Not a post I wanted to make

[shroomsam]

I've spent a few hours over the past days, enjoying a look at what we have coming. But today something happened that made me post this.
I was in VR sat in the Alfa, in the showroom, when I tried to switch to the Merc. Insta crash... Not a problem, the occasional crash is to be expected. However, now my PC won't start. And I have two red LEDs on my MB, one for boot and the other for VGA.
Looks like the game has fried my 3090.
I really didn't want to give any negative reviews. But how can I recommend anything that could possibly do the same to others?

[Cannibal300]

Wouldn't be the first time a game fried a graphics card by drawing too much power. I don't disagree that would be upsetting. To be fair, did you turn off your PC and now it won't restart, or did it fully crash/BSOD and then it wouldn't restart? Depending on the scenario, it may not be the game.

[Nebraska]

A game can't fry a GPU. Most probably your GPU couldn't handle temperature and workload due to bad maintenance (dust, bad airflow, hardware failure). In other words, while it's uncommon for software to directly damage hardware, a software crash could potentially exacerbate an existing hardware instability. The game workload demand has been the last piece of the puzzle.

[shroomsam]

There wasn't any issue with temps. I ran it undervolted to .825 ant it usually peaks around 75c in very intensive scenarios. I can play AC in VR for a couple of hours and check temps in Afterburner and it hasn't broke 60c. Case is about 2 months old and virtually dust free btw.
Edit; 4000d airflow

[shroomsam]

Originally posted by Cannibal300:

Wouldn't be the first time a game fried a graphics card by drawing too much power. I don't disagree that would be upsetting. To be fair, did you turn off your PC and now it won't restart, or did it fully crash/BSOD and then it wouldn't restart? Depending on the scenario, it may not be the game.

As soon as I pressed the button to switch cars, there was a click sound from the PC and my HMD went dark. Now it's F'd

[Draennon]

That sounds like less than critical temps. Under full load (which seems to happen half the time <.<), my GC seems to run at 80-85° and has no problem there. Usually the hardware just shuts down before it gets into critical temps anyway.

Assuming you already tried, but did you unplug and replug the GC and free your system of any lingering power? Had that solve issues of comps not starting more than once by now... Just unplug PSU/turn it off - hit power switch once to make sure, the system loses any excess and hook the PSU back up/turn it back on. May sound silly, but having witnessed and used that as a solution on a few occasions by now on reluctant systems... maybe that helps if you didn't already try.

Hope you can fix it without needing to get a new GC!

[GDUBMX]

Originally posted by shroomsam:

There wasn't any issue with temps. I ran it undervolted to .825 ant w.
Edit; 4000d airflow

This is likely the cause, unfortunately i had a similar thing happen with my 3070 undervolllted. in the end i put it back to default and it never happened again..
i have the same case and its been the best/coolest case i have ever owned in the last 20 years

[Tundr4]

Originally posted by shroomsam:

I've spent a few hours over the past days, enjoying a look at what we have coming. But today something happened that made me post this.
I was in VR sat in the Alfa, in the showroom, when I tried to switch to the Merc. Insta crash... Not a problem, the occasional crash is to be expected. However, now my PC won't start. And I have two red LEDs on my MB, one for boot and the other for VGA.
Looks like the game has fried my 3090.
I really didn't want to give any negative reviews. But how can I recommend anything that could possibly do the same to others?

before stating things like this, you should be absolutely positive, certain and sure, that it was not your fault or hardware issue.

[EAX]

It is unlikely that the game fried your GPU, most likely there was a manufacturing fault anywhere and that gave up at that point.

Like if a PC shuts down by any protection system of your (hopefuly) highquality powersupply unit and doesnt wanna turn on, thats just the sign of a shortcircuit, overvoltage or anything in that regard.

Usually well made GPUs easily last 8 years or more to the point, you just throw it away anyways due to lack of performance.

Back in the day ive had a brand new GTX780 and it fried in Far Cry4, just a bad card with bad connections on the PCB. Thats all there is to it.

