As an Asian guy

[Def]

This game has got to be the most vitriolic insult I've ever seen to any culture of any country. I just saw the final bosses on youtube. They made the legendary Hattori Hanzo a whipped cuck loser and played random African tribal chants while Yasuke was fighting the Portuguese guy. Is Ubisoft serious?

[Zarok]

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Why would Wokeness having a black person in an Asian culture? Or is the problem that the main characters aren't white men? You think Trump cares about anyone but himself and especially people who aren't rich white men?

Also I'd further point out that Trump only is president in America. He literally has no power over the rest of the world. Although I know Americans often fail to realise there is an entire world outside of America.

woke start from america, if woke die in america it die everywhere. Yasuke is definitely not gay and they make him gay anyway, a chance of him being gay is close to 0% trying to put identity politic into an entertainment media is woke practice.

Also thanks for proving your only problem with the game is it having a gay character.

[kegomatix]

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That’s why Japanese fans — and even politicians — are speaking out. It’s not the setting that’s offensive, it’s the disrespect toward actual historical people.

Quit exaggerating it. The politicians were mad because shrines could be "desecrated" with destructible environments and blood splatter which, yes, is overly sensitive and dumb IMO.

[DVerde]

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Man, where were all the outrageed people when Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla came out? They totally ruined Greece, man, by filling it with horny dudes, and a *woman*. Man, I bet the real Greece was outraged at such *liberties* in fictional writing. :rollseyes: Bayek even even desecrated the Great Pyramids, such real life culture shock!

No one’s saying Assassin’s Creed can’t take creative liberties. The issue here is that Ubisoft didn’t just exaggerate or stylize history like in Origins or Odyssey — they completely rewrote real people, especially someone like Lady Oichi, into something opposite of what they stood for.

That’s not the same as turning a historical setting into an action playground — that’s character assassination of real people whose legacies are still respected and honored, especially in Japan.

And here’s the difference:
🟢 Bayek didn’t defile the Egyptian gods or rewrite real Egyptian figures into clowns.
🟢 Kassandra didn’t rewrite Aspasia into an unfaithful parody.
🔴 Oichi, a respected symbol of loyalty and duty, is rewritten into someone unfaithful for a romance plot.
🔴 Hattori Hanzo, one of Japan’s most legendary figures, is turned into a weak background joke.

That’s why Japanese fans — and even politicians — are speaking out. It’s not the setting that’s offensive, it’s the disrespect toward actual historical people.

And when the people from that culture are telling you it's too far? That’s your cue to listen — not roll your eyes and act like it’s the same as having a few too many shirtless Spartans.

I can clearly see you didn't play those games.

Julius Caesar literaly gets written off like Hanzo, and nobody cared because "Generic white dude". It's not until it's Japan that people actually cared what Assassin's Creed was doing with their stories. What about when George Washington was an actual tyrant and ruled America with an iron fist? Totally insulted my culture, man!

Historical Fiction does not mean *Accurate* fiction.

[Zarok]

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The Civilization games already made Gandhi into a warmonger. Look up nuclear Gandhi.

I'm going to assume you know the whole "Nuclear Gandhi" thing was a glitch, not an intentional rewrite of Gandhi’s character

Look it up

"The first such intentional inclusion of Nuclear Gandhi was in Civilization V. Civilization V lead game designer Jon Shafer set Gandhi's "Build Nuke" and "Use Nuke" parameters to the highest possible value, 12. Shafer said that he did this as a joke:"

From the wikipedia. It was put in intentionally as a joke in Civ 5.

[MythicRocfordson]

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Man, where were all the outrageed people when Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla came out? They totally ruined Greece, man, by filling it with horny dudes, and a *woman*. Man, I bet the real Greece was outraged at such *liberties* in fictional writing. :rollseyes: Bayek even even desecrated the Great Pyramids, such real life culture shock!

No one’s saying Assassin’s Creed can’t take creative liberties. The issue here is that Ubisoft didn’t just exaggerate or stylize history like in Origins or Odyssey — they completely rewrote real people, especially someone like Lady Oichi, into something opposite of what they stood for.

That’s not the same as turning a historical setting into an action playground — that’s character assassination of real people whose legacies are still respected and honored, especially in Japan.

