64k peak

[donut32]

this rocket blew up on the launch pad. what was ubisoft thinking?

hope anno romans isnt cancelled

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Where did they say that? And significant doesn't mean the only. 1/3 of sales is still significant.

How do you not understand this if we go out and say 2/3rds aren't on steam do you know what that means that would point out the majority of sales aren't even full priced sales there subs meaning you need 4-5subs to equal one sale of the game.

They need roughly 7mill full price sales just to break even and there talking 2mill players not sales, a certain game named Vielguard also did this exact same thing they had millions of players but not once mentioned the copys sold and they had a sub fee that was cheaper a bigger launch on steam and if I remember that game didn't do to well.

Just think about it if most PC players aren't on steam that means they went with the cheaper option meaning Ubisoft got significantly less money on the game at launch.

You do realize that Ubisoft doesn't have to pay Valve the 30% per sale for games bought outaide Steam. Also stop pretending as if consoles don't exist.

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Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

How do you not understand this if we go out and say 2/3rds aren't on steam do you know what that means that would point out the majority of sales aren't even full priced sales there subs meaning you need 4-5subs to equal one sale of the game.

They need roughly 7mill full price sales just to break even and there talking 2mill players not sales, a certain game named Vielguard also did this exact same thing they had millions of players but not once mentioned the copys sold and they had a sub fee that was cheaper a bigger launch on steam and if I remember that game didn't do to well.

Just think about it if most PC players aren't on steam that means they went with the cheaper option meaning Ubisoft got significantly less money on the game at launch.

You do realize that Ubisoft doesn't have to pay Valve the 30% per sale for games bought outaide Steam.

They have to pay Xbox & Playstation 30% as well dude and last I heard and seen Ubisofts launcher did so bad they abandoned the idea of making there game's exclusives and went back to steam for day one launches again they straight up admitted the subs and sales on the launcher were abysmal over the years and only grew smaller, there's a reason why almost every single big 3rd party private launcher for Studios all started to move over to steam once again.

People seem to not like multiple 3rd party launchers that much.

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

You do realize that Ubisoft doesn't have to pay Valve the 30% per sale for games bought outaide Steam.

They have to pay Xbox & Playstation 30% as well dude and last I heard and seen Ubisofts launcher did so bad they abandoned the idea of making there game's exclusives and went back to steam for day one launches again they straight up admitted the subs and sales on the launcher were abysmal over the years and only grew smaller, there's a reason why almost every single big 3rd party private launcher for Studios all started to move over to steam once again.

So what, every publisher does. We are talking about PC here seeing as you are relying on Steam and only Steam to give yourself the impression that your hate campaign actually won. It didn't.

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Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

They have to pay Xbox & Playstation 30% as well dude and last I heard and seen Ubisofts launcher did so bad they abandoned the idea of making there game's exclusives and went back to steam for day one launches again they straight up admitted the subs and sales on the launcher were abysmal over the years and only grew smaller, there's a reason why almost every single big 3rd party private launcher for Studios all started to move over to steam once again.

So what, every publisher does. We are talking about PC here.

So tell me how many players subs does it take to equal a single steam sale well I'll tell you it takes between 4-5 subs to make one steam sale so if 2/3rds are subs then that's means the PC side made a whole lot less money and that means they more money from the 1/3rd of people on steam.

This is why people keep pointing out the talk of million of players is a red flag when they don't talk about copys sold.

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

So what, every publisher does. We are talking about PC here.

So tell me how many players subs does it take to equal a single steam sale well I'll tell you it takes between 4-5 subs to make one steam sale so if 2/3rds are subs then that's means the PC side made a whole lot less money and that means they more money from the 1/3rd of people on steam.

What are you talking about, I'm not talking about subscriptions. You can buy the full game outside Steam for much less.

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Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

So tell me how many players subs does it take to equal a single steam sale well I'll tell you it takes between 4-5 subs to make one steam sale so if 2/3rds are subs then that's means the PC side made a whole lot less money and that means they more money from the 1/3rd of people on steam.

What are you talking about, I'm not talking about subscriptions. You can buy the full game outside Steam.

And the majority of people aren't going to buy outside steam if your buying outside steam it's because it was a cheaper option there's a reason why steam holds the majority of total PC game sales.

So if 2/3rds are playing the game off steam then that would point out the majority using the cheaper sub free or got free keys.
Also if you bought the game on Ubisoft it was 20% off so still not much better than steam.

