please just make another black flag

[Captain]

tired of these assassins creed games that keep coming out man just make a black flag 2 without the assassins part with online open world thats what everybody wants

black flag is the best pirate game out there and was really successful when it came out because there isnt a pirate game like black flag so make another one

and no, dont tell me to go play black flag, because that game is missing the online open world so once you finish the game, its done. And people would like another black flag, a newer version, new story, with online, etc.

and before someone comes to me with skull and bones, please dont. You know exactly whats missing in skull and bones, its the free roaming and all the other activities/stuff that you could do in black flag that you cant do in skull and bones. Thats why skull and bones flopped very hard.

and NO, sea of thieves is too cartoonish and goofy and isnt like black flag so dont come to me with sea of thieves, either.

I just dont understand why there isnt a single pirate game out there that is actually good like black flag but theres tons of other medieval-like games that are really good and open world

and lastly, to clarify, im not trolling or baiting or whatever you wanna call it, this is 100% serious. Im just getting sick of waiting and hoping for another good pirate game to come out when all these assassins creed games or other medieval games come out like every year or so

the pirate topic (black flag for example) has tons of potential and yet, no game creators ever make one. We have enough sword/medieval games. Its time for a good pirate game like black flag but even better this time

[Wanuboi]

I'm dropping from nowhere to the conv. Just to say i played for the 1st time TLOU1 and TLOU 2 and on PC. TLOU2 was a 220M dollar game and we know that AC Shadow is over 300M. And playing those two masterpieces i can't stop thinking how is it possible to do games with THAT bad of AI, narration, level design, unique gameplay mechanics, etc when you have that much budget ?

So i've watched Grounded 1 (Last of Us Part 1 Documentary on youtube) and i got the answer. Basically no corporate mechanics in the team, everyone is free to speak directly without maners because you're a sensible person and everyone can express their ideas. No 4 guys you have to come through to tell to the lead designer "this is not fun, would be better to do this". And if you haven't yet, i HIGHLY suggest you to play TLOU 1 & 2 and you will see what a great Triple A game looks like. These days in triple A space there is only 4 studios that are regular on quality triple A : Kojima, Rockstar, Naughty Dog & CD Projekt (Exception with the CP2077 start but turned out pretty good after a year).

Ubisoft is MILES away behind them. And people liking Ubisoft games are the most casual players or/and players with really low experience in gaming. Ubisoft makes generic games, that will not mark you in anyway (at least since 8 years). I mean go do RDR2, TLOU games, Metro Exodus, it's pure art because you feel every inch of the experience meant for you. After finishing them you will talk of them, think about them, they will even make you learn things for your own life. That's real Triple A experience and how it should be.

Ubisoft games, you start the game and you already know what to do, you are in a safe environnement, cause its the same game since 20 years with just few improvements and additions but there is no revolution made anywhere in their games since a LONG TIME. We left them maps & graphism as a sign of their quality but for real, not even those anymore. Again, go play TLOU 1 remaster, that is a remaster of a 2013 game, and it blows up AC Shadow in graphism & artistic direction (textures & all details everywhere) and also maps, TLOU level designs are FAR superior and far more beautiful than what Ubisoft make.

Last Ubisoft game i played was Valhalla and i played like 70 hours of the game and i couldn't finish the story cause the whole experience was filled with generic stuff and nothing that marked me. I already forgot 98% of it. RDR2, CP2077, The Witcher 3 i can still explain their stories, how i felt playing them, tell which moments i prefered, even if i haven't experienced them for a long time. Ubisoft has become what Netflix productions are to movies. So yeah, some people will watch them and say that was cool, but honestly they will forget those productions quick after, cause it's pure non-art and just pop corn shows for consumption and watch time. And that's why Breakin Bad is the most loved shows of all time and that 99% of Netflix productions will never get the TOP 100.

[Captain]

İlk olarak sh3riff tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Captain tarafından gönderildi:

yeah they dont want to but here I am reminding them that people want that and it would be a good idea to make

Sadly, until management is changed, Yves and others fired and replaced with someone new, fresh, young who cares about quality and knows what is what, nothing will change and this will only continue.

yes unfortunately...

[Captain]

İlk olarak Wanuboi tarafından gönderildi:

I'm dropping from nowhere to the conv. Just to say i played for the 1st time TLOU1 and TLOU 2 and on PC. TLOU2 was a 220M dollar game and we know that AC Shadow is over 300M. And playing those two masterpieces i can't stop thinking how is it possible to do games with THAT bad of AI, narration, level design, unique gameplay mechanics, etc when you have that much budget ?

