Half of a Chapter like last time?

[gurkoz]

So, is this another one of those DLC's like last time where we only get like half of a zone and are forced to buy the other half?

I mean. I bought Summerset, that was great. Next time i bought Elseweyr (full price) but that was only half of that continent. To get the rest you where forced to pay as a separate DLC. I found it rather annoying to not get that included.

[Dr. Sinister]

Originally posted by gurkoz:

So, is this another one of those DLC's like last time where we only get like half of a zone and are forced to buy the other half?

I mean. I bought Summerset, that was great. Next time i bought Elseweyr (full price) but that was only half of that continent. To get the rest you where forced to pay as a separate DLC. I found it rather annoying to not get that included.

Oooh do tell what the other half of this content was. I'm curious because I bought Elseweyr and never had to buy anything else. Please. Enlighten me so I can go buy the rest of my content

[MightyJean]

Summerset was just the last piece of a narrative that started with Morrowind and was continued in Clockwork City, so it was actually worse.

[Vyrtualis]

Most likely. The zone is called "Western Skyrim", which leads me to believe that the Q4 DLC will be "Eastern Skyrim".

[Drake]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinister:

Originally posted by gurkoz:

So, is this another one of those DLC's like last time where we only get like half of a zone and are forced to buy the other half?

I mean. I bought Summerset, that was great. Next time i bought Elseweyr (full price) but that was only half of that continent. To get the rest you where forced to pay as a separate DLC. I found it rather annoying to not get that included.

Oooh do tell what the other half of this content was. I'm curious because I bought Elseweyr and never had to buy anything else. Please. Enlighten me so I can go buy the rest of my content

Dragonhold DLC.

Elsweyr chapter only has half the map of the geographical elsweyr region (the north side), dragonhold has the southern part, and the end of the story with the dragons.

It has become an habit now :
- winter : 2 DLC dungeons serving as intro for the quest.
- spring : chapter with the first part of the quest
- summer : 2 DLC dungeons continuing the quest
- Fall : the region DLC conluding the quest.

They're going to do this every year. Now do the maths and look at how much it costs for the player (compared to what it costs for zenimax to produce) to get all that instead of just having a proper expansion that would take 18 months to 2 years to produce.

While you don't have to take everything, if you want the full experience, you'll have to either sub (and still pay for the chapters) or buy all the DLCs.

As a comparison, gw2 that doesn't have a sub, is giving DLCs for free as long as you were playing at the time of their release (you only buy content you skipped or if you're a newcomer).

So yeah, that's standard zenimax/bethesda business plan, not really a fan.

[Roleplayer]

I bought the Elsweyr Expansion at full price (nearly $60) and found out without the Devs telling us that there would be two parts of Elsweyr. They advertised it as Elsweyr and we only got Northern Elsweyr. Anyways I'm rich in gold so I used the Tamriel Crown Exchange system to get Southern Elsweyr without using real money. In less than 2-3 months, the Elsweyr Expansion was on a constant discount spree like 3-4 discounts like come on. The content wasn't even worth that much for Northern Elsweyr; Southern Elsweyr had an amazing story but it was also garbage content as its mostly recycled and trash gear with the exception of 2 craftable sets.

Also its definitely going to be a separate regions because why wouldn't they want to milk us and with all that spacing in Tamriel's map. We literally have Markarth, Winterhold, Whiterun, and parts of the Pale to buy.

[Dr. Sinister]

Originally posted by PlayGame:

i always says no need to support them buy buying any chapter/DLC/eso plus. and there;s always fanboy like to pay and then complaint. its definitely not worth it even they provide u full map access. its too small content even include the 2nd half part that will soon be release as DLC. and their chapter always go less than half price after merely 6 mth, during winter sale. i even consider the half priced chapter not worth the price for the content u get. just pay your money else where, many games many good in real world even, is better than paying for lousy developer that never fix the game

See, that's the beauty of these things. You can support them and pay up front full price or you can whine like a petulant child for a few months then get the expansion(s) at a discount. It's a wonderful thing

[Oku]

Originally posted by Vyrtual:

Most likely. The zone is called "Western Skyrim", which leads me to believe that the Q4 DLC will be "Eastern Skyrim".

You realize right that “Eastern Skyrim” is already in the game and has been since launch, right?

[Dr. Sinister]

Originally posted by AarkTheDragon:

Originally posted by Vyrtual:

Most likely. The zone is called "Western Skyrim", which leads me to believe that the Q4 DLC will be "Eastern Skyrim".

You realize right that “Eastern Skyrim” is already in the game and has been since launch, right?

Don't even engage man. Unsub from the thread and let the children throw their temper tantrum

[Da Nut Crackah]

Personally, I am okay with "half a chapter" or more accurately I would call it, not the entire zone for a chapter. Northern Elsweyr is comparable to Summerset and Morrowind in size and scope, it may be a bit smaller than Summerset, but still comparable. Southern Elsweyr was like other zone DLCs like Murkmire or TG or DB, the size and scope of how theyve done the zone DLCs has changed a bit, but they are still decent sizes. Its also important to note, that Northern and Southern Elsweyr arent what make up the chapter, but they are both part of the year long story that was last year. Northern Elsweyr in and of itself, stands up as a chapter, even without Southern Elsweyr.

The problem with having a complete zone as a new chapter, there is no more stories they can tell through those zones afterwards, what are they going to do, make an underground area in a place that doesnt have one? Start having chapters take place in Oblivion? At least with Elsweyr there is room to tell more stories and add more content in the years to come. As long as a chapter has a zone with some interesting stuff to do, and tells a decent story, who cares if it is only part of a region? Because once they fill the entirety of the map of Tamriel, they are going to have to start doing some weird ♥♥♥♥ to add content. A lot of games have made entire new expansions with new content, by using the same maps, just slightly changed because of time and things that happened, and personally I think that sucks. I dont wanna see the same zone just a little different, I wanna go some place new.

