Female samurai warriors

[holdem]

Is it woke or dei, both or neither?
Your thoughts?

[Shield]

actually i think its SJW

[Justin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha

Let history decide if it's DEI or woke.

[White Rabbit Alice]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunoichi

and before you ask, theres your ninja one.

[OyajiBR☕]

They existed and were actually admired for doing it despite their disadvantages compared to men, but they were also rare. I'm not an expert in Japanese culture, but I studied the language until some point and a bit of the story years ago. Don't be surprised if you see gay samurai too, there was frequent (and very discrete) sexual relationship between some masters and disciples.

[Deadly Dan]

There were female warriors, although they were exceptionally rare. They were mostly trained in archery and Naginata fighting, so light weight fighting styles.
But they cannot be considered "female samurais". Only the patriarchs of the clans were considered samurai.

[holdem]

Originally posted by PSA:

Although they weren't samurai, there were female bushi during that time.

but the why make them samurai in game???

[Kisama]

Could be both, could be neither. 100% depends on who is writing it and whether they present it as historically accurate (which Ubisoft did no matter how much they try to sweep it under the rug).
If the "historical expert" you employs first book was "Tales of Idolized Boys: Male-Male Love in Medieval Japanese Narratives", it's probably woke, though.

[Erenford]

As samurais are considered like nobility class there would be female samurais. It would be the wife and the daughters in the clan, and they would train in martial art and all other samurai duties like proper etiquette, etc. everything a samurai would be required to know.

But they would be relegated to clan family duties rather than front line soldiers. The most combat they'll see is if their clan land and home is actually invaded, by then they would be forced to fight.
But not marching along with the main army. Thats woke or DEI.

Good example is the female samurai in Ghost of Tsushima, she's the last of her clan and so she has no choice but fight with Jin. Notice she also didn't join the main army and defended her clan's home as a Onna Bugeisha (Female Samurai).
This is a great example for a female samurai story and isn't treated as woke despite her eventual "lesbian" (actually "bi") leanings towards her story. People didn't consider it woke because she still honors loves her husband and family. It simply made her a complex character wanting to save a past loved one.
It'll be woke if she scoffs off Jin then solves her problem by herself displaying girlboss attitude. She didn't.


There is one female samurai though, Tomoe Gozen, who actually became a commander and led soldiers to war. Though her existence is dodgy due to appearing only from an epic tale instead of the primary records. This is way way before Sengoku era also, she lived in the Genpei War era 300 years before the current setting so things might've different standards in that time.


Bottom line: It's very rare to see one as a primary hero character and usually they wouldn't be in the front lines or doing common soldier duties unless they were forced from extreme circumstances.

[brisket]

Originally posted by holdem:

Is it woke or dei, both or neither?
Your thoughts?

they're shinobi
lol

[brisket]

Originally posted by PSA:

Originally posted by holdem:

but the why make them samurai in game???

How are they called samurai in-game? Wearing armor does not a samurai make.

does not make a samurai*

[❀ Hikari ❀]

Originally posted by Justin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha

Let history decide if it's DEI or woke.

BRUH LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAMURAI AND BUSHI U FOOL

[Kisama]

Originally posted by holdem:

Originally posted by PSA:

Although they weren't samurai, there were female bushi during that time.

but the why make them samurai in game???

To be fair, there's also no history of women being Ninja who engaged in any actual combat but Ubisoft didn't say that part was accurate so I don't see the issue.

[Justin]

Originally posted by ❀ Hikari ❀:

Originally posted by Justin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha

Let history decide if it's DEI or woke.

BRUH LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAMURAI AND BUSHI U FOOL

I know the difference. The average person doesn't. Typically, when people think "samurai," they think of the warriors. The truth is, there can be samurai who aren't warriors. There can be warriors who are not samurai.

The lack of clarity there is why people get misplaced anger over fictional characters,

[admiral1018]

Originally posted by OyajiBR☕:

They existed and were actually admired for doing it despite their disadvantages compared to men, but they were also rare. I'm not an expert in Japanese culture, but I studied the language until some point and a bit of the story years ago. Don't be surprised if you see gay samurai too, there was frequent (and very discrete) sexual relationship between some masters and disciples.

Is there any historical evidence that the real Yasuke was gay or bisexual?

[brisket]

Originally posted by admiral1018:

Originally posted by OyajiBR☕:

They existed and were actually admired for doing it despite their disadvantages compared to men, but they were also rare. I'm not an expert in Japanese culture, but I studied the language until some point and a bit of the story years ago. Don't be surprised if you see gay samurai too, there was frequent (and very discrete) sexual relationship between some masters and disciples.

Is there any historical evidence that the real Yasuke was gay or bisexual?

you do realize you dont have to romance anyone right