So i've watched Grounded 1 (Last of Us Part 1 Documentary on youtube) and i got the answer. Basically no corporate mechanics in the team, everyone is free to speak directly without maners because you're a sensible person and everyone can express their ideas. No 4 guys you have to come through to tell to the lead designer "this is not fun, would be better to do this". And if you haven't yet, i HIGHLY suggest you to play TLOU 1 & 2 and you will see what a great Triple A game looks like. These days in triple A space there is only 4 studios that are regular on quality triple A : Kojima, Rockstar, Naughty Dog & CD Projekt (Exception with the CP2077 start but turned out pretty good after a year).

Ubisoft is MILES away behind them. And people liking Ubisoft games are the most casual players or/and players with really low experience in gaming. Ubisoft makes generic games, that will not mark you in anyway (at least since 8 years). I mean go do RDR2, TLOU games, Metro Exodus, it's pure art because you feel every inch of the experience meant for you. After finishing them you will talk of them, think about them, they will even make you learn things for your own life. That's real Triple A experience and how it should be.

Ubisoft games, you start the game and you already know what to do, you are in a safe environnement, cause its the same game since 20 years with just few improvements and additions but there is no revolution made anywhere in their games since a LONG TIME. We left them maps & graphism as a sign of their quality but for real, not even those anymore. Again, go play TLOU 1 remaster, that is a remaster of a 2013 game, and it blows up AC Shadow in graphism & artistic direction (textures & all details everywhere) and also maps, TLOU level designs are FAR superior and far more beautiful than what Ubisoft make.

Last Ubisoft game i played was Valhalla and i played like 70 hours of the game and i couldn't finish the story cause the whole experience was filled with generic stuff and nothing that marked me. I already forgot 98% of it. RDR2, CP2077, The Witcher 3 i can still explain their stories, how i felt playing them, tell which moments i prefered, even if i haven't experienced them for a long time. Ubisoft has become what Netflix productions are to movies. So yeah, some people will watch them and say that was cool, but honestly they will forget those productions quick after, cause it's pure non-art and just pop corn shows for consumption and watch time. And that's why Breakin Bad is the most loved shows of all time and that 99% of Netflix productions will never get the TOP 100.

you're right, very well said.

And last of us doesnt interest me because I think the story is too dramatic/sad and I dont like that stuff...the game itself, sure, looks nice and all that but the story kinda bothers me I think

[Wanuboi]

İlk olarak Captain tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Wanuboi tarafından gönderildi:

I'm dropping from nowhere to the conv. Just to say i played for the 1st time TLOU1 and TLOU 2 and on PC. TLOU2 was a 220M dollar game and we know that AC Shadow is over 300M. And playing those two masterpieces i can't stop thinking how is it possible to do games with THAT bad of AI, narration, level design, unique gameplay mechanics, etc when you have that much budget ?

So i've watched Grounded 1 (Last of Us Part 1 Documentary on youtube) and i got the answer. Basically no corporate mechanics in the team, everyone is free to speak directly without maners because you're a sensible person and everyone can express their ideas. No 4 guys you have to come through to tell to the lead designer "this is not fun, would be better to do this". And if you haven't yet, i HIGHLY suggest you to play TLOU 1 & 2 and you will see what a great Triple A game looks like. These days in triple A space there is only 4 studios that are regular on quality triple A : Kojima, Rockstar, Naughty Dog & CD Projekt (Exception with the CP2077 start but turned out pretty good after a year).

Ubisoft is MILES away behind them. And people liking Ubisoft games are the most casual players or/and players with really low experience in gaming. Ubisoft makes generic games, that will not mark you in anyway (at least since 8 years). I mean go do RDR2, TLOU games, Metro Exodus, it's pure art because you feel every inch of the experience meant for you. After finishing them you will talk of them, think about them, they will even make you learn things for your own life. That's real Triple A experience and how it should be.

Ubisoft games, you start the game and you already know what to do, you are in a safe environnement, cause its the same game since 20 years with just few improvements and additions but there is no revolution made anywhere in their games since a LONG TIME. We left them maps & graphism as a sign of their quality but for real, not even those anymore. Again, go play TLOU 1 remaster, that is a remaster of a 2013 game, and it blows up AC Shadow in graphism & artistic direction (textures & all details everywhere) and also maps, TLOU level designs are FAR superior and far more beautiful than what Ubisoft make.

