I screwed up with Licia of Lindelt and seriously need help.

[Rainman]

So there is this oh faithfull chick trying to get me into paying 2k souls to her, just so she can put a key in a lock and open me a closed path. Well.. I was like "HELL NA! AM GONNA SMACK YO ASS AN OPEN DAT PAT BA MA SELF!"... It didn't quite work out as planned.. I endet up loosing about 5k souls on her. She was constantly laughing when she killed me. I tell you! On the inside she is an evil witch.

But to get to the point , I stuggled killing her so I activated brain.exe and came up with the best idea I've ever had! (so I thought)..
I triggered her, ran back to Majula with her following me, and pushed her down the huge hole to the Saint grave.
It turns out to be another bad idea, cause she WAS actually killed, but her items seemed to have fallen to the ground of the pit with her..
So I still have no key and neighther the NPC who could drop it.

So here is my question:
How could I open the path to Huntsman's Copse?
Is it possible to get to the ground of the big hole maybe?
Can I somehow cheat (don't tell the mods I said that!) a rotunda lockstone,
or is there a second one?
Shall I just put a .45 in my mouth?...

I DON'T KNOW! Please help me with this issue.

[Clownpuncher]

you can do all them things..or you could start a new game.

[Papa Shekels]

That was an interesting read.

Based on your description (i.e lost 5k souls), you are pretty early on in the game, so if you don't want to live with the consequences of your actions then restarting shouldn't be too bad.

What do you mean by the bottom of the hole? If she died of fall damage (as in on one of the wooden platforms), you can make your way down there - although it would take a lot of HP and/or some gear that reduces fall damage. If she just fell into the abyss, that is an endless pit. In the other souls games, if a NPC falls off a cliff and you save and quit the game, their loot should appear where they usually stood. I don't remember doing this in DS2 but I also don't see why they would remove it here but keep it in ds1/3.

Additionally, DS2 has a mechanic where NPCs you kill will be respawnable after a while. After enough in game hours pass, there will be a gravestone where she usually stood, and you can pay some amount of souls to talk to her.

Other than that, you are kind of locked out. That is the only lockstone in the game, and it is a key item so nobody can drop one for you. You can beat the game without ever going to huntsman's copse, but you will miss out on quite a few bosses/NPCs and some pretty good loot. You can cheat one in but be sure to know what you're doing - obviously play offline while you do that, and don't do anything naughty other than fixing that one mistake

[Rainman]

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

That was an interesting read.

-I hoped I could at least entertain.
I am on level 91 and fighting fith two swords.. so it is pretty hard to get that "far".. but it might be an option.

- She fell down the hole and hit none of the platforms.. I also thought it is a hole with no ground..

- so I might try to talk to her if her tombstone appears.

Thanks for the help tho.

(oh and cheating would be the last thing to think of.. I never cheated expect for GTA... not V)

[Vinnolo]

are you sure the item is not where she was originally standing still? i always kill her by throwing her the cliff near the entrance to majula, her items always appear there where she was before the fight started, it appears after resting at the bonfire

[Post, Son of Yawgmoth]

Getting rid of her early is actually good because she invades and is very annoying later. When you first see her after the dragon rider, aggro her, and smack her off the cliff. Ez

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Kill4rz:

are you sure the item is not where she was originally standing still? i always kill her by throwing her the cliff near the entrance to majula, her items always appear there where she was before the fight started, it appears after resting at the bonfire

Just came to post this, although you MIGHT dun goofed if you logged out or died. But since it's a key item I guess it should spawn at her original location anyway.

In case that this doesn't work... You can get min. 1,000,000 SM. Then you can do the shrine of winter "skip". The requirements for opening it are either "get all 4 great souls" or "get x souls in your current playthrough" with x being 1 million in NG, 2 mil in NG+, 3 mil in NG++ and so on.

[Rainman]

alright I will search every place she has ever been and look for it.
but I am certain it wasn't neither at the last location she stood before falling down the cliff, nor where she startet to fight me.
I also managed to get down the hole as deep as possible.. managed to aquire every item on the way down and there was no key at all..

If I happen to find it anywhere, I'll let you know.

[Mirage]

She should have a tombstone eventually, which is also going to cost you more than that 2k souls lol.

[Rainman]

Update:
now I finished the rotton, got back to majula and there was Licia's tombstone. so I payed up the 7k souls to talk to her aaaaaaand.....
she got no key anymore.. well.. what would a ghost do with a key afterall..
now I'm stuck and if I remember correctly, I have to go there to kill the Iron King?
I think he has a great soul too?

Overview:
I pushed Licia down the hole in Majula, she dies, no item drop on the ledge where she fell off, no drop on any obstacle in reach of the player down the hole, no drop at her standard locations (majula and heide tower) and even If one talks to her ghost, she can't move the path.

Game Over

[Mirage]

You can still just skip with a million souls, that oh so great game design people seem to love so much.

[Rainman]

Originally posted by Mirage:

You can still just skip with a million souls, that oh so great game design people seem to love so much.

Do I need the one million souls cash or do I just need the "soullevel" of 1M...
I just can't emagine to carry one million souls with me.

[guy.lateur]

Originally posted by Rainman:

Originally posted by Mirage:

You can still just skip with a million souls, that oh so great game design people seem to love so much.

Do I need the one million souls cash or do I just need the "soullevel" of 1M...
I just can't emagine to carry one million souls with me.

SM >= 1M

[Papa Shekels]

Just looked it up, that seems to be a very specific bug with pushing her down the well. People are saying it respawns where she died if you push her off the cliff at Heide's tower. At this point it might be in your best interest to just use cheat engine to drop a lifegem or something and turn it into the lockstone, or to set your latest bonfire (to warp back to with a homeward bone) as the first one in huntsman's copse

[Hursti]

this seems like a fitting punishment for self-acknowledged cheater like OP.

[Rainman]

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

Just looked it up, that seems to be a very specific bug with pushing her down the well. People are saying it respawns where she died if you push her off the cliff at Heide's tower. At this point it might be in your best interest to just use cheat engine to drop a lifegem or something and turn it into the lockstone, or to set your latest bonfire (to warp back to with a homeward bone) as the first one in huntsman's copse

My SM is on 738k... so I will just go further and try the skipping thing.
but if this doesn't work either, I am deffenitly going to.. "create" another one