The irony of the direction Ubisoft chose to take with Shadows.

[DragonBane]

Shadows could have easily been the best selling AC game ever made, if Ubisoft would have used an actual Japanese Samurai instead of going the political agenda route. Now the game is going to flop, and they are going to have to sell of the company, firing most of the staff.

[Winged Wolf]

The samurai being a black person is not the sickness, it's the symptom. Yasuke is the least of this game's problems.

[Last Jackdaw]

Isn't it the best selling AC game?

[DragonBane]

Originally posted by Last Jackdaw:

Isn't it the best selling AC game?

Nope not even close.

[DragonBane]

Originally posted by Winged Wolf:

The samurai being a black person is not the sickness, it's the symptom. Yasuke is the least of this game's problems.

There hasn't been an AC game that hasn't launched with bugs and glitches, everyone expects those by now.

[SparkzMentalz]

Ubisoft crashed and burned a long time ago. The Ezio Trilogy was awesome. Black Flag and Origins were the last decent AC games imo. It's crazy how many western game devs feel they need to go woke with divisive games when all most players want is a fun escape from reality without all the nonsense, political ideologies attached.

[Last Jackdaw]

Originally posted by DragonBane:

Originally posted by Last Jackdaw:

Isn't it the best selling AC game?

Nope not even close.

Since you made the claim, how about backing up what you are saing with some references or links?

How many copies did Valhalla and or Odyssey sell?
What were their concurrent peaks on steam?

These would be a good starting place.

Oh and "Ubisoft is shutting down:" How is the current ownership of Ubisoft structured?
Who are the major share owners and what are the contracts between them.

More good starting points to educate yourself.

Good luck!

[josh777]

Originally posted by Winged Wolf:

The samurai being a black person is not the sickness, it's the symptom. Yasuke is the least of this game's problems.

This game is f***ing amazing. I'm not sure what you are complaining about. Yasuke is based on a historical character, Naoe is a phenomenal character in every respect. The story is terrific. There is enough historical inspiration to scratch that itch for me. I don't at all expect it to be perfectly historically accurate, but heavily inspired by it with twists on actual history. I think it does great in this regard.
The stealth gameplay I think is the best in the series, and I've played every single one of them. So, I'm not sure what your complaints are.

[The Former]

Hear me out here. I agree that Yasuke was a poor choice, but not because he's not Asian. Because he's a historical figure.

Yasuke is a foreigner in a land that's starting to open up to them, and he carries a weapon. Such a figure makes perfect sense for a story about a Brotherhood that knows no borders. However, they'd have been better served creating an original character inspired by Yasuke, free of historical attachment. This is what they did for Naoe, making her the daughter of Fujibayashi Nagato rather than using Nagato himself.

The idea of Yasuke is a ripe seed for AC storytelling. But using an actual historical figure as a MC was a troublesome choice.

[Winged Wolf]

Originally posted by DragonBane:

There hasn't been an AC game that hasn't launched with bugs and glitches...

I'm not talking about bugs and glitches. Skyrim is a buggy mess and it still sells well every time they re-release it.

People expensive Ubisoft to release games with the same issues they always have is exactly why I think the game would've done badly with or without Yasuke. People are getting real tired of Ubisoft's slop, which is why the last two games Skull & Bones and Star Wars Outlaws flopped.

The only chance this game had of being a success was the game being actually good; having a good story with good dialogue, an interesting and evolving gameplay loop, a full game without micro-transactions are a battle pass. Once people saw the reviews, the gameplays or the streams and noticed this was more generic garbage; they passed.

[Winged Wolf]

Originally posted by josh777:

The stealth gameplay I think is the best in the series, and I've played every single one of them. So, I'm not sure what your complaints are.

I'm glad you feel that way fam, most people don't however which is why it's failing so hard.

[Pattern Recognizer]

Nah, they make it out alive like they always do. Slippery bastards. People who doesn't care about anything and "internet" for them ends on TikTok or twitter with personal bubble will buy their games no matter what.

[Nyx]

Originally posted by Winged Wolf:

Originally posted by josh777:

The stealth gameplay I think is the best in the series, and I've played every single one of them. So, I'm not sure what your complaints are.

I'm glad you feel that way fam, most people don't however which is why it's failing so hard.

You mean most people who didn't play.

[B-Runner]

Originally posted by DragonBane:

Originally posted by Winged Wolf:

The samurai being a black person is not the sickness, it's the symptom. Yasuke is the least of this game's problems.

There hasn't been an AC game that hasn't launched with bugs and glitches, everyone expects those by now.

i'm yet to see a real bug or even a glitch after 30 hours of playing the game. if you have the hardware for it, this is really a good release.

[tshrimp]

Originally posted by Nyx:

Originally posted by Winged Wolf:

I'm glad you feel that way fam, most people don't however which is why it's failing so hard.

You mean most people who didn't play.

So ask yourself, why is that? Obviously Ubisoft failed to reach gamers with, what should have been, the best setting for an AC game. Leave out propaganda and don't insult an entire culture and that should help.

[Budoshi]

Originally posted by DragonBane:

Shadows could have easily been the best selling AC game ever made, if Ubisoft would have used an actual Japanese Samurai instead of going the political agenda route. Now the game is going to flop, and they are going to have to sell of the company, firing most of the staff.

not only that but most game company that did go with political ideologies go broke / layoffs almost everywhere and their games didn't sell well at all , this alone should be a wake up call for activist game devs.. and yet ..it didnt stop ubisoft to do the same apparently ....well... now they know. it is sad but looks like this had to happen to get a reality check in the company .