Stop judging Shadows numbers

[Eldwin]

Player count data has been misled because people keep comparing to other games and not the Assassins Creed launches themselves, check ALL of them, Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla, Mirage, if you want to see player count the steam player base for those games are small.

[VHS NEON]

Anyone thinking Ubisoft will go out of business or that Shadows will be a flop is delusional and drank too much grifter propaganda.
99% of gamers do not care about this culture war nonsense. They don’t care if a game is woke or not, they buy anyway.

[Eldwin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

I'm glad you brought this up, it made me realize we can estimate how many copies Shadows has sold on Steam.

REPO has reportedly exceeded $25M in revenue. If we stretch that across its time on the store, we're looking at around $6.25M per week. Rough numbers.

Steam Deck is trickier. It's sold around 6 million units since 2022. This is gonna be very, very rough, but let's split that across three years (from February of 2022 to February of 2025). That's two million units per year, or around $38,400 per week.

Which would mean that in four days, on Steam alone, Shadows made somewhere between $38,000 and $6,000,0000. Probably much more than $38,000 because it also beat the notoriously cash-grabby Counterstrike 2, but because all that comes from micro, we have zero way of estimating the revenue.

If we want to try to refine that, we can take the number I can find and extrapolate: $610 million in "the first half of 2024". This amounts to around a hundred million dollars per month, though, which amounts to $1.5M per week.

So by best estimates, Shadows in four days made more than $1.5 million and less than $6.25 million. If we assume the lowest possible figure ($1.6M), we're looking at 22,857 copies sold on Steam across the four-day span. But we know that's not it because concurrent players peaked at 64k. So it's probably closer to $3-4 million, accounting for Ubisoft subs.

Get your mother to stick that to the fridge for you. She'll be real proud of what you made up.

Don’t downplay it, thank you for doing the logistics for me, I was planning to check but once Ubi+ metric data is easier to get a understanding of I’m planning to check projected sales

[CONJONES]

there's no point bickering this autistically about the numbers

all we can do is wait and see if UBI get's sued by shareholders and then gobbled up by Tencent

[Unknownsurfin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

Odyssey peaked at 62k on Steam and ended up selling 10 million copies. So Shadows is on track to be in the top 50% of all-time AC sellers.

Nope

[Unknownsurfin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Eldwin:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

Get your mother to stick that to the fridge for you. She'll be real proud of what you made up.

Don’t downplay it, thank you for doing the logistics for me, I was planning to check but once Ubi+ metric data is easier to get a understanding of I’m planning to check projected sales

You arent "Doing" statistics" your falsifying them

[Eldwin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von VHS NEON:

Anyone thinking Ubisoft will go out of business or that Shadows will be a flop is delusional and drank too much grifter propaganda.
99% of gamers do not care about this culture war nonsense. They don’t care if a game is woke or not, they buy anyway.

And 99% of gamers don't care about Shadows, they clearly haven't bought it.

You have 0.5 hours I cannot even trust anything you say anymore, you say it crash but did you ever report it? Probably not. Never had a crashing issue once playing over 10 hours.

[The Former]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

If you can find me figures that contradict this, I'd be happy to recalculate accordingly. I tend to just take whatever I see repeated in 3+ articles on the first page of a Google search.

Why do you think I'm gonna go to the effort to try and make it look like Shadows is more successful than it is? ...That's your job.

And I did it. You're trying to paint me into a no-win situation by suggesting I'm using bogus numbers without providing evidence. You're telling me to contradict my own data. So I'll turn your question back on you:

Why do you think I'm gonna go to the effort to try and make the data I found look like it's fake? That's your job.

[Eldwin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Unknownsurfin:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Eldwin:

Don’t downplay it, thank you for doing the logistics for me, I was planning to check but once Ubi+ metric data is easier to get a understanding of I’m planning to check projected sales

You arent "Doing" statistics" your falsifying them

I’m not even doing anything actually, I never posted any statistical numbers for sales, I’m just here vibing.

[The Former]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Unknownsurfin:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

Odyssey peaked at 62k on Steam and ended up selling 10 million copies. So Shadows is on track to be in the top 50% of all-time AC sellers.

Nope

Source?

[The Former]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Eldwin:

You have 0.5 hours I cannot even trust anything you say anymore, you say it crash but did you ever report it? Probably not. Never had a crashing issue once playing over 10 hours.

What a good thing it is that I don't care about your opinion nor your trust.

Why the hell do we talk to eachother? No one cares about anyone else's opinion. Why are we here? Why are we wasting our lives? What is wrong with us?