You are most likely just unlucky in that regard.

Assetto Corsa Evo has triggered system shutdowns on my system aswell, then i figured that this may be a disfunctioning Bios on my Motherboard that i updated a while ago since i do own a Intel Core i5 13600K which seems to brick at some point according to latest news … so i went 10 versions backwards and voila, no more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behaviours of my pc rig.

Like literally exactly two games caused the issue and every other did not and after ACE came out and my PC did just that, i knew its my PC lol.
Sometimes things need a little while to understand.

[Roger Longkoch]

Originally posted by Cannibal300:

Wouldn't be the first time a game fried a graphics card by drawing too much power. I don't disagree that would be upsetting. To be fair, did you turn off your PC and now it won't restart, or did it fully crash/BSOD and then it wouldn't restart? Depending on the scenario, it may not be the game.

Don't be silly, modern PC's have thermal protection.

All he has to do is boot in safe mode and restore to a previous saved point.

[XIII]

Originally posted by Devils Never Cry:

Tbh I have no idea if software can fry graphics cards

It cant. A GPU from the hardware up is designed to take a certainy amount of power, cool a certain amount of heat and has many temperature sensors to downclock the GPU if it gets to hot.
The game has no control over those features of the GPU.

Same as the CPU btw. A game can put load on the CPU, make it go really hot, but the cooling/downclocking/safety of the processor is not touched by a game.

Eg there was rumors that "New World" was destroying 3090 GPUs. But turns out, the issue was that 3090 GPUs had manufacturing defects, and the games demand just made it appear for a lot of people. But theres also been many other games and benchmarks that destroyed these 3090s, they just werent as visible.

[Garfie1d]

I keep my 4090 running at 85 percent maximum. That prevents sudden CTD and other problems. It is not the games fault if your PC breaks down.

[shroomsam]

Right... I think the GPU 'might' be ok. But for now I don't have another rig to test it in. I have tried using the hdmi on the motherboard to see if I can get a post, and I'm still getting the same two fault LEDs lit, and no post.
Now I'm wondering, could my boot partition have been corrupted in some way? Would that light up the VGA fault led on the mb?
PSU is a Corsair 850w platinum.

[shroomsam]

Originally posted by Garfie1d:

I keep my 4090 running at 85 percent maximum. That prevents sudden CTD and other problems. It is not the games fault if your PC breaks down.

I wasn't pushing it that hard. Apart from the crash and failure to reboot it was running fine, cool, and with plenty to spare.

[XIII]

Originally posted by shroomsam:

Right... I think the GPU 'might' be ok. But for now I don't have another rig to test it in. I have tried using the hdmi on the motherboard to see if I can get a post, and I'm still getting the same two fault LEDs lit, and no post.
Now I'm wondering, could my boot partition have been corrupted in some way? Would that light up the VGA fault led on the mb?
PSU is a Corsair 850w platinum.

The fault lamps usually indicate a specific issue that stops the mainboard from continueing. Check your mainboard manual.

[goblueteam]

Well if your graphics card really died that is terrible,
the odd thing is on my amd rx6800 it doesnt even use the normal amount of wattage its lower than other games about 150-170 watts other games use 200-220 so there is def some kind of stuff going on with the GPU not being used properly not sure it could cause a card to burn up though.

have you tried taking the GPU out and turning the PC on, if it doesnt turn on still it could be your power supply or motherboard as well maybe even some other hardware that would be cheaper to replace than your graphics card.

try removing a stick of ram and turn the pc on too this will usually trigger the bios as it detects a hardware change and will turn off xmp and reconfigure timings. Ram can cause the boot problems and its not that uncommon to have a stick of ram fail and end up not being able to boot until you pull the bad stick out.

You could also try to reset the motherboard cmos by removing the battery on the motherboard while its unplugged, or theres sometimes a button or jumper pins as well somewhere on the motherboard.

PC problems suck I hope you can figure it out.