Any mod out yet that makes Yasuke Asian?

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I think that would fit the setting better so maybe someone made one yet 😀

[DarkRighteousFistOfLords]

PS I'm sure black people are hyped that a historical black character can now be gay. I'm sure that was organic too. Weird how all your little ideologies randomly show up in the same art, but all of it is organic game decisions that have nothing to do with your ideology.

You know, you'd think you virtue signallers would be respectful enough not to make up sexual choices for a REAL PERSON that is long dead. That's creepy behavior.

It takes the lowest effort of Google-fu'ing to find out that many Samurai were openly gay, and they didn't pitch a fit about it. This is a modern day hang up.

[Nyx]

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People are mad at Ghost of Yōtei because woman. But keep telling yourself the tale that you wouldn't be mad at every serious game with a Yasuke protagonist, maybe you will believe that yourself someday.

I'm not telling myself anything. You can't even stay on topic because you know your points are nonsense. Ghost of Yotei hasn't even come out yet, and will probably be massively successful when it does (unless, again, it's blatant and hamfisted corporate ideology instead of organic).

Keep virtue signalling to yourself and the rest of us about corporate ideology. They sure did turn you into a compliant little sheep.

PS I'm sure black people are hyped that a historical black character can now be gay. I'm sure that was organic too. Weird how all your little ideologies randomly show up in the same art, but all of it is organic game decisions that have nothing to do with your ideology.

You know, you'd think you virtue signallers would be respectful enough not to make up sexual choices for a REAL PERSON that is long dead. That's creepy behavior.

Ah yes, and now you're also mad that players can choose their romance options IN A RPG... Because gay. But yeah, sure you don't think Yōtei is pathetic ideology because woman like the other people like you do. Any and every serious game with Yasuke as a protagonist would be called woke by the likes of you, end of story. Literally the second someone decides to make a game about Yasuke you will complain about, say it's all that ideology from woke devs. You can be gay in a game? Arrrrgh, ideology! Woke devs!
It's not virtue signaling to call you guys out on your bs.

[Lucifer Verone]

Автор сообщения: DarkRighteousFistOfLords

PS I'm sure black people are hyped that a historical black character can now be gay. I'm sure that was organic too. Weird how all your little ideologies randomly show up in the same art, but all of it is organic game decisions that have nothing to do with your ideology.

You know, you'd think you virtue signallers would be respectful enough not to make up sexual choices for a REAL PERSON that is long dead. That's creepy behavior.

It takes the lowest effort of Google-fu'ing to find out that many Samurai were openly gay, and they didn't pitch a fit about it. This is a modern day hang up.

Again, Samurai were....Yasuke wasnt a samurai who was raised in japan. He was a foreigner who was a retainer for 15 months before Oda died. Dont think he was Gay exactly.

[DarkRighteousFistOfLords]

But we know his history. He was a retainer. Not a samurai.

Japanese culture has always introduced him to the world as a Samurai. The idea that he was a Samurai didn't originate in the West, or with Ubisoft, or with Thomas Lockley.

The Japanese people made contact with Western civilization a long time ago, and said, "Oh yeah, we had a Black guy too, and he was a Samurai."

And they wrote books, and drew pictures, and made entire television productions featuring him that way, of their own accord and according to their own history.

So, if you want to argue that point, and call them all liars across decades of their own media and literature, you go right ahead if you think you know better.

But after that, everything else is speculation, and fair game for creative license.

[Kisama]

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Well, his skin color is a known quantity, whereas his history isn't. Therefore one can be fairly fictionalized while the other one can't. We know he was Black. That much is a fact. It's the rest that's up to speculation, and what is Assassin's Creed if not an exercise in creative license?

But we know his history. He was a retainer. Not a samurai.

A retainer just means that he was paid by the emperor to work for him. Doesn't mean he was or wasn't a samurai. We still don't really know much of anything about his intended purpose.

Something tells me if the Emperor got his hands on a gigantic ash black man, which would have been extremely rare at the time in Japan, he wouldn't make him a police officer

Hilariously, he probably would have been of higher worth to the emperor than the game is giving him, by rarity alone, IMO. I'd have put him in some samurai gear, but only because it would be the equivalent of having Ngannou as your personal bodyguard. He'd be way too useful to use in all but in the most dire of combat, to me, being irreplaceable to some degree.

[Lucifer Verone]

Автор сообщения: Kisama

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But we know his history. He was a retainer. Not a samurai.

A retainer just means that he was paid by the emperor to work for him. Doesn't mean he was or wasn't a samurai. We still don't really know much of anything about his intended purpose.

Something tells me if the Emperor got his hands on a gigantic ash black man, which would have been extremely rare at the time in Japan, he wouldn't make him a police officer :zaglol:

Hilariously, he probably would have been of higher worth to the emperor than the game is giving him, by rarity alone, IMO.

