Elephants... Why are they only avaible to the Sassanids?!

[YoYopuppet]

Someone add elephants to the "new" eastern tribes! Its stupid how only one faction is allowed to use them! PLEASE :(

[Ammianus Marcellinus]

because that's historically accurate ;). Roman republic did deploy elephants. Only the Sassanids deployed elephants in combat in Late Antiquity.

[YoYopuppet]

But all of the eastern tribes, going far deeper into Afrika, surely must have used them. For god sake, the indians still used elephants when Napoelon whent on to be a big shot.

[YoYopuppet]

All I´m asking for is someone adding the Indian elephants to the playable factions (the DLC´s one) so they can be used by someone else than the already (VERY STRONG) Sassanid empire.

[The_Yogi]

Originally posted by YoYopuppet:

But all of the eastern tribes, going far deeper into Afrika, surely must have used them. For god sake, the indians still used elephants when Napoelon whent on to be a big shot.

The problem was North African Elephant which were used by Carthaginians against Rome, were already extinct by Attila's timeframe. Syrian Elephant which were used by Hellenistic Diadochs were already extinct too.

African Savannah Elephant, the biggest ones, are still around up until modern times, sure. But they are very hard to tame, very aggresive compared to other elephants.

By comparison, Sassanids can just go to their eastern border to India, and hire mahouts with their elephants.

Oh, who are you referring by "eastern tribes"?

Adding them by mod is not hard at all, by the way. Someone will, eventually.

[Big Moustache]

Elephants do more damage than good now, every army that spawns has onagers in it. Have fun watching them stampede your own forces. In rtw2 a single archer volley with fire was enough as well (from ai, player had to waste several volleys). Bring another unit of cav, they are boss in this game.

[YoYopuppet]

I accept all of this.... Critism, but let´s be honest. The eastern factions DLC´s should allow atleast one of them to hire persian elephants. Since of the factions are a horde, they could atleast pretend to hire mahouts from India?

[Valder]

Originally posted by Fragoos:

Elephants do more damage than good now, every army that spawns has onagers in it. Have fun watching them stampede your own forces. In rtw2 a single archer volley with fire was enough as well (from ai, player had to waste several volleys). Bring another unit of cav, they are boss in this game.

Really hated this in Rome 2. It made elephants so useless. They were ok, but AI needed to shoot one volley and they went berserk.

I can't imagine that Tanukhids would be able to recruit them. They are far off from India. Just hard to imagine a horde using elephants as pack mules.

[NotActuallyACat]

Originally posted by Fragoos:

Elephants do more damage than good now, every army that spawns has onagers in it. Have fun watching them stampede your own forces. In rtw2 a single archer volley with fire was enough as well (from ai, player had to waste several volleys). Bring another unit of cav, they are boss in this game.

Not to mention elephants get utterly destroyed by even scout equites.

[MINOS]

In Attila big entities like horses and up don't receive impact damage like they did in rome 2...
so elephants can't trample through horses anymore (totally unrealistic and immersion and balance breaking...)

But there are mods to eliminate this, for example this one here:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=519881044

[MINOS]

Before the mod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNVAGiwMIc

After the Mod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRGz_r-VVTU

[YoYopuppet]

Great. Now the mod which add Mahouts mercenaries and abit of small elephants to some of the more, persian/eastern factions.

[MINOS]

For that you have to ask in the twcenter forum, section about mod requesting, not steam...