[darksquallleon]

I can't wait for the earnings call, if the stocks don't go up after that call Ubisoft is done for.

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

What are you talking about, I'm not talking about subscriptions. You can buy the full game outside Steam.

And the majority of people aren't going to buy outside steam if your buying outside steam it's because it was a cheaper option there's a reason why steam holds the majority of total PC game sales.

So if 2/3rds are playing the game off steam then that would point out the majority using the cheaper sub free or got free keys.
Also if you bought the game on Ubisoft it was 20% off so still not much better .

Was Odyssey a success on PC? If so why did it only get 62k peak concurrent players. How about Origin with its 43k?

There are multiple ways to buy games on PC with 100s of stores. if a game uses the Steam DRM, they all go to Steam and Valve still get their cut.

So whilst they are 100s of stores they are only 3 major DRMs Steam, Epic and Ubisoft. Most games use the Steam DRM and and are available on Steam and Steam hold a significant market share but not for Ubisoft games.

Ubisoft games don't go to Steam. So unless you know what percentage of purchases go to Steam this talk of Steam stats is absolutely pointless.

You are literally ignoring all of the evidence that points to Shadows being a huge success and focussing on a tiny piece of the picture.

You want to find some type of win in all this, I get it but it's too late. You lost.

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Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

And the majority of people aren't going to buy outside steam if your buying outside steam it's because it was a cheaper option there's a reason why steam holds the majority of total PC game sales.

So if 2/3rds are playing the game off steam then that would point out the majority using the cheaper sub free or got free keys.
Also if you bought the game on Ubisoft it was 20% off so still not much better .

Was Odyssey a success on PC? If so why did it only get 62k peak concurrent players.

There are multiple ways to buy games on PC with 100s of stores. if the game uses the Steam DRM they all go to Steam and Valve still get there cut.

So whilst they are 100s of stores they are only 3 major DRMs Steam, Epic and Ubisoft. Most games use the Steam DRM and and are available on Steam.

Ubisoft games don't go to Steam. So unless you know what percentage of purchases go to Steam this talk of Steam stats is absolutely pointless.

You are literally ignoring all of the evidence that points to Shadows being a huge success and focussing at a tiny piece of the picture.

You want to find some type of win in all this, I get it but it's too late. You lost.

Console gameing was also bigger than PC gameing back then and now PC gameing is also over double the amount of people than what it was back then.

So if Ubisoft says Steam is playing a significant role on PC sales and there's double the amount of potential customers and they can barely sell more copys on steam shouldn't that point out something isn't right.

Look back at Vielgaurd history is repeating it's self they also had million of player hid the copys sold and everyone said it was doing great all the player are just on gamepass and other launchers because it's cheaper there, now look at what happen to that game it had bigger numbers on steam and it was cheaper to sub and buy back then as well at launch on other platforms.

Shadow held #1 best seller on steam for a single day after launch then it started being beaten by indie game's in global top selling on steam days after and Steam is playing a significant role they say make it make sense.

[darksquallleon]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Was Odyssey a success on PC? If so why did it only get 62k peak concurrent players.

There are multiple ways to buy games on PC with 100s of stores. if the game uses the Steam DRM they all go to Steam and Valve still get there cut.

So whilst they are 100s of stores they are only 3 major DRMs Steam, Epic and Ubisoft. Most games use the Steam DRM and and are available on Steam.

Ubisoft games don't go to Steam. So unless you know what percentage of purchases go to Steam this talk of Steam stats is absolutely pointless.

You are literally ignoring all of the evidence that points to Shadows being a huge success and focussing at a tiny piece of the picture.

You want to find some type of win in all this, I get it but it's too late. You lost.

Console gameing was also bigger than PC gameing back then and now PC gameing is also over double the amount of people than what it was back then.

So if Ubisoft says Steam is playing a significant role on PC sales and there's double the amount of potential customers and they can barely sell more copys on steam shouldn't that point out something isn't right.

Look back at Vielgaurd history is repeating it's self they also had million of player hid the copys sold and everyone said it was doing great all the player are just on gamepass and other launchers because it's cheaper there, now look at what happen to that game it had bigger numbers on steam and it was cheaper to sub and buy back then as well at launch on other platforms.

