Is Yaske an imaginary friend?

[T-800]

he suddenly appears in cutscenes just out of nowhere and disappears after the same way. does this character just not fit into the story,
a slave who speaks at least three languages? seriously? it's just a cringe and such an absurdity.
And Naoe accepts him after he killed her neighbors and the headman, if her father had been there, he would have killed him too. and after that, she talks sweetly to him, God, this is so absurd! the one who put this character in the game, I hope he will never find a job.

[SkyUni]

Racists still crying about Yasuke.

[T-800]

Originally posted by SkyUni:

Racists still crying about Yasuke.

It's not about his skin color, but about that ubisoft completely failed the integration of the second protagonist.

[SkyUni]

Originally posted by T-800:

Originally posted by SkyUni:

Racists still crying about Yasuke.

It's not about his skin color, but about that ubisoft completely failed the integration of the second protagonist.

Suuuuuure.

[dashavingo]

Since I read this my my voice has gone up 4 octaves......

[dashavingo]

seriously, you can switch between the male and female character? BADASS!!!!.

[Shin Happens]

Originally posted by SkyUni:

Originally posted by T-800:

It's not about his skin color, but about that ubisoft completely failed the integration of the second protagonist.

Suuuuuure.

People like you make ANY normal discussion about apparent and evident gameplay shortcomings almost impossible. Not everything is about race, you know...

The way the dual protagonist is handled in Shadows is just bad. This has literally nothing do with race.

Why is the character switch so unimmersive?
Why are you literally forced to play as another character after Syndicate, which did the same stupid thing, when Odyssey and Valhalla had found the ideal solution to the dual protagonist issue a long time ago? Few people like it when a game forces something on them.
Why is neither Yasuke nor Naoe an ally when you play as the other? Why does neither of them help you in combat when you play as the other one?
Why is Yasuke basically useless in free roam / exploration because he lacks fundamental traversal skills?
Why can't you switch between characters in castles when you want to get that one silly collectable Naoe, for some arbitrary bs reason, can't reach, because it's Yasuke exclusive only?
Why then do you more often than not trigger a season change when you leave said castle as Naoe, to swap to Yasuke so he can get that silly collectible, and said season change resets the castle so all enemies are back again? Wasting your time in the process?

And so on and so on. The dual protagnist is handled horribly here and since Yasuke is by far the much more useless character in an ASSASSIN'S CREED game (due to lack of fundamental assassin and parcours skills) he is of course the first character that requires fixing. Naoe can become perfectly competent in melee and kill everyone in open combat easily with the right skills etc. Yet Yasuke is as useless in free roam in hour 10 as he is in hour 100, literally zero progress for him.

This has nothing to do with "race", this is all about stupid gameplay and game design decisions.

The worst thing is and always will be forced character switches. Of course they did that or else rarely anyone would ever play as Yasuke. And why would they. People play Assassin's Creed games to be an ASSASSIN. Not a massive brawler who can't even perform a leap of faith and who snaps ropes when he tries to walk on them.

Trying to gaslight people by saying "rrrrrrracism" is not helping AT ALL.

[Wanderer]

Originally posted by Shin Happens:

Originally posted by SkyUni:

Suuuuuure.

People like you make ANY normal discussion about apparent and evident gameplay shortcomings almost impossible. Not everything is about race, you know...

The way the dual protagonist is handled in Shadows is just bad. This has literally nothing do with race.

Why is the character switch so unimmersive?
Why are you literally forced to play as another character after Syndicate, which did the same stupid thing, when Odyssey and Valhalla had found the ideal solution to the dual protagonist issue a long time ago? Few people like it when a game forces something on them.
Why is neither Yasuke nor Naoe an ally when you play as the other? Why does neither of them help you in combat when you play as the other one?
Why is Yasuke basically useless in free roam / exploration because he lacks fundamental traversal skills?
Why can't you switch between characters in castles when you want to get that one silly collectable Naoe, for some arbitrary bs reason, can't reach, because it's Yasuke exclusive only?
Why then do you more often than not trigger a season change when you leave said castle as Naoe, to swap to Yasuke so he can get that silly collectible, and said season change resets the castle so all enemies are back again? Wasting your time in the process?

And so on and so on. The dual protagnist is handled horribly here and since Yasuke is by far the much more useless character in an ASSASSIN'S CREED game (due to lack of fundamental assassin and parcours skills) he is of course the first character that requires fixing. Naoe can become perfectly competent in melee and kill everyone in open combat easily with the right skills etc. Yet Yasuke is as useless in free roam in hour 10 as he is in hour 100, literally zero progress for him.

This has nothing to do with "race", this is all about stupid gameplay and game design decisions.

The worst thing is and always will be forced character switches. Of course they did that or else rarely anyone would ever play as Yasuke. And why would they. People play Assassin's Creed games to be an ASSASSIN. Not a massive brawler who can't even perform a leap of faith and who snaps ropes when he tries to walk on them.