And here’s the difference:
🟢 Bayek didn’t defile the Egyptian gods or rewrite real Egyptian figures into clowns.
🟢 Kassandra didn’t rewrite Aspasia into an unfaithful parody.
🔴 Oichi, a respected symbol of loyalty and duty, is rewritten into someone unfaithful for a romance plot.
🔴 Hattori Hanzo, one of Japan’s most legendary figures, is turned into a weak background joke.

That’s why Japanese fans — and even politicians — are speaking out. It’s not the setting that’s offensive, it’s the disrespect toward actual historical people.

And when the people from that culture are telling you it's too far? That’s your cue to listen — not roll your eyes and act like it’s the same as having a few too many shirtless Spartans.

Rewrote? You don't think that's a little dramatic?...

Also, who gives a ♥♥♥♥?

If they wanted to cast a historical figure differently then they were, in a series that doesn't really care too much about historical accuracy anyway, why is this such a big deal?

Idk it just sounds a lot like pointless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to me

[Kerpal]

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Don't worry, trump will annihilated wokeness from westerner soon

Why would Wokeness having a black person in an Asian culture? Or is the problem that the main characters aren't white men? You think Trump cares about anyone but himself and especially people who aren't rich white men?

Also I'd further point out that Trump only is president in America. He literally has no power over the rest of the world. Although I know Americans often fail to realise there is an entire world outside of America.

Trump cares more about people then all Democrats together on Earth!

[longjohn119]

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This game has got to be the most vitriolic insult I've ever seen to any culture of any country. I just saw the final bosses on youtube. They made the legendary Hattori Hanzo a whipped cuck loser and played random African tribal chants while Yasuke was fighting the Portuguese guy. Is Ubisoft serious?

Yet you said nothing when they disrespected Islam in the first game, Christianity and the Pope in the second game, nearly all of America's Founding Fathers in the third game, Greek historical figures in Odyssey and Christianity again in Valhalla ...... I could go on to point out the other hypocrisies ......

[allknowingeel]

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You saying you've experienced disrespect doesn't excuse mocking another culture’s historical trauma.

If anything, I’d expect someone who knows how that feels to show empathy — not weaponize someone else’s suffering because “you’ve had it worse.” That’s not solidarity. That’s just bitterness turned outward.

You didn’t respond to what was said — you just tried to justify mocking a nation over being nuked because you’ve been disrespected too. That’s not the flex you think it is.

Disrespecting one group doesn’t fix the disrespect toward another. It just makes everything worse.

You can absolutely be frustrated with how people treat your culture — and you should speak up about it. But turning around and dismissing another culture’s pain isn’t strength. It’s hypocrisy.

If you actually answer the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ question, then it isn't mocking

Just saying

You weren’t answering a question in good faith — you were mocking people for caring about how their culture is represented, and you used mass death to do it. That’s not curiosity. That’s cruelty.

Don’t try to rewrite your tone now that you’re being called out. If it really was a question, you would’ve framed it with respect, not as a jab. You weren’t inviting dialogue — you were belittling people’s pain.

Saying “if you answer it, it’s not mocking” is like insulting someone and then acting like it’s their fault for being offended. That’s not how empathy or accountability works.

[MythicRocfordson]

Maybe the problem is Japanese people overvalue their value and worth to the world

[KS[Expert Hunter]]

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You saying you've experienced disrespect doesn't excuse mocking another culture’s historical trauma.

If anything, I’d expect someone who knows how that feels to show empathy — not weaponize someone else’s suffering because “you’ve had it worse.” That’s not solidarity. That’s just bitterness turned outward.

You didn’t respond to what was said — you just tried to justify mocking a nation over being nuked because you’ve been disrespected too. That’s not the flex you think it is.

Disrespecting one group doesn’t fix the disrespect toward another. It just makes everything worse.

You can absolutely be frustrated with how people treat your culture — and you should speak up about it. But turning around and dismissing another culture’s pain isn’t strength. It’s hypocrisy.

