battles and having to mix V-JOLT, etc, etc.
How would you know Barry can save you from fighting the plant and not having to make V-JOLT, etc?
Zero is more straight forward.
Sure, it was ages ago since my first playthrough of Zero so I can't remember what I thought. I do remember thinking Normal was a bit too easy after a while though. (On Easy you can get hurt all the time and kill every enemy in the game three times over. It's the real n00b mode.)

I think it's more fair to compare the games once you know them a little though. And then Zero has a much faster learning curve. And only Hard Mode, which is not that difficult at all. REmake has the other modes which are insanely difficult to most people. Zero on Normal is a breeze and you can get through the game easily and even be quite careless and waste ammo and heals.
And you don't *have* to control both characters. Only protect Rebecca. Preferrably by controlling her in boss fights to get her to shoot more as she is so passive.

About the Lurkers ("frogs") in Zero, you can shake them off. I got caught last time I played and was alone with Billy. But I made it.
Seems to me a lot of people complain about Zero because they haven't figured it out and think it "sucks" that there are no lazy item boxes and an even larger amount of ammo and heals. The amount of ammo might be scarce on Hard mode, but not if you do things right.
The simple fact that REmake is so much longer to get through makes it a harder game, because you have to think about so many things.
Lanzagranadas Dec 18, 2016 @ 5:12pm 
Originally posted by talgaby:
But if I had to compare its hard mode to, for example, Real Survivor with ODZ or Invisible mode in RE1HD (the highest difficulties there), then RE0 is a cakewalk.

If I had to compare with Real Survival or Invisible Enemy, I would say the same, but those are special modes, not difficulty settings, so I'm pretty sure that RE on Invisible + Hard would make RE0 look easy, but that's another story. I compared default Hard from REmake with default hard from RE0, and I allways found the first a little easier.

Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
And you don't *have* to control both characters. Only protect Rebecca. Preferrably by controlling her in boss fights to get her to shoot more as she is so passive.

You have to take care of both characters, not controlling both of course, that's what I meant.

Originally posted by AngelOfMayhem:
Seems to me a lot of people complain about Zero because they haven't figured it out and think it "sucks" that there are no lazy item boxes and an even larger amount of ammo and heals. The amount of ammo might be scarce on Hard mode, but not if you do things right.
The simple fact that REmake is so much longer to get through makes it a harder game, because you have to think about so many things.

I wouldn't say it's a complain, if it's harder it's good for me because I like to be challenged.

I don't know where did you get that RE remake is much longer than RE0, they're pretty much the same lenght, and judging by speedruns both games seem to have worldwide record times between 1.20 and 1.25 (I guess that's on easy or normal) because on Hard they both scale to 1.50+.
Last edited by Lanzagranadas; Dec 18, 2016 @ 5:25pm
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