Do you remember 29/07/2019 A.D.?

[SlenderKnirpZ]

Dear Devs&Community! On that day came out the last UP-Date for Toxikk.It's been a while since 3 years ago.Just sayin.As long as I'm livin I wont give up hope that someday in the future comes surprysingly new content,maps etc for my First Love Arena-FPS Toxikk..................
Sigh........

[Vassago Rain]

I remember they added a really terrible FREE(tm) mode that insulted everybody so much that they didn't tell their friends about the game. This would then be repeated by virtually every other HARDCORE ARENA TRUE GAMER FRAG LIKE IT'S 99 RAAAA project for the rest of time, dooming the genre to a life in the trash bin.

Many years later, the process was perfected to create diabotical, the most soulless, cynical, hipster, e-sports cashgrab ever, and it's effectively killed "arena FPS."

I hear you can still play virtually every single shooter ever made in some kind of deathmatch mode, so there was never actually a demand for the genre to exist.

I remember Xonotic, Warsow, quake champions, blacklight, reflex arena, warfork, dirty bomb, lawbreakers, mid-air (the super cynical version), mid-air (the relaunched forever never released version), tribes, quake like with ads, paladins, bleeding edge, battleborn, toxikk, the unreal tournament that got cancelled in favor of fortnite, despite being a player run project, laser league (salvaged), splitgate (did something new, but sucked. Patched to not suck, because the developers aren't stereotypical e-sports drones), deus ex: breach, and diabotical coming out in constant streams.

They very rarely rival quake 2. That's the second quake, with the actual singleplayer story mode, objectives, items, secrets, big maps, mod support, expansion packs, and something that resembles player feedback when you get hurt. Everybody says they want to frag, but they don't - they want to load up quake 2 on LAN, and play the campaign with 4 other guys on hard+ and see how far they can get before the game stonewalls them.

This extremely simple lure was later used to great success to make Serious Sam a very popular series for many years, and they took that a step above, since it allowed you to play splitscreen.

No one wants the cynical and soulless hardcore deathmatch 30 dollar games that would be in the 3.49 euro section if they were sold in the 90s. No one cares that your tank junior clones are moving their 10 polygons at 700 frames a second.

Paladins, despite its huge number of flaws and many downgrades, still has the best deathmatch mode in the industry, because it has all the elegance of unreal and quake, with all the experiments that followed, like simple classes ripped from team fortress, and winning isn't 100% about having the fastest draw in the west. You need your resources, your ammo, a good position, maybe an ability or special ammunition, so on. Stack advantages then be rewarded.

The parkour shooters, like crysis and titanfall, are the ones that deserve to be brought back, but they're tainted by arena FPS cynicism ties. If they make an F2P version of crysis 4's multiplayer, they could bring it all back, but then the hardcore deathmatchers will start whining that people are having fun in a way that deviates from the sacred quake 3 formula, so developers never bother.

tl;dr it was never alive to begin with, and self-destructed like all the other ones.

[Sackback]

700 frames a second is very important.

[SlenderKnirpZ]

SO you're talking about "most soulless,cynical,hipster,e-sports cashgrab ever"? Hhhm and how do you call Fortnite,Overwatch,Raid of shadow legends etc? I confess I never played those games because I'm NO fan of Multiplayer/Co Op only FPS. I'm FFA/Deathmatch "Team LoneWolf"Player.Question of taste I know.I prefer Games with bots PUBG could be a thing for me maybe. I like Wolfenstein E.T.,Half Life 2-Deathmatch,
Unreal Tournament,Serious Sam FFA or TOXIKK's Deathmatch with Vehicles R-rated gory mature Arena FPS.

[Vassago Rain]

All those games have tons of singleplayer material, lore, wikis, high production youtube things, and characters that people remember.

No effort whatsoever was made to push the arena FPS garbage games. Quick and blatant cashgrabs. No one cares because there's nothing to care about.

[Mr.Soul]

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

All those games have tons of singleplayer material, lore, wikis, high production youtube things, and characters that people remember.

No effort whatsoever was made to push the arena FPS garbage games. Quick and blatant cashgrabs. No one cares because there's nothing to care about.

that may be true, but even less people ever cared about "parkour shooters" (w/e f that is), nor did they ever care about Crysis Wars, which was the most cash grabbie, gimicky and garbage online shooter ever, do rem UT99 and UT2k4, the actual best online shooter ever made being GOTY, best sellers and still played today though.

No one cares about Toxikk because people that still play these games never needed to move on past 2k4, and this was just some indie pass over to what was supposed to be UT4 and game ,unlike crapfall 2 and crysomemoreaboutyourdeadfranchise wars was highly anticipated until Epic decided to derp themselves for a truly fad game which had all of about 2 years before started to decline into joke it is today for even young kids who have moved onto better games that poo night and w/e else garbo unheard of b rate games your going on about.