Another very relevant thing is, replay value. After completing the content of the previous chapters, the only things I still do in them are the trials, event relative things, farming, and access guild stores. If they can add some content that I am still going to want to play besides those things mentioned, I consider it a success. The new excavations, harrowstorms, and blackreach seem like something I am going to be enjoying for the year to come, so I think its looking like a success already.

[lilac]

just because it doesnt include the full map doesnt mean its "half a chapter" lol. The chapter was called elsweyr and you got elsweyr. The map was huge and had lots of content. Your not forced to buy the other "half". You dont even buy it if you have eso plus. It seems like your just looking for something to complain about.

[ihoujin.]

Originally posted by gurkoz:

So, is this another one of those DLC's like last time where we only get like half of a zone and are forced to buy the other half?

I mean. I bought Summerset, that was great. Next time i bought Elseweyr (full price) but that was only half of that continent. To get the rest you where forced to pay as a separate DLC. I found it rather annoying to not get that included.

While it may only be part of the continent, you're still getting a zone that's about the same size as the previous chapters and just about as many hours of story gameplay. So the format of them splitting the story over a whole year just gives them a better chance to flesh it out right instead of it feeling rushed. There's also the fact that the two first chapters took place on island, so we got the islands. But this and Elsweyr are on the mainland, and the continents are way bigger as a whole. If they were gonna release the whole continent it would probably be way more expensive anyway.

[Diarmuhnd]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinister:

Oooh do tell what the other half of this content was. I'm curious because I bought Elseweyr and never had to buy anything else. Please. Enlighten me so I can go buy the rest of my content

Originally posted by Dr. Sinister:

See, that's the beauty of these things. You can support them and pay up front full price or you can whine like a petulant child for a few months then get the expansion(s) at a discount. It's a wonderful thing

Originally posted by Dr. Sinister:

Don't even engage man. Unsub from the thread and let the children throw their temper tantrum

So why are your feeding this thread with YOUR TROLLing?

Welp, I think I know; your a loyal toxic BETHETIC fanboi TROLLing the threads. CongRATs.
But you know 'they' still won't give you a new free ESO kitchen sink for your hard work.

[ihoujin.]

Originally posted by PlayGame:

Originally posted by Da Nut Crackah:

Personally, I am okay with "half a chapter" or more accurately I would call it, not the entire zone for a chapter. Northern Elsweyr is comparable to Summerset and Morrowind in size and scope, it may be a bit smaller than Summerset, but still comparable. Southern Elsweyr was like other zone DLCs like Murkmire or TG or DB, the size and scope of how theyve done the zone DLCs has changed a bit, but they are still decent sizes. Its also important to note, that Northern and Southern Elsweyr arent what make up the chapter, but they are both part of the year long story that was last year. Northern Elsweyr in and of itself, stands up as a chapter, even without Southern Elsweyr.

The problem with having a complete zone as a new chapter, there is no more stories they can tell through those zones afterwards, what are they going to do, make an underground area in a place that doesnt have one? Start having chapters take place in Oblivion? At least with Elsweyr there is room to tell more stories and add more content in the years to come. As long as a chapter has a zone with some interesting stuff to do, and tells a decent story, who cares if it is only part of a region? Because once they fill the entirety of the map of Tamriel, they are going to have to start doing some weird ♥♥♥♥ to add content. A lot of games have made entire new expansions with new content, by using the same maps, just slightly changed because of time and things that happened, and personally I think that sucks. I dont wanna see the same zone just a little different, I wanna go some place new.

Another very relevant thing is, replay value. After completing the content of the previous chapters, the only things I still do in them are the trials, event relative things, farming, and access guild stores. If they can add some content that I am still going to want to play besides those things mentioned, I consider it a success. The new excavations, harrowstorms, and blackreach seem like something I am going to be enjoying for the year to come, so I think its looking like a success already.

your explanation completely failed.
if summerset size is acceptable as a chapter, then why osinium size is DLC? all those chapter is too small to be considered as a chapter, look at how World of warcraft done with their expansion.
and those expansion can have story divided to few season along the 2-3 yrs time before next expansion release. its in same map and not necessity be a dungeon to continue tells the stories. it just how you make the map the tells the story.

Orsinium wasn't a chapter simply cause they hadn't started doing chapters yet. And yeah WoW might have a different way of doing things, but they also require you to both pay for the game, the expantions AND just to play the game you've already bought. Which is way more ridicolous.

[lilac]

Originally posted by PlayGame:

Originally posted by YahDakes:

just because it doesnt include the full map doesnt mean its "half a chapter" lol. The chapter was called elsweyr and you got elsweyr. The map was huge and had lots of content. Your not forced to buy the other "half". You dont even buy it if you have eso plus. It seems like your just looking for something to complain about.

another naive comment. in almost all other game, do their expansion provide u only partial content and u need to either pay to buy DLC or pay to sub ESO+ to access the remaining story of the same expansion name? name one game similar to this ESO concept. you guys certainly didnt understand what TS commenting.

It doesnt matter. Its just a name. Who tf cares. And again you dont "need" to do anything. Its your choice whether you want to buy a new dlc or not

[Vyrtualis]

Originally posted by AarkTheDragon:

Originally posted by Vyrtual:

Most likely. The zone is called "Western Skyrim", which leads me to believe that the Q4 DLC will be "Eastern Skyrim".

You realize right that “Eastern Skyrim” is already in the game and has been since launch, right?

It won't stop them from calling it that, you watch.