I Don't Understand, Why Is This Game Controversial?

[Grimdaddy]

Can someone explain to me why this game is so controversial? It seems a bit unfair and biased, but maybe I am wrong. Can someone make this make sense?

[justdrop]

Yes, the person who came to a discussion board for a game they have no interest in, to spread lies about it, who gets combative with people for pointing it out, is the victim. You're batting a thousand.

[masii07]

Originally posted by Verdeth:

in a nutshell :
a game studio makes a game featuring japan, but injects bunch of chinese architecture, messes up seasons, forces an ex-slave to be a samurai, at the start of the game the lord dies, yet he is still a samurai and not a ronin, a female character has an ability called rikishi (professional sumo title), females officially are stricktly forbiddin in sumo, creates press only gifts with chinese symbols, creates merchandise representing a monument with its history of getting nuked in ww2.

all that was shipped out while they had presumably "japanese historians"/ a dei firm greenlighting it.

A series

-with Pope good at hand to hand combat
- women participating in Olympics in Ancient Greece when it wasn't allowed
-Da Vinci making aeroplanes
-white dude who looks like super model in Carribean being a pirate

to name a few.

Creed has never been 100% accurate

[gouineblade]

Because there's a basketball player as a samurai. But nonetheless it's a ubisoft game

[Verdeth]

Originally posted by justdrop:

Yes, the person who came to a discussion board for a game they have no interest in, to spread lies about it, who gets combative with people for pointing it out, is the victim. You're batting a thousand.

for you to claim that my statements are lies, you need to post the truth. facts or sources. yet all you do is yap. like a broken record. this reminds me, you have yet to tell me who hurt you. why are you so angsty, insecure, vehement protecting that company, why did you not enjoy valhalla as much as prior games ? are you perhaps scared that shadows is worse than valhalla ?

[Verdeth]

Originally posted by masii07:

Originally posted by Verdeth:

in a nutshell :
a game studio makes a game featuring japan, but injects bunch of chinese architecture, messes up seasons, forces an ex-slave to be a samurai, at the start of the game the lord dies, yet he is still a samurai and not a ronin, a female character has an ability called rikishi (professional sumo title), females officially are stricktly forbiddin in sumo, creates press only gifts with chinese symbols, creates merchandise representing a monument with its history of getting nuked in ww2.

all that was shipped out while they had presumably "japanese historians"/ a dei firm greenlighting it.

A series

-with Pope good at hand to hand combat
- women participating in Olympics in Ancient Greece when it wasn't allowed
-Da Vinci making aeroplanes
-white dude who looks like super model in Carribean being a pirate

to name a few.

Creed has never been 100% accurate

i never claimed that it was historically accurate, i mearly stated the controversy, what people do with the information is for themself to decicde

[justdrop]

Your claims have been debunked multiple days, weeks, a month in a row. I'm not obligated to do so with so little time left for release; it's easier just to point out the truth in that you're emotional about it and are acting in bad faith.

[Iwantacookie]

Because Ubisoft. Its cool to hate them, so anything they do is met with a critical lens that no other game company gets. Maybe EA? Combine that with the usual anti-woke crowd and you got a pile of degens frothing at the mouth ready to complain about any minor detail.

I pretty much guarantee those who complain about "historical inaccuracies" in their samurai game had no issues with Ghost of Tsushima.

As always, just wait for reviews. Reviewers I recommend are Skill Up, Mortismal Gaming, and ACG. They each have very different tastes, so you get the full package of info.

[Stallion]

Originally posted by Iwantacookie:

Because Ubisoft. Its cool to hate them, so anything they do is met with a critical lens that no other game company gets. Maybe EA? Combine that with the usual anti-woke crowd and you got a pile of degens frothing at the mouth ready to complain about any minor detail.

I pretty much guarantee those who complain about "historical inaccuracies" in their samurai game had no issues with Ghost of Tsushima.

"Just consoom product. Then get excited for new product."

[Iwantacookie]

Originally posted by Stallion:

"Just consoom product. Then get excited for new product."

If you can't read, just say so.

[Stallion]

Originally posted by Iwantacookie:

Originally posted by Stallion:

"Just consoom product. Then get excited for new product."

If you can't read, just say so.

"Just consoom product."

[goldenvoidknight]

Originally posted by Sins of History:

Originally posted by DABESTBIRB™:

this game is controversial because it is believed to be ripping off an up and coming indie gem known as "yasuke simulator." they both feature the fictional character known as yasuke, the nation of japan, and even come out on the exact same date! many supporters of yasuke simulator are boycotting this game because they want to support the epic devs behind it, while also spreading awareness about what ubisoft is doing, so that they dont try and pull something like this again.

yasuke is not fictional.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke

the only one trying to pull something ,is you.

and you have failed

Ok you cherry picked the MOST trolly comment on the thread and called it out as them "trying to pull something"... No they are trying to get a rise out of people like you! And you are bending over backwards to give them exactly what they wanted.

Now address something that is actual commentary.

[[Redacted]]

It's a dubious claim to suggest Yasuke was a samurai and historical evidence seems to point to him being a retainer or a servant.

[Empukris]

Originally posted by Grimdaddy:

Can someone explain to me why this game is so controversial? It seems a bit unfair and biased, but maybe I am wrong. Can someone make this make sense?

Too many to count. It took tons of effort to be able to really pissed of Japanese and this game manage to do exactly that.

[ChainsawCommando]

Ubisoft may not have gotten the culture completely right but at the same time, Yasuke's story if not adapted would have been used as the plot for Nioh 3. If Ubisoft didn't tell THIS story, you'd be looking at Koei Tecmo doing the same thing.

Yasuke being a samurai vs a VERY decorated ashigaru is more of a matter of semantics since he was Nobunaga's retainer. He also informed others of Nobunaga's death instead of committing seppuku which means that he did become a ronin and a ronin was expected to avenge their master's death.

Considering that Toyotomi Hideyoshi was considered to be a despot and one of history's greatest monsters for any number of reasons, avenging Nobunaga and getting rid of Hideyoshi is a perfect AC plot. It's like the British during the American Revolution or Max Robbespierre during the French Revolution where the bad guy is somebody widely condemned by historians as a butcher. (And was the bad guy in Nioh 2.)

And AC is doing an Asian male protagonist in a game set in China. It's called Assassin's Creed Jade. So the backlash is overbown but at the same time, Ubisoft did actually get some things related to Japan wrong.

[RakataEpsilon]

Jade will be a mobile game. Not sure if thats relevant to a steam discussion.