Trying to gaslight people by saying "rrrrrrracism" is not helping AT ALL.

All of that to say: Because the devs wanted it to be that way, no further info is needed. There is no grand conspiracy

[Kand]

Thomas Lockley's imaginary friend.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Kand:

Thomas Lockley's imaginary friend.

Nobody claims any of the Robin Hood movies, books or so forth, to be fully historical... The movie you refer to is not realistic either, but it is plausible within its own setting (I mean.. you have a witch as well.........)

If that movie had been a modern one, then the Moor would have been a Malian and little John would have been Little Joanna........ The thing is... having a Moor escape with Robin Hood in the movies scenario is well within the settings plausibility.. If it was a Malian ie. it would not be... its all about belieability.. its not about whatever colour, sex or height a character have...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZTgX4UrVdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwyV_mntOHg


You can be certain, that Prince of Thieves would have been considered "woke" today if it released... but that is because people have skewed the meanings of the term... people complaining about woke and anti woke, are people on opposite sites of the same coin... they don´t fully understand what people dislike....... What people dislike is inorganic injections, that does not feel belieable in the setting.

It is important to note, that I don´t think Yasuke is an issue in this game, it is fiction after all. But the developers handling have made him seem inorganic to many (while he is not)

[Darren Evans]

Originally posted by T-800:

he suddenly appears in cutscenes just out of nowhere and disappears after the same way. does this character just not fit into the story,
a slave who speaks at least three languages? seriously? it's just a cringe and such an absurdity.
And Naoe accepts him after he killed her neighbors and the headman, if her father had been there, he would have killed him too. and after that, she talks sweetly to him, God, this is so absurd! the one who put this character in the game, I hope he will never find a job.

The whole premise of having two characters you switch in and out of is poor. It's one reason I did not like Last of Us 2. However, I admit that's subjective personal taste.

I do find it odd that the devs just kept them so artificially separate. There could have been some cool moments where a mission had them both working together with one you choose to control and the other under AI control.

[CzUSMC]

I like how Ubisoft included the historical accuracy of Yasuke falling in love with a man and a non binary man in AC Shadows. Also what are the chances both Yasuke and Naoe were both Lgbt and they both saved Japan. Yasuke and Naoe were Legendary lgbt samurai warriors, this is goty 2025.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by CzUSMC:

I like how Ubisoft included the historical accuracy of Yasuke falling in love with a man and a non binary man in AC Shadows. Also what are the chances both Yasuke and Naoe were both Lgbt and they both saved Japan. Yasuke and Naoe were Legendary lgbt samurai warriors.

Ubisoft never claimed this was a historical game. When you boot up the game, it will tell you that its fiction, with inspiration from history.

[CzUSMC]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by CzUSMC:

I like how Ubisoft included the historical accuracy of Yasuke falling in love with a man and a non binary man in AC Shadows. Also what are the chances both Yasuke and Naoe were both Lgbt and they both saved Japan. Yasuke and Naoe were Legendary lgbt samurai warriors.

Ubisoft never claimed this was a historical game. When you boot up the game, it will tell you that its fiction, with inspiration from history.

In the book about Yasuke it is mentioned he was actually gay in real life.
so yes it is actually historically accurate.
"Not all the allegations are baseless, as some of what Lockley has done with his source material in African Samurai is definitely questionable in a book aimed at non-specialist readers. African Samurai is best viewed as unacknowledged historical fiction, even though it claims to be a “true story” and Lockley frames it as a work of rigorous primary source research. When I say “historical fiction” I’m not talking about sections where Lockley is indulging in speculation, such as when he suggests that Yasuke and his lord Nobunaga might have had a sexual encounter."

"but it’s not totally implausible given what we know about Nobunaga and Japanese warrior sexuality in general, and Lockley does clearly signal that he is speculating in the section in question (“may well have” “If it occurred,” etc)."

With the homosexuality going on between Samurai back then it actually makes sense on why Oda took in Yasuke as fast as he did. And how Yasuke was always with him in the tent together "Helping oda".

[ShepardIRL]

Yasuke was real though, and he was (maybe) from Mozambique , thats 2 languages there. and if he was enslaved by the portuguese, well thats 3.

[ZemX]

Originally posted by Darren Evans:

I do find it odd that the devs just kept them so artificially separate. There could have been some cool moments where a mission had them both working together with one you choose to control and the other under AI control.

They did this sort of in a few places where each has a different mission and you play each in turn doing that part of the mission, but it doesn't happen a whole lot. But yeah, not together.

I am not sure I'd want them together. I've thought about it but, I am really not a fan of AI companions screwing things up. That would be ridiculously difficult to do a stealth mission with a dumb AI following you around in full armor. It'd work a lot better with Yasuke's "I am Yasuke! Fight me!" approach though.