Dungeons and the "Your group has voted to kick you from the group"

[Karamell]

It's really starting to make me not want to play ESO anymore. Every time I wait 10 to 50 minutes for a particular dungeon and I am given a group, because my character is only Champion 151 ... there's that one dude who wants you gone and people just accept without reading it.

I get it, Veteran Dungeons are no joke. I don't ♥♥♥♥ around and I can hold my own with good DPS and tanking- but the issue is because in their eyes that i'm not 690, i'm going to hold them back. I'm tired of waiting to do these challenging dungeons just to get kicked. I can and have completed hard dungeons before, without any problems. Just tired of this feature that gets abused.

I'm not even going to include the fact when I am kicked, I am penalized and required to wait 15 bloody minutes to even que up for a dungeon again. Seriously ....

[KnowledgeCoffee]

Some people are elitist, you can beat vets at your cp... Yeah it takes longer.. But enjoy the game.. If you're not an asshat, me and my group will role with you. We are around CP 300

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Caramel Frappe a écrit :

Kyutaru a écrit :

Personal tip: Stop queuing for vet content. The gear you get doesn't matter because it will be obsolete again once you hit CP 160. The XP you get is less than you get from a normal dungeon because mobs die slower. There is no reason to be going for vet dungeons unless you're doing pledges to farm keys to use later and that you would do in a group instead of the random dungeon queue.

Stay out of vet until you hit cp 160.

Fair enough ... I just really wanted to get a shoulder piece that's unique (it's for a Monster Set) and the only way to get it is via Veteran Banished Cells II. I'll just farm up levels until I get 160 .... and since you seem an expert on this subject: Since i'm a DPS Mage, where can I get the stuff required to dish out good DPS?

Guild traders. There are many of them near Undaunted Enclaves.

[CelestialSlayer]

Ive been kicked, and like you I was being noobish about it. Now I have no intention of doing them until I am cp300. I think the game makes you think you should do them because as soon as you are cp the default dungeon finder setting is veteran. You are better focusing on normal and learning the mechanics. That way when you step up to veteran you won’t make an idiot of yourself no matter how good you think you are right now.

[Kolegator]

we've all been there, so don't worry.. in a few levels you'll get to cp160, get the stuff you need, gold it out, learn the rotation slowly etc. and trust me - you will see why people were kicking you until then.

especially when you get used to mow everything infront of you and then when you are just about to destroy everything in a dungeon, you get a crappy low level guy in your team that screws everything because either he cant tank properly so all aggro is on you, or a healer is incapable of healing so you die 10 times in a situation where you are not used to die at all; or you have a dd in the team that is pulling like 8k dps in a vet dungeon and makes every fight last 50% longer etc. etc. etc.

nobody hates you, it's just that you have to work your way up and you'll notice the difference

someone above said it's not the problem to survive but the problem is to do your role properly - and thats completely true.

the more you have to struggle to stay alive makes you put more effort in it and less in your role, which makes the group unbalanced

for example as a dd in a dungeon with a nice healer and a tank i dont use ANY shield or self-preservation skill/spell and can focus on my role and do really nice dps = everyone wins.

but when the tank is slacking or a healer, i cant go near without some kind of ward or surge to keep me alive when the mob starts focusing me, and ofcourse, using all that makes me do less dps which makes the fights last longer which leads to more possible deaths etc. :)

[ginseng]

no point of even attempting vet dungeons with 150 cp dude
you shouldnt even attempt them until you have double your cp bc unless u know what ur doing ur dps will be lacking severely

[ginseng]

to put this into hindsight i dont run vet dungeons with dps who dont pull 25k+

[The Sly Cat]

So don't register to vet content, or find a friends of CP level same as yours and do vets together (interesting how far you can go with full 100cp party)
You are obviously not geared and your DPS, i guess, is like 5-10k max. You can survive well (it's realy easy) but with your DPS you can't kill even mudcrab in ESO vet content. So what do you expect from registering to veteran dungeons? Be dragged by guys with DPS x5 higher than yours?

[ZeeHero]

Never an excuse for kicking people without some kind of explaination, and if you're a ♥♥♥♥ about it theres never an excuse period. Unless Vet dungeons were made significantly harder recently you don't need to be CP160+ to do them if you know what you're doing, and if that is indeed now the case, they need to STOP PEOPLE BELOW THAT CP LEVEL FROM GETTING INTO THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[Crixus]

It's not fair on others if your joining vet dungeons below 160 cp though. Your lacking gear and chances are most players under 160 will also lack skill.

Not only that but you can't trade gear so it's less chance for your group members to get what they want.

I have had so many bad experiences with being grouped with low levels when I'm trying to farm a set. Having to wipe over and over and sometimes having to quit the dungeon half way through. It's just too annoying.

[Yunalesca Darkfold]

Honestly i cringe when i see lower levels doing vets...just level up to a decent level then do vets ffs. The amount of times i have to carry a lame under leveler because they squish and do poor damage is insane and frankly annoying.

[ZeeHero]

Just pointing out being a jerk is never ok. no matter what level the person you have to kick is or how little dps or whatever they do. It's possible to nicely say "I'm sorry but you are not doing enough dps for us to be able to clear this, and we have to let you go" and if it's actually true then kicking him is ok.

[Happy Cake Oven]

KuraiNekoMT13 a écrit :

Bud I already don't want to play it anymore because they made a change where you need to pay to dye your armor and/or clothes (Not outfits/costumes those a diferent matter). It makes me not want to play because it worries me what other stupid changes ESO will make next that are just a huge disappointment.

Zeni making it so that motifs can be used to change your appearance without having to craft a set is *amazing*. It boggles my mind that you can't appreciate that. I absolutely love being able to customize my appearance in as many ways as possible, so this update is only a fantastic thing for me.

ZeeHero a écrit :

Just pointing out being a jerk is never ok. no matter what level the person you have to kick is or how little dps or whatever they do. It's possible to nicely say "I'm sorry but you are not doing enough dps for us to be able to clear this, and we have to let you go" and if it's actually true then kicking him is ok.

I don't like it when people are unnecessarily rude, but they also don't need to go out of their way to explain before kicking.

As for OP: Vet dungeons are supposed to be harder content. Being under 160 means you aren't correctly geared for them and you'll basically be forcing your group to carry you. I don't really understand why you simply don't do normals or gather mats and get a good set crafted... when you reach 160.

[GlacticaMO]

why play vet when u r not a vet yet, seriously

[ZeeHero]

GlacticaMO a écrit :

why play vet when u r not a vet yet, seriously:awkward:

And who decides that? Does Zenimax have some kind of hired arbiter to dub people "veterans" becuase if not, it's not for other people to decide, since everybody is never going to agree on exactly what the requirements are.

[Happy Cake Oven]

ZeeHero a écrit :

GlacticaMO a écrit :

why play vet when u r not a vet yet, seriously:awkward:

And who decides that? Does Zenimax have some kind of hired arbiter to dub people "veterans" becuase if not, it's not for other people to decide, since everybody is never going to agree on exactly what the requirements are.

Obviously the community has agreed and have been kicking this guy, hence him coming here and making this thread. Players can and do come up with a collective understanding of certain things when it comes to any online game.