What do you mean what happened to Veilguard i believe it was almost at the right price in playstation plus some time ago since it was free for subscribers, i think they should give you an extra month or two in your subscription for adding that failure to your account but I suppose they are greedy and free is the best they can do lol.

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Was Odyssey a success on PC? If so why did it only get 62k peak concurrent players.

There are multiple ways to buy games on PC with 100s of stores. if the game uses the Steam DRM they all go to Steam and Valve still get there cut.

So whilst they are 100s of stores they are only 3 major DRMs Steam, Epic and Ubisoft. Most games use the Steam DRM and and are available on Steam.

Ubisoft games don't go to Steam. So unless you know what percentage of purchases go to Steam this talk of Steam stats is absolutely pointless.

You are literally ignoring all of the evidence that points to Shadows being a huge success and focussing at a tiny piece of the picture.

You want to find some type of win in all this, I get it but it's too late. You lost.

Console gameing was also bigger than PC gameing back then and now PC gameing is also over double the amount of people than what it was back then.

So if Ubisoft says Steam is playing a significant role on PC sales and there's double the amount of potential customers and they can barely sell more copys on steam shouldn't that point out something isn't right.

Look back at Vielgaurd history is repeating it's self they also had million of player hid the copys sold and everyone said it was doing great all the player are just on gamepass and other launchers because it's cheaper there, now look at what happen to that game it had bigger numbers on steam and it was cheaper to sub and buy back then as well at launch on other platforms.

Shadow held #1 best seller on steam for a single day after steam then it started being beaten by indie game's in global top selling on steam days after and Steam is playing a significant role they say.

Assassin's Creed Shadows is the second biggest launch ever for the series. Let that sink in. Valhalla the biggest launch happened doing the pandemic.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/464259/report-assassins-creed-shadows-had-the-2nd-biggest-launch-in-franchise-history/

Does it seem like people had an issue with it being "woke"? Nope, the majority didn't care. Now move on.

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Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Console gameing was also bigger than PC gameing back then and now PC gameing is also over double the amount of people than what it was back then.

So if Ubisoft says Steam is playing a significant role on PC sales and there's double the amount of potential customers and they can barely sell more copys on steam shouldn't that point out something isn't right.

Look back at Vielgaurd history is repeating it's self they also had million of player hid the copys sold and everyone said it was doing great all the player are just on gamepass and other launchers because it's cheaper there, now look at what happen to that game it had bigger numbers on steam and it was cheaper to sub and buy back then as well at launch on other platforms.

Shadow held #1 best seller on steam for a single day after steam then it started being beaten by indie game's in global top selling on steam days after and Steam is playing a significant role they say.

Assassin's Creed Shadows is the second biggest launch ever for the series. Let that sink in. Odyssey the biggest launch happened doing the pandemic.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/464259/report-assassins-creed-shadows-had-the-2nd-biggest-launch-in-franchise-history/

Does it seem like people had an issue with it being "woke". Nope, the majority didn't care. Now move on.

Why are you trying to make this to be a Woke thing?
I never said anything about that not even once to you.

And yea if it couldn't beat Odyssey with more than double the amount of potential customers then the game would have even bigger problem than it does now, so yea of course it did better it literally has double the amount of potential customers.

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Assassin's Creed Shadows is the second biggest launch ever for the series. Let that sink in. Odyssey the biggest launch happened doing the pandemic.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/464259/report-assassins-creed-shadows-had-the-2nd-biggest-launch-in-franchise-history/

Does it seem like people had an issue with it being "woke". Nope, the majority didn't care. Now move on.

Why are you trying to make this to be a Woke thing?
I never said anything about that not even once to you.

And yea if it couldn't beat Odyssey with more than double the amount of potential customers then the game would have even bigger problem than it does now, so yea of course it did better it literally has double the amount of potential customers.

How is it double has the world's population doubled or something since the end of 2018?

You are in cope mode and you aren't even trying to hide it.

Even with just the Steam numbers the sales estimates are 490k copies sold.

https://gamalytic.com/game/3159330

[NINJA Y2K]

It's a disaster of a launch no matter how the fanboys try and spin it. Even Dragon age the veilguard had a better launch than this, and that was on gamepass day one. So much cope in here

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by NINJA Y2K:

It's a disaster of a launch no matter how the fanboys try and spin it. Even Dragon age the veilguard had a better launch than this, and that was on gamepass day one. So much cope in here :cozybethesda:

Whatever helps you sleep at night.