Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty

Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty

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Gratis_Frag 2015년 2월 2일 오후 4시 58분
New 'n' Tasty / Abe's Oddysee Comparison
Some insight into the differences between the two Versions by Matthewmatosis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhDrngAQZ0
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Yourgrandma님이 먼저 게시:
Funny how people would never complain or even notice half that stuff in the video if they just played the game themselves. Why anyone would just take everything one very subjective critique (not review) as their own opinion even parroting it without playing it for themselves i don't understand.

We normally find that when people play the game, they love it. Of course, there are dozens of massively positive YT videos out there, but we can't decide for gamers which they should watch.

Here are a few:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJZOiAiL01k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHwE8yRABs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6AdW0iNBhA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgc4g8gxEO8
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bizarre 2015년 2월 20일 오후 8시 40분 
Doktor Mandrake님이 먼저 게시:
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At first this video turned me off from pre ordering but he is too picky and points out things no one would really notice, he is just a fanboy. Pre ordering it after I post this comment

I think some of his complaints are very legit to me and I'd agree with them, however like you said alot of them are nit picky

But one of his points that I'd agree with is the bloom, I don't mind a little bloom but looking at that video it looks way OTT on the bloom
he is playing on the ps4 version, I bet the pc version will have an option to have bloom turned down/off. so nbd...
bizarre 2015년 2월 20일 오후 8시 41분 
Marble za Tcheez님이 먼저 게시:
Doktor Mandrake님이 먼저 게시:

I think some of his complaints are very legit to me and I'd agree with them, however like you said alot of them are nit picky

But one of his points that I'd agree with is the bloom, I don't mind a little bloom but looking at that video it looks way OTT on the bloom
Please, this is the PC version we are talking about, we have the ability to turn off annoying graphical options like depth of field and bloom, heres to hoping we can actually turn off and not just lower texture detail and AA like some games do.
sorry i didnt see this before i posted my last comment. +1
bizarre 2015년 2월 20일 오후 9시 13분 
I've watched quite a few of this guys other reviews on his channel and he doesnt really like anything... he praises nothing and seems to nit pick at everything. Things 99% of people praise and find beautiful he manages to look and seek out ANY flaw and he makes such a big deal over nothing.
Kees.exe 2015년 2월 21일 오전 2시 21분 
Alright I'm gonna post this again, if you want someone that talks positive about the game, there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgc4g8gxEO8
Mattee 2015년 2월 22일 오전 7시 28분 
FlyingSligGuard님이 먼저 게시:
Thank you for reminding me of this video. I wanted to preorder it, but now that I rewatched the video, I think I'll wait for a sale.

They f'ed up the atmosphere of the game completely, that was one of the reasons I loved the original.

What a pointless thing to say lol. Elaborate on how they "f'ed" it up. I happen to think the game is equal to or even better than the original, and that's coming from someone whos first playstation game was Abe's Oddysee.
Oddworld Admin  [개발자] 2015년 2월 24일 오전 12시 56분 
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥님이 먼저 게시:
Bizarre님이 먼저 게시:
I've watched quite a few of this guys other reviews on his channel and he doesnt really like anything... he praises nothing and seems to nit pick at everything. Things 99% of people praise and find beautiful he manages to look and seek out ANY flaw and he makes such a big deal over nothing.

After watching his little review on The Last Of Us, I can safely say this guy is a Nit with a capital Pick. I am choosing to just disregard opinions of others relating to this game. I love Oddworld too much to care about any of his points, however valid some of them may have been. I am just going to forgot every bit of footage I saw, and play it. Any true fan of this series will likely come to this conclusion just as I have.

That's our hopes, too. Criticism is great, but the vast majority of feedback on New 'n' Tasty has been super positive.
Kein Zantezuken 2015년 2월 24일 오전 7시 42분 
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥님이 먼저 게시:
Bizarre님이 먼저 게시:
I've watched quite a few of this guys other reviews on his channel and he doesnt really like anything... he praises nothing and seems to nit pick at everything. Things 99% of people praise and find beautiful he manages to look and seek out ANY flaw and he makes such a big deal over nothing.

After watching his little review on The Last Of Us, I can safely say this guy is a Nit with a capital Pick

Just because you dislike his opinion does not make it automatically wrong, especially under the condition he put a lot of weight and support, instead of just blatantly stating it (like most Steam users usually do, because they don't know thing about basic rules of discussion).

There is a difference between nitpicking and deconstructing a system to its basic components to understand what makes whole picture look good, what makes thing tick. If he did pick up just 2 of the small aspects they would look insignificant on the background of the rest, so he would have to use hyperbola and inflate them artificially a lot to make them look significant. That would be NITPICKING.

But he did not do that. He literally went through whole set of aspects of the spoken media: visuals, design, gameplay, audio and picked numerous amounts of things and concentrated his attention on them, explaining what in his opinion works and what not, using the original game as a contrast example. This is what called a CONSTRUCTIVE CRITIQUE.