If you actually answer the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ question, then it isn't mocking

Just saying

I been mistreated and was seen as nothing more than a plague that was being ignored, stepped on and spit on literally and figuratively. And so what? Slop is slop. Truth is truth. There are all the evidences that point in the right direction. I know what I saw and that's it.

It pay to use the brains rather than your emotions ;D

[Zarok]

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No one’s saying Assassin’s Creed can’t take creative liberties. The issue here is that Ubisoft didn’t just exaggerate or stylize history like in Origins or Odyssey — they completely rewrote real people, especially someone like Lady Oichi, into something opposite of what they stood for.

That’s not the same as turning a historical setting into an action playground — that’s character assassination of real people whose legacies are still respected and honored, especially in Japan.

And here’s the difference:
🟢 Bayek didn’t defile the Egyptian gods or rewrite real Egyptian figures into clowns.
🟢 Kassandra didn’t rewrite Aspasia into an unfaithful parody.
🔴 Oichi, a respected symbol of loyalty and duty, is rewritten into someone unfaithful for a romance plot.
🔴 Hattori Hanzo, one of Japan’s most legendary figures, is turned into a weak background joke.

That’s why Japanese fans — and even politicians — are speaking out. It’s not the setting that’s offensive, it’s the disrespect toward actual historical people.

And when the people from that culture are telling you it's too far? That’s your cue to listen — not roll your eyes and act like it’s the same as having a few too many shirtless Spartans.

Rewrote? You don't think that's a little dramatic?...

Also, who gives a ♥♥♥♥?

If they wanted to cast a historical figure differently then they were, in a series that doesn't really care too much about historical accuracy anyway, why is this such a big deal?

Idk it just sounds a lot like pointless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to me

Honestly I doubt many of the characters are historically accurate. There's lists of historical inaccuracies in gaming and in the Assassin's Creed series and there's a lot. Games aren't known for being historically accurate and the Assassin's Creed series has deviated a lot through the entire series from history.

[Zarok]

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Why would Wokeness having a black person in an Asian culture? Or is the problem that the main characters aren't white men? You think Trump cares about anyone but himself and especially people who aren't rich white men?

Also I'd further point out that Trump only is president in America. He literally has no power over the rest of the world. Although I know Americans often fail to realise there is an entire world outside of America.

Trump cares more about people then all Democrats together on Earth!

Hahahhaha, tell me you're a cultist without telling me you're a cultist.

[MythicRocfordson]

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If you actually answer the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ question, then it isn't mocking

Just saying

You weren’t answering a question in good faith — you were mocking people for caring about how their culture is represented, and you used mass death to do it. That’s not curiosity. That’s cruelty.

Don’t try to rewrite your tone now that you’re being called out. If it really was a question, you would’ve framed it with respect, not as a jab. You weren’t inviting dialogue — you were belittling people’s pain.

Saying “if you answer it, it’s not mocking” is like insulting someone and then acting like it’s their fault for being offended. That’s not how empathy or accountability works.

idk I've seen a pretty distinct regard for cultures around the world.

I'm just not gathering why I'm supposed to care here. No one implicitly ♥♥♥♥ talked or depicted anyone in an ethically nefarious light, no one declared war, and no one aspired to say Japan isn't worth ♥♥♥♥.

You're blowing a lot of hot air right about now

[Mr Darkness]

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Maybe the problem is Japanese people overvalue their value and worth to the world

they do, they are an extremely radical traditionalist, they wont step outta line because its their "culture" same culture that has horrible work laws, sexist values *cough sa rates* people are going to meat ride japan when it comes to anything, wasnt any outrage when the pope was getting beat up, but do a poorly representation of japan, the soy jacks come out of the wood works. and as a person who has dozens of hours reading and learning about japans history and culture, i sleep quite fine. remember same country makes a majority of revenue off of adult material

[Kerpal]

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Maybe the problem is Japanese people overvalue their value and worth to the world

The question is why has the Japanese history been dragged through the mud with this game compared to previous Assassin's Creed titles? So, should the Japanese just accept this embargo? Just imagine if Ubisoft makes an Assassin's Creed game in Africa and the main character is a white, strong, 2-meter-tall man who beat up blacks and cut their heads off, also from black womens in the game. What would happen then, worldwide hmm? lol, Clown!