No it means exactly that. All Samurai were retainers but not all retainers were samurai. This is the point of continence. Historians are still trying to find definitive proof of him being a samurai. But until then he is a retainer saying "Doesn't mean he was or wasn't a samurai." doesnt apply here.

"Hilariously, he probably would have been of higher worth to the emperor than the game is giving him, by rarity alone, IMO." He really wasnt... He was brought in as a slave and Oda took a fascination towards him, he was given the bare minimum of what a retainer has but for all intents and purposes he wasnt someone as important as the game makes him out to be.

[Kisama]

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PS I'm sure black people are hyped that a historical black character can now be gay. I'm sure that was organic too. Weird how all your little ideologies randomly show up in the same art, but all of it is organic game decisions that have nothing to do with your ideology.

You know, you'd think you virtue signallers would be respectful enough not to make up sexual choices for a REAL PERSON that is long dead. That's creepy behavior.

It takes the lowest effort of Google-fu'ing to find out that many Samurai were openly gay, and they didn't pitch a fit about it. This is a modern day hang up.

Which makes turning a guy you have no idea about who is long dead gay cool ? Very strange. I can't converse with y'all anymore. Your logic is non existent. Your respect for the dead, definitely non existent. Someone with any respect at all wouldn't sexualize the samurai action game that you retconned a real human for.

[Nyx]

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It takes the lowest effort of Google-fu'ing to find out that many Samurai were openly gay, and they didn't pitch a fit about it. This is a modern day hang up.

which makes turning a guy you have no idea about who is long dead gay cool ? Very strange.

What if he was gay? Do you think he would like to be turned straight?

[Kisama]

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which makes turning a guy you have no idea about who is long dead gay cool ? Very strange.

What if he was gay? Do you think he would like to be turned straight?

Again, anybody who had ANY respect for a real dead person that we have basically no information on in an Action Samurai game wouldn't sexualize them at all. Your reply shows exactly who you are though.

[DarkRighteousFistOfLords]

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It takes the lowest effort of Google-fu'ing to find out that many Samurai were openly gay, and they didn't pitch a fit about it. This is a modern day hang up.

Which makes turning a guy you have no idea about who is long dead gay cool ? Very strange. I can't converse with y'all anymore. Your logic is non existent. Your respect for the dead, definitely non existent. Someone with any respect at all wouldn't sexualize the samurai action game that you retconned a real human for.

Who said it was "cool"? It's just Player agency, man. Options.

You can customize everything in this game, from your hide out, to your armor and weapons, to what animals you want roaming around your base, down to the trees and decorations hanging on the walls. But you draw the line at who's dateable? It's a CHOICE. Think of it as one more customization.

Whether or not Yasuke is gay or straight is completely dependent on individual Player choice. Personally my Yasuke is going to date women because that's also my preference, but I wouldn't knock the controller out of the hands of anyone that makes him date a man. I'm playing my copy of the game and they can play theirs. You play your's, and everyone should be happy about that.

[Nyx]

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What if he was gay? Do you think he would like to be turned straight?

Again, anybody who had ANY respect for a real dead person that we have basically no information on in an Action Samurai game wouldn't sexualize them at all. Your reply shows exactly who you are though.

So Ubi should take out all the romance options for Yasuke and let only Naoe romance other characters? I'm ok with that.

[Nyx]

Also in respect to all of the victims of Black Beard, Ubisoft shouldn't have made him a damn hero in Black Flag, but here we are.

[Lucifer Verone]

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Also in respect to all of the victims of Black Beard, Ubisoft shouldn't have made him a damn hero in Black Flag, but here we are.

They were pirates....Dont think anyone thought of them as heroes. Like what?

[Nyx]

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Also in respect to all of the victims of Black Beard, Ubisoft shouldn't have made him a damn hero in Black Flag, but here we are.

They were pirates....Dont think anyone thought of them as heroes. Like what?

Blackbeard's whole story was about him wanting to help some town that was under British rule, there is even a part of the game where he attacks British warships to secure medicine to give to the poor ill people of the town. Right before his death he shouts the game's most iconic line at the player: "in a world without gold, we might have been heroes".
Sure sounds like he already was.

[Lucifer Verone]

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They were pirates....Dont think anyone thought of them as heroes. Like what?

Blackbeard's whole story was about him wanting to help some town that was under British rule, there is even a part of the game where he attacks British warships to secure medicine to give to the poor ill people of the town. Right before his death he shouts the game's most iconic line at the player: "in a world without gold, we might have been heroes".
Sure sounds like he already was.

He was a pirate.....They literally fought against the British navy. Literally still a pirate, and that town was a pirate town which was Nassau. He attacked the British Colony at Charles-Towne to procure medicine for Nassau. He even took hostages. So sure a hero but a hero to pirates not portrayed as a hero for the common people.