Last Ubisoft game i played was Valhalla and i played like 70 hours of the game and i couldn't finish the story cause the whole experience was filled with generic stuff and nothing that marked me. I already forgot 98% of it. RDR2, CP2077, The Witcher 3 i can still explain their stories, how i felt playing them, tell which moments i prefered, even if i haven't experienced them for a long time. Ubisoft has become what Netflix productions are to movies. So yeah, some people will watch them and say that was cool, but honestly they will forget those productions quick after, cause it's pure non-art and just pop corn shows for consumption and watch time. And that's why Breakin Bad is the most loved shows of all time and that 99% of Netflix productions will never get the TOP 100.

you're right, very well said.

And last of us doesnt interest me because I think the story is too dramatic/sad and I dont like that stuff...the game itself, sure, looks nice and all that but the story kinda bothers me I think

Yeah but even if the story don't please you, how can we deny the gameplay quality ? The AI is so intelligent and function as close as possible to a real human. Animations, combat, sound, visuals, level design. It's that type of game that is so good that even people who don't like because it's not their taste agreed to say it's a masterpiece. RDR2 also. There is hypocrits that will find a way to be fake and say "huh, ME I DONT LIKE IT, Its a very bad game, blablbabla" but who cares. Baldur's Gate 3 which is a game i can't play (tested it) because of turn based combat but i admit from what i experienced a little and from what i've seen that it is a masterpiece, same for Elden Ring. Really not my type of games for few reasons but if you are a true person to yourself we can't deny those game are true gems and that the reasons why they are so popular are obvious. But it should be the same for Ubisoft games, people "liking" them should admit that it is generic af and forgettable af. I mean i played CoD 3 years ago, tried hard the game for 3 months but i was not like you are wrong CoD games are awesome and are top quality. Obviously they suck but its the same sheet so it's safe, no risk, you buy one, nothing is there to suprise you, or make you leave the game with thoughts that will stay with you for life. It's not art, its pure consumption products.

[Falcos01]

İlk olarak Captain tarafından gönderildi:

tired of these assassins creed games that keep coming out man just make a black flag 2 without the assassins part with online open world thats what everybody wants

black flag is the best pirate game out there and was really successful when it came out because there isnt a pirate game like black flag so make another one

and no, dont tell me to go play black flag, because that game is missing the online open world so once you finish the game, its done. And people would like another black flag, a newer version, new story, with online, etc.

and before someone comes to me with skull and bones, please dont. You know exactly whats missing in skull and bones, its the free roaming and all the other activities/stuff that you could do in black flag that you cant do in skull and bones. Thats why skull and bones flopped very hard.

and NO, sea of thieves is too cartoonish and goofy and isnt like black flag so dont come to me with sea of thieves, either.

I just dont understand why there isnt a single pirate game out there that is actually good like black flag but theres tons of other medieval-like games that are really good and open world

and lastly, to clarify, im not trolling or baiting or whatever you wanna call it, this is 100% serious. Im just getting sick of waiting and hoping for another good pirate game to come out when all these assassins creed games or other medieval games come out like every year or so

the pirate topic (black flag for example) has tons of potential and yet, no game creators ever make one. We have enough sword/medieval games. Its time for a good pirate game like black flag but even better this time

You begging for a non AC game...

[Falcos01]

İlk olarak Kirioz tarafından gönderildi:

You'll be lucky if this game doesn't take down the company. xD

meh Its the best AC game for me so far

[sh3riff]

İlk olarak Wanuboi tarafından gönderildi:

i can't stop thinking how is it possible to do games with THAT bad of AI, narration, level design, unique gameplay mechanics, etc when you have that much budget ?

Many companies do that past years .. the woke, DEI, everything takes insane amount of time while having 10 times more people, or even 1000 times more than others and doing actually way less work.

My theory is, these studios and people are just stealing money from mother company, sponsors, grants .. talks a lot, doing not much.

There is not much going on if you think about it. You have 5-10k people working on the project, game .. takes 5 plus years to make, still only early access, doesnt even have basic game mechanics like 10 or even 30 years ago .. there is something seriously wrong and those are just lazy slackers, stealing money ..

Husband sends message to wife: Honey, going out for a beer, will be back in 15 minutes, if not, read this again.

İlk olarak Falcos01 tarafından gönderildi:

Its the best AC game for me

How many did you actually played and how many hours total for all and how many hours for your best game?
40 hours in 2 weeks for your best game? Doesnt sound so good.

[Weltall8000]

Oof, makes me think how I legit don't like Red Dead Redemption 2, and it mostly comes down to my hating the controls. Despite my seeing it having so much going for it. As a game, it is nigh unplayable for me. Which is a shame, I like a lot of the sim/survival stuff. The setting and characters are interesting too. But damn, I hate actually trying to play it because of those controls.