[SassyPanda]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

What a good thing it is that I don't care about your opinion nor your trust.

Why the hell do we talk to eachother? No one cares about anyone else's opinion. Why are we here? Why are we wasting our lives? What is wrong with us?

For you to get something to ask about.

[The Former]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

And I did it. You're trying to paint me into a no-win situation by suggesting I'm using bogus numbers without providing evidence. You're telling me to contradict my own data. So I'll turn your question back on you:

Why do you think I'm gonna go to the effort to try and make the data I found look like it's fake? That's your job.

Is this a bot? You are making no sense.

Let me state it more simply:

I looked up numbers. I did math based on those numbers. You came along and told me I was full of ♥♥♥♥. When I asked you to find figures that prove your claim, you said, "Nah, that's your job."

It's not my job. It's your claim, it's your job to verify it. It would be ridiculous for me to go hunt down numbers that make me look like a liar, even if I were lying. If you want to convince anyone I'm using fake numbers, you have to present the real ones.

[VHS NEON]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jumunji:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von VHS NEON:

Anyone thinking Ubisoft will go out of business or that Shadows will be a flop is delusional and drank too much grifter propaganda.
99% of gamers do not care about this culture war nonsense. They don’t care if a game is woke or not, they buy anyway.

are they buying though wheres the sales numbers ? KCD 2 SOLD 1 million copies in 24 hrs AC shadown barely hits 3 million PLAYERS are a weekend release lol show me in what world this is a success and not in your own fantasy world we want numbers and proof

KCD2 was very woke though. I remember every single grifter complain about how woke it is to a point of even the developers telling people to shut up.
Yet it was a massive success.
AC Shadows will not be a flop because in what world would it be? No one cares about your culture war.

[The Former]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

Let me state it more simply:

I looked up numbers. I did math based on those numbers. You came along and told me I was full of ♥♥♥♥. When I asked you to find figures that prove your claim, you said, "Nah, that's your job."

It's not my job. It's your claim, it's your job to verify it. It would be ridiculous for me to go hunt down numbers that make me look like a liar, even if I were lying. If you want to convince anyone I'm using fake numbers, you have to present the real ones.

This is why the department of education needed to be shut down.

Reading comprehension at an all time low.

Ah, I see your game now. Well then let's play:

Your momma's so beloved that Trump revoked Biden's executive order making her birthday a national holiday, just so he could make a new one that observed the whole month as the holiday.

[The Former]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jumunji:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

Let me state it more simply:

I looked up numbers. I did math based on those numbers. You came along and told me I was full of ♥♥♥♥. When I asked you to find figures that prove your claim, you said, "Nah, that's your job."

It's not my job. It's your claim, it's your job to verify it. It would be ridiculous for me to go hunt down numbers that make me look like a liar, even if I were lying. If you want to convince anyone I'm using fake numbers, you have to present the real ones.

" So by best estimates, Shadows in four days made more than $1.5 million and less than $6.25 million. If we assume the lowest possible figure ($1.6M), we're looking at 22,857 copies sold on Steam across the four-day span. But we know that's not it because concurrent players peaked at 64k. So it's probably closer to $3-4 million, accounting for Ubisoft subs. " this is your post where does it show credible numbers ? all i see in this section is estimates and assumptions ??

In this part:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Former:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YoYoStevo:

Yes and if REPO, an indie game that is ONE MONTH OLD and is far cheaper (thus they need FAR MORE SALES) is higher than Shadows that means Shadows is selling poorly. You admitted that.

I'm glad you brought this up, it made me realize we can estimate how many copies Shadows has sold on Steam.

REPO has reportedly exceeded $25M in revenue. If we stretch that across its time on the store, we're looking at around $6.25M per week. Rough numbers.

Steam Deck is trickier. It's sold around 6 million units since 2022. This is gonna be very, very rough, but let's split that across three years (from February of 2022 to February of 2025). That's two million units per year, or around $38,400 per week.

Which would mean that in four days, on Steam alone, Shadows made somewhere between $38,000 and $6,000,0000. Probably much more than $38,000 because it also beat the notoriously cash-grabby Counterstrike 2, but because all that comes from micro, we have zero way of estimating the revenue.

If we want to try to refine that, we can take the number I can find and extrapolate: $610 million in "the first half of 2024". This amounts to around a hundred million dollars per month, though, which amounts to $1.5M per week.

Except I think I screwed up because that should be $25 million...? I think? It's late, my brain's shutting down. But that would just make Shadows look even better so let's pretend $1.5 million is the right number.