A new UT would sell like hot cakes, go ahead mald more over lost love Crybaby wars and oldman quake 2 but its the truth and we all know it.

[Ninja_Freak]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

All those games have tons of singleplayer material, lore, wikis, high production youtube things, and characters that people remember.

No effort whatsoever was made to push the arena FPS garbage games. Quick and blatant cashgrabs. No one cares because there's nothing to care about.

that may be true, but even less people ever cared about "parkour shooters" (w/e f that is), nor did they ever care about Crysis Wars, which was the most cash grabbie, gimicky and garbage online shooter ever, do rem UT99 and UT2k4, the actual best online shooter ever made being GOTY, best sellers and still played today though.

No one cares about Toxikk because people that still play these games never needed to move on past 2k4, and this was just some indie pass over to what was supposed to be UT4 and game ,unlike crapfall 2 and crysomemoreaboutyourdeadfranchise wars was highly anticipated until Epic decided to derp themselves for a truly fad game which had all of about 2 years before started to decline into joke it is today for even young kids who have moved onto better games that poo night and w/e else garbo unheard of b rate games your going on about.

A new UT would sell like hot cakes, go ahead mald more over lost love Crybaby wars and oldman quake 2 but its the truth and we all know it.

This sums it up for me nicely. Toxikk had great potential. Maps looked great but the servers weren't there (despite being able to host your own) and for those that weren't familiar with the genre, the learning curve was too steep.

This game needed better support and PR but instead it ended up as a cash grab with zero longevity.

Shame really..

[Sharkster]

Originally posted by Ninja_Freak:

ended up as a cash grab with zero longevity.

Whose cash was grab'd?

[R0An]

In Jan of 2015 I bought the "DOUBLE KILL PACKAGE" for 25 USD which contained 2 CD Keys, a Pro League Founders' Badge, and another item which (I forgot what it was, probably a DVD or something )was promised to send, but never was.

Then in 2016 Reakktor Support Team sent me a "TOXIKK Founder Reward (L3 Tier) - Double Kill Package: FOUNDER SKIN". It is an activation code in Steam. That's all for now.

I could still remember the hype when the game was announced. "Frag like it was 1999" brought so many enthusiastic players together, and the forum ( at toxikk.com, not the Steam forum) was crowed!

People are fond of Battle Royale now. It's the fall of Arena FPS after all. It is the end of an era, which remained in some players' memory.

[Sharkster]

Thanks for your support, R0An. Yea, the AFPS days are pretty much over as a mass phenomenon. I guess it's too exhausting and requires too much practice to really be attractive to the average modern-day gamer.

About the rewards: The founders' DVDs were all sent out in late 2016. The "Double-Kill" pack came with the forum badge, a discount on the activation keys and the skin IIRC.

[Nego ze]

Originally posted by Sharkster:

Thanks for your support, R0An. Yea, the AFPS days are pretty much over as a mass phenomenon. I guess it's too exhausting and requires too much practice to really be attractive to the average modern-day gamer.

About the rewards: The founders' DVDs were all sent out in late 2016. The "Double-Kill" pack came with the forum badge, a discount on the activation keys and the skin IIRC.

mas isso n muda o facto

[xlarve烟雨朝昏尽属君]

great game in wrong time

[SlenderKnirpZ]

Another thang that turns me off a little is that the Workshop instead increasing or growing was even shrinking: That cool looking Android/Cyborg(?)-Woman from Timesplitters Gretel MK II was removed.I never played Timesplitters until now but I read it's hidden or locked in Homefront? Salem-Map and Dracula-Map are vanished too as it seems? This two maps or this Gretel MK II Model never worked for me.But I do research where I can find and play those Timesplitters Games on my P.C. IF YOU have any ideas or tips where I could find those games for Windows 10 let me know ok? Thank ya'll!

[KingDian]

Seems a bit off topic, but you need the Timesplitters 2 Redux https://github.com/HFTSRedux/TS2Redux and a copy of Homefront Revolution

[SlenderKnirpZ]

Thanks for your informations! SO if I purchase Homefront Revolution here on Steam,I can play TimeSplitters for real?! O.K. I will do that in a while.I just wonder why they don't remaking those games for P.C. ALL of em and bring those games here on Steam? The Models or Avatars are looking pretty cool and interesting: The Nun with the ChainSaw or this Gretel MK II-Model.I check the options out.But for now there's a new similar game influenced by this games: TIME SHIFTERS(?) what catched my interest..........