I know that explaining to Steam user on Steam forums such simple things is like throwing your pearls before swine, but I had free minute and felt like it was necessary.
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[TGSA] oujisan2236 2015년 2월 24일 오후 12시 57분 
Oddworld Admin님이 먼저 게시:
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥님이 먼저 게시:

After watching his little review on The Last Of Us, I can safely say this guy is a Nit with a capital Pick. I am choosing to just disregard opinions of others relating to this game. I love Oddworld too much to care about any of his points, however valid some of them may have been. I am just going to forgot every bit of footage I saw, and play it. Any true fan of this series will likely come to this conclusion just as I have.

That's our hopes, too. Criticism is great, but the vast majority of feedback on New 'n' Tasty has been super positive.

you'll get mine once i start playing it and then 40 hours later ill post a review
Shyfx 2015년 2월 24일 오후 1시 03분 
This is such a negative pile of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
N4CR 2015년 2월 24일 오후 6시 37분 
LOL jiesh the whinging is incredible! Devs commented that most of the feedback in that video has been addressed. Which is another reason why there is no pre-load. True fans of the series will appreciate what has gone in to this version.
People have not really seen the PC version yet, just compressed youtube video of it. Play the old one then watch the video, most of the stuff is a non-issue. Sound and animation smoothness for actions is probably the biggest, plus easily fixed (as devs have mentioned already...).
And to the cheap-asses, this is approx 20% of the price of the original game.
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Mur 2015년 2월 27일 오전 8시 24분 
As a Die hard fan of Abe's Oddysee i'm loving this remake, and what i like more is that the devs took into acount feedback and patched stuff like the old school controls or the sound mix, making most of the original video pointless. The only thing i agree with is that some animations are too fast, but it's a small flaw.

Also love the new secret areas, giving new challenges to people who already beated the original game.

Keep on the job and bring us abe's exoddus remake guys :D
goldgriffin360 2015년 2월 27일 오후 12시 16분 
hmm... Look Ive played and finished every single oddworld game except the gameboy games and I think this guy is being a bit petty. Yeah the atmosphere isnt quite right and the graphics are overbloomy, but are still foreign and fantastical. The visuals are nice to look at and the old games are hard to stomach now ( very low resolution ). There were going to be differences to a full 3d and prerendered game no matter what. I loved Abes oddysee on playstation and its sequel is one of my favorite games of all time, but those were $50 dollar state of the art major releases not $20 dollar budget titles. This game has done a good job imo ( not great I get it sheesh ) of updating and is priced properly. I as well prefer the originals, but nostalgia is strong with that reasoning, look that guy does have his points but things he went into were simply dumb, who cares about the mask of the sligs ( even oddworld inhabitants went with the aviator goggles for standard sligs for munches oddysee because lorn lanning thought they were better himself like that too apparently, if fact if go to oddworld wiki you will find that the original concept art for the slig had 2 eyes not a visor), oddworld games were never known for great responsive controls ( in fact were known for having ♥♥♥♥♥♥ controls ) only those who have memorized and mastered the old ways will really miss them at all ( Also the PC version has classic control options ), and even though the ending song is really bad , it just an ending song, it doesnt effect anything really ( The ending song to Castlevania Symthony of the night was worse and I think that game is a better game back then and still do )

People put the hate boner away it only makes you look stupid, acting like a mindless sheep swayed completely because you want to appear as some harcore gaming purist. ( What I mean is this guy is up his own ass, I doubt it smells good, why are so desperate to join him. )
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RariKendelty 2015년 2월 27일 오후 2시 18분 
I'm probably on the same page regarding New N' Tasty as some of you guys, the guy on the video just loves to nitpick everything and cry about how it feels so different from the original and blah blah.

My first game was actually Abe's Odysee and i've played it like a f'ton of times, i literally saved all mudokons on the remake solely making my memory guide me :D.

I love the atmosphere of the first game and i love how they remade it, feels like nowadays everything must be mauled to the ground and be called a piece of garbage, there's literally no middle ground when reviewing games. JAW and OI remade this game in the most beatiful way possible, my experience was one of the best of all my gaming life, seeing my first game ever be remade in 2014 graphics left a huge smile on me all the way through, bravo really, if i could kiss you i would :D

Yeah, bloom and the ending credits music could have been done better but the amount of work put on everything made these extremely minor details negligible. Here's hoping to an even better Exoddus remake!
The Real CHIM Shady 2015년 2월 28일 오전 6시 04분 
ITT butthurt fools who are out 20$.....

Btw only fools pre order....
Jester-Quinn 2017년 11월 4일 오전 1시 46분 
I know it's an old discussion but I have to say that I really hate this guy's videos. Every game he is critiquing, he just nitpicks and tires to support his opinion with BS evidence which usually makes no sense and can be generally summerised as "the reviewed game is not the same as the original and that makes it bad". Comment section is full of circle-j***ing people who seem not to like games and will agree with everything their master (Matthewmatosis) says, even if he said sth like "I don't like that this game is new" his subscribes would call it a "very insightfull and valid criticism".
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