Croatia included but where is Serbia?

[Mithrandir]

That is really strange, but I am happy even like this if they remembered to include some members of the Slavic tribes.

[Fanest]

the map is cut off before it reaches lands where Serbians ruled

[Mithrandir]

Fair enough, it is a bit frustrating tho, cause Serbia was pretty important at one point in history, but it is constantly ignored by the CA team. Oh well, gotta wait for Medieval 3 or Medieval Kingdoms mod.

[Talos]

implying that Medieval 3 will probably not have all of Yugoslavia under Hungary or some crap like that again

[Maschinengewehr]

Oh gawd please dont start a Serbian/Balkan nationalistic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ please..

[Metal Izanagi]

Postat inițial de Mithrandir:

Fair enough, it is a bit frustrating tho, cause Serbia was pretty important at one point in history, but it is constantly ignored by the CA team. Oh well, gotta wait for Medieval 3 or Medieval Kingdoms mod.

Except...they really weren't all that important, compared to the much larger European and middle-eastern nations. I get it, you like your country. That's cool. But let's not act like Serbia was ever anywhere near important on the stage of the world.

I'm saying this as politely as I can, but this Serbian nationalism stuff that crops up in every strategy game ever needs to stop. I don't know what it is with Serbia in particular, but it seems like every game where you can play as a country in that area these days, someone from Serbia shows up and wants to know why Serbia isn't represented, and then acts like Serbia was at some point relevant to world history. I'm sorry, but Serbia really was not ever important in the big picture, and was never a world power. They were relevant in the small area that they were a part of, in a very specific time period, but unless there's a "Total War: Balkans" you're not likely to see Serbia represented as anything more than a special unit or two that can be recruited by whoever owns Serbia.

I get it; Serbian history, and the history of a lot of nations in that part of the world, is bloody, and there's a strong desire to make sure that your people are remembered, and never again treated poorly. You want to make your mark on the world, and stay relevant. That is totally okay; the thing you have to remember is that the way to be remembered in this world is to share your culture, and not to just ask why you're not being noticed.

If you want people to notice you, and take interest in your culture, /show us/. Show us the really cool parts of your culture; for a game like Total War, show us your cool military uniforms, weapons, and the type of units that your country fielded in the time period during which you want to see them represented. Show us how brave your culture's warriors were, and show us why it would be cool to have them represented. Chances are, you'll find that more people are interested than you think, and were just waiting for someone to offer some insight into your culture.

Right now, all people are seeing is, "Where's Serbia?" We're not seeing the cool stuff that Serbia has to offer the game. We're not seeing reports of battles that Serbia was involved in, the equipment that their military used, the leaders that led Serbia to victory against its foes. Games like Total War tend to attract all sorts of history buffs, even casual ones like me, and we LOVE to see and read about different cultures, and their militaries.

[Mithrandir]

What nationalism are you talking about? Are you serious? It needs to stop? I said I was glad Croatia was included at least. Was Croatia that important at that stage in history? Serbian Principality rose 780AD, it lasted until 969AD. Serbian Grand Principality was much stronger and came later. But I am not sure what do you want me to "show" you. Is there an aplication for a nation to be included in a Total War game? And I am not trying to start a war or anything, what you are doing is presuming that I am some nationalist, while I just want to see some life where a constant black hole in a map is.

[Sib3riX]

Medieval 3 HYPE!!!

[Zef]

Not this ♥♥♥♥ again, what is with serbs and nationalism.

You're like those ♥♥♥♥♥ on yt debating wether Nikola Tesla was serbian or croatian.

Answer: It doesn't matter.

[Mithrandir]

Got my answers, thank you all for your time.

[(WTH)KhanLevski]

OMG dude at that time serbia was RASHKA and rashka was under BULGARIAN control so practicly there were no serbs at all at that timeperiod

[Mithrandir]

Nice, thanks.

[Budoshi]

implying that we are gonna have a medieval 3 :))

[Sydanti]

I'm confused, there's a Slavic DLC coming out so what's the problem?

[.empty]

i sense some racism in the air.

[Coldsnaps]

I honestly don't think OP intended to have any nationalism in his post.