[Falcos01]

İlk olarak sh3riff tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Wanuboi tarafından gönderildi:

i can't stop thinking how is it possible to do games with THAT bad of AI, narration, level design, unique gameplay mechanics, etc when you have that much budget ?

Many companies do that past years .. the woke, DEI, everything takes insane amount of time while having 10 times more people, or even 1000 times more than others and doing actually way less work.

My theory is, these studios and people are just stealing money from mother company, sponsors, grants .. talks a lot, doing not much.

There is not much going on if you think about it. You have 5-10k people working on the project, game .. takes 5 plus years to make, still only early access, doesnt even have basic game mechanics like 10 or even 30 years ago .. there is something seriously wrong and those are just lazy slackers, stealing money ..

Husband sends message to wife: Honey, going out for a beer, will be back in 15 minutes, if not, read this again.

İlk olarak Falcos01 tarafından gönderildi:

Its the best AC game for me

How many did you actually played and how many hours total for all and how many hours for your best game?
40 hours in 2 weeks for your best game? Doesnt sound so good.

But what if I like the genre, Japan + katana like Ghost of Tsushima, Sekiro, Rise of the Ronin, Nioh etc... I like these games so AC Shadows is the best AC for me and a good addition because its in Japan and I wanted it since the Ezio trilogy.

[n1claren]

İlk olarak Falcos01 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Kirioz tarafından gönderildi:

You'll be lucky if this game doesn't take down the company. xD

meh Its the best AC game for me so far

i second that, AC Shadows is THE BEST AC game

[Falcos01]

İlk olarak sh3riff tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Wanuboi tarafından gönderildi:

i can't stop thinking how is it possible to do games with THAT bad of AI, narration, level design, unique gameplay mechanics, etc when you have that much budget ?

Many companies do that past years .. the woke, DEI, everything takes insane amount of time while having 10 times more people, or even 1000 times more than others and doing actually way less work.

My theory is, these studios and people are just stealing money from mother company, sponsors, grants .. talks a lot, doing not much.

There is not much going on if you think about it. You have 5-10k people working on the project, game .. takes 5 plus years to make, still only early access, doesnt even have basic game mechanics like 10 or even 30 years ago .. there is something seriously wrong and those are just lazy slackers, stealing money ..

Husband sends message to wife: Honey, going out for a beer, will be back in 15 minutes, if not, read this again.

İlk olarak Falcos01 tarafından gönderildi:

Its the best AC game for me

How many did you actually played and how many hours total for all and how many hours for your best game?
40 hours in 2 weeks for your best game? Doesnt sound so good.

I also have 136h 24m hours play time on AC Origins with Ubisoft Launcher but to answer 40h in 2 weeks, I works during week and do other stuff so I play when I can I wish I could give more time tho.

[Wanuboi]

İlk olarak Falcos01 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak sh3riff tarafından gönderildi:

Many companies do that past years .. the woke, DEI, everything takes insane amount of time while having 10 times more people, or even 1000 times more than others and doing actually way less work.

My theory is, these studios and people are just stealing money from mother company, sponsors, grants .. talks a lot, doing not much.

There is not much going on if you think about it. You have 5-10k people working on the project, game .. takes 5 plus years to make, still only early access, doesnt even have basic game mechanics like 10 or even 30 years ago .. there is something seriously wrong and those are just lazy slackers, stealing money ..

Husband sends message to wife: Honey, going out for a beer, will be back in 15 minutes, if not, read this again.


How many did you actually played and how many hours total for all and how many hours for your best game?
40 hours in 2 weeks for your best game? Doesnt sound so good.

But what if I like the genre, Japan + katana like Ghost of Tsushima, Sekiro, Rise of the Ronin, Nioh etc... I like these games so AC Shadows is the best AC for me and a good addition because its in Japan and I wanted it since the Ezio trilogy.

This was my most anticipated theme for AC too, back in Black Flag years i was already thinking how cool will be a AC in Shogun era. But many things have happen since and it's just something i stop anticipated since Ubisoft felt in this sheethole spiral. So ... And i got what i wanted basically with Ghost of Tsushima that is WAY better than AC Shadows

[Wanuboi]

İlk olarak Falcos01 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak sh3riff tarafından gönderildi:

Many companies do that past years .. the woke, DEI, everything takes insane amount of time while having 10 times more people, or even 1000 times more than others and doing actually way less work.

My theory is, these studios and people are just stealing money from mother company, sponsors, grants .. talks a lot, doing not much.

