What really is Denuvo Anti-tamper?

[Bartzabel]

Why is it even needed in single player games?

[dulany67]

It's simply a method to stop (delay) piracy. Denuvo anti cheat is a separate system used in some MP games.

[Grubbs008]

Because it protects the game from being downloaded illegally (most of the time) at the cost of performance issues for the buyer on PC (almost all the time) could be 2 fps, could be 10 or more or crashes, depends on the system.

It also locks you into online mode as you always need an internet connection for it to work.

The devs don't care, as they would rather know their product isn't being ripped off, then to care about their legitimate buyers. So it has ups and downs.

[SharpenedRazors]

Because piracy is bad. simple as.

[B-Runner]

Originally posted by tpowl1400:

DRM / Denuvo is essentially anti-piracy software that game developers integrate into any game's executable file.

constantly reads your ssd --> slows down your pc. Denuvo is what differentiates having a game purchased from places like Steam / Epic Games from GOG in that former two requires you to be all the time internet connected while the latter doesn't. Goes into this entire argument of having the sense of ownership of software as a result.

But you really don't own a software by another company no matter how you purchase the game from where. But yeah DRM or Denuvo's biggest problem is having to read your game constantly throughout your entire playthrough which does affect your gameplay performance.

these fairytales get a bit old, don't they? as if the performance "hit" would even be measurable. if your pc really is beeing slowed down by Denuvo, then there's something wrong with it. the only thing that's true is probably the "need to be online" part.

[justdrop]

So some myth and some truth. Denuvo does two questionable things, inflates file size unnecessarily and *may* increase load times. It does not slow down games. If there are games that have experienced slowdown, it was because of conflicts in implementation between developer and protection.

You shouldn't be experiencing slowdown during gameplay, only when it's doing the online checks which is when it's loading. Piracy doesn't stop it, Denuvo still exists in the pirated version. The only thing cracked versions do is prevent the online check portion from happening.

[justdrop]

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/09/ars-analysis-denuvo-drm-doesnt-slow-down-batman-arkham-knight/ Unless you can find a reputable source that shows their work, I'm going to stick with it being an issue in implementation.

[bRKN]

anti-tamper software, aka devs/publishers pay for a certain amount of time for it to be in a game. it prevents or delays piracy at a cost of your game running poorly.

[L E G U L U M]

Originally posted by Bartzabel:

Why is it even needed in single player games?

It's not needed. You're paying for useless bloatware bundled with your legitimate purchases. It adds nothing of value for the consumer, and makes the alternative to purchase seem that much more appealing.

Ubisoft has historically been the worst offender when it comes to intrusive, anti-consumer DRM that is prone to bricking their single-player games once some server goes down somewhere. There might be worse games, monetisation, companies, but just in terms of self-destructive software piracy countermeasures they're the best at being the worst.

[G4M5T3R]

Originally posted by B-Runner:

these fairytales get a bit old, don't they? as if the performance "hit" would even be measurable. if your pc really is beeing slowed down by Denuvo, then there's something wrong with it. the only thing that's true is probably the "need to be online" part.

The empirical data speaks for itself. Ignorance isn't an excuse in the eyes of the law, I feel the same applies everywhere.

[🪻🧋Sylvie💮🍃]

It was put in there to prevent piracy.

[justdrop]

Originally posted by G4M5T3R:

Originally posted by B-Runner:

these fairytales get a bit old, don't they? as if the performance "hit" would even be measurable. if your pc really is beeing slowed down by Denuvo, then there's something wrong with it. the only thing that's true is probably the "need to be online" part.

The empirical data speaks for itself. Ignorance isn't an excuse in the eyes of the law, I feel the same applies everywhere.

Post your empirical data.

[justdrop]

Guy who literally cannot show his work making comments about me.

[B-Runner]

Originally posted by tpowl1400:

no wonder I blocked that guy who asks you to post empirical data, he's soooooo annoying.

i too would like to see actual facts about the fairytale of "Denuvo makes games running poorly". I know it's uncommon these days to back up an opinion with facts. and I'm aware that in the days of social media "information" is spread so wideley that it's hard to resist to believe something you heard 1000 times.

but no reason to argue about this. I keep on playing games with or without Denuvo as i really don't care and none of the hundred games i played on steam have ever had any performance issues with it.

[B-Runner]

Originally posted by justdrop:

Guy who literally cannot show his work making comments about me.

let's move on. nothing to gain from such discussions. and thanks for your link to actually proove they are wrong.

[Duchess Pebblina]

Originally posted by B-Runner:

Originally posted by tpowl1400:

DRM / Denuvo is essentially anti-piracy software that game developers integrate into any game's executable file.

constantly reads your ssd --> slows down your pc. Denuvo is what differentiates having a game purchased from places like Steam / Epic Games from GOG in that former two requires you to be all the time internet connected while the latter doesn't. Goes into this entire argument of having the sense of ownership of software as a result.

But you really don't own a software by another company no matter how you purchase the game from where. But yeah DRM or Denuvo's biggest problem is having to read your game constantly throughout your entire playthrough which does affect your gameplay performance.

these fairytales get a bit old, don't they? as if the performance "hit" would even be measurable. if your pc really is beeing slowed down by Denuvo, then there's something wrong with it. the only thing that's true is probably the "need to be online" part.

It depends on the game.
Denuvo can do checks when you open a certain menu or pause the game. Some games are more annoying with denuvo and does it when you use an attack or use a specific item.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWjSCLDM0Ok

Regardless everyone should be extremely vocal about being anti- denuvo based on the fact that it makes every game require the internet. That is stepping way over the line.
Everyone knows it because microsoft tried to do the same thing with the xbox one and everyone went ballistic when there was news that the xbox required an internet connection to play any game even when the CEO said the xbox just had to check in periodically.

These companies can sneak this in now by putting it in steam games as DRM where most customers don't realize it's there.