There is not much going on if you think about it. You have 5-10k people working on the project, game .. takes 5 plus years to make, still only early access, doesnt even have basic game mechanics like 10 or even 30 years ago .. there is something seriously wrong and those are just lazy slackers, stealing money ..

Husband sends message to wife: Honey, going out for a beer, will be back in 15 minutes, if not, read this again.


How many did you actually played and how many hours total for all and how many hours for your best game?
40 hours in 2 weeks for your best game? Doesnt sound so good.

I also have 136h 24m hours play time on AC Origins with Ubisoft Launcher but to answer 40h in 2 weeks, I works during week and do other stuff so I play when I can I wish I could give more time tho.

With those time of play you are considered a casual player, nothing wrong with it but Ubisoft are making too much generic stuff to be enjoyed by really experienced and passionate gamers so i'm sending you back to a previous message i wrote :

İlk olarak Wanuboi tarafından gönderildi:

These days in triple A space there is only 4 studios that are regular on quality triple A : Kojima, Rockstar, Naughty Dog & CD Projekt (Exception with the CP2077 start but turned out pretty good after a year).

Ubisoft is MILES away behind them. And people liking Ubisoft games are the most casual players or/and players with really low experience in gaming. Ubisoft makes generic games, that will not mark you in anyway (at least since 8 years). I mean go do RDR2, TLOU games, Metro Exodus, it's pure art because you feel every inch of the experience meant for you. After finishing them you will talk of them, think about them, they will even make you learn things for your own life. That's real Triple A experience and how it should be.

Ubisoft games, you start the game and you already know what to do, you are in a safe environnement, cause its the same game since 20 years with just few improvements and additions but there is no revolution made anywhere in their games since a LONG TIME.

[Captain]

İlk olarak Wanuboi tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Captain tarafından gönderildi:

you're right, very well said.

And last of us doesnt interest me because I think the story is too dramatic/sad and I dont like that stuff...the game itself, sure, looks nice and all that but the story kinda bothers me I think

Yeah but even if the story don't please you, how can we deny the gameplay quality ? The AI is so intelligent and function as close as possible to a real human. Animations, combat, sound, visuals, level design. It's that type of game that is so good that even people who don't like because it's not their taste agreed to say it's a masterpiece. RDR2 also. There is hypocrits that will find a way to be fake and say "huh, ME I DONT LIKE IT, Its a very bad game, blablbabla" but who cares. Baldur's Gate 3 which is a game i can't play (tested it) because of turn based combat but i admit from what i experienced a little and from what i've seen that it is a masterpiece, same for Elden Ring. Really not my type of games for few reasons but if you are a true person to yourself we can't deny those game are true gems and that the reasons why they are so popular are obvious. But it should be the same for Ubisoft games, people "liking" them should admit that it is generic af and forgettable af. I mean i played CoD 3 years ago, tried hard the game for 3 months but i was not like you are wrong CoD games are awesome and are top quality. Obviously they suck but its the same sheet so it's safe, no risk, you buy one, nothing is there to suprise you, or make you leave the game with thoughts that will stay with you for life. It's not art, its pure consumption products.

yes you're right the game is very well made I just dont like the story because too much drama/sadness I guess but the game itself yes very good

[Captain]

İlk olarak Falcos01 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Captain tarafından gönderildi:

tired of these assassins creed games that keep coming out man just make a black flag 2 without the assassins part with online open world thats what everybody wants

black flag is the best pirate game out there and was really successful when it came out because there isnt a pirate game like black flag so make another one

and no, dont tell me to go play black flag, because that game is missing the online open world so once you finish the game, its done. And people would like another black flag, a newer version, new story, with online, etc.

and before someone comes to me with skull and bones, please dont. You know exactly whats missing in skull and bones, its the free roaming and all the other activities/stuff that you could do in black flag that you cant do in skull and bones. Thats why skull and bones flopped very hard.

and NO, sea of thieves is too cartoonish and goofy and isnt like black flag so dont come to me with sea of thieves, either.

I just dont understand why there isnt a single pirate game out there that is actually good like black flag but theres tons of other medieval-like games that are really good and open world

and lastly, to clarify, im not trolling or baiting or whatever you wanna call it, this is 100% serious. Im just getting sick of waiting and hoping for another good pirate game to come out when all these assassins creed games or other medieval games come out like every year or so

the pirate topic (black flag for example) has tons of potential and yet, no game creators ever make one. We have enough sword/medieval games. Its time for a good pirate game like black flag but even better this time

You begging for a non AC game...

yes. So?