The Long Dark

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das Apr 21, 2018 @ 4:43am
Any advice on navigating without getting lost or losing your sense of direction?
Most of the time I am so lost. When I decide to move on to another shelter and walk for example half a day in what I think is a straight direction, I often end up where I originally started from.

I tried to use charcoal to map the places where I currently am, but then I have no idea which way is north and I still don't know where to go. Is there a compass somewhere in the game that I can pick up?

Btw, I have this problem in real life too. I have a hard time relating a map to the reality and get lost all the time when I have to go somewhere new. :(

Edit: Well, a compass wouldn't work. I also experienced the game works like this and that is fine. It adds to the survival element and makes exploring expose you to dangerous situations, just like it would in real life. The trial and error did make me believe I was doing something wrong, but the game IS challenging and wants you to be considerate, cautious, confused and patient, which is totally fine in hindsight.
Last edited by das; Aug 22, 2019 @ 11:50am
Originally posted by spwade666:
Sorry to hear you're not playing anymore. I think you found the right approach in learning the maps, but forgot an important part of the story. It was a magnetic anomaly or event that caused the problems we are trying to survive; a compass would be useless. For me it's this style of learn for yourself gameplay that raises TLD head and shoulders above the other offerings. The mapping option is useful in that it can give you a handy hint as to direction etc but only if you already know the area. I'm 1000 hrs plus, and can't see myself giving up soon; and I am totally lost in Timberwolf and HRV; so probably another 1000 there :steamhappy::steamhappy:
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mf187doubleg Apr 21, 2018 @ 4:56am 
With experience you will learn the maps :) matter of time.
SBlack Apr 21, 2018 @ 4:57am 
The map isn't meant for navigating in your immediate surroundings.

Learn the environment. In some areas it's easy to get lost when you turn around, but most of the time there are really a lot of clues around. Rocks, hills, snow berms to mark roads and paths, trees (especially fallen ones). You can develop routes to certain locations that way and stick to them.
No, there is no compass. As for not losing your sense of direction, I've played on most maps for so long now that I know almost every tree and I can use them as a reference. It's taken a while though.
das Apr 21, 2018 @ 5:09am 
Thanks for your responses. I see. Do you advise playing one particular map until you are familiair with it before looking at another map? So far I always chose random.
Last edited by das; Apr 21, 2018 @ 5:10am
gnusjunkie Apr 21, 2018 @ 6:16am 
If this aspect of the game is taking a while to click, then choosing one region to start with makes sense - starting out with routes using landmarks to get to your most important destinations, and building your familiarity from there. When that feels like ‘home’, and your survival is more secure, you can go through one of the transition zones and head into a new region to explore.

Also, don’t forget that you can also drop items that aren’t any use to you (cat-tail heads if you have lots of tinder, for example) to mark a trail or path. If you drop something, it will be there for ever - it might spoil but it will never blow away or get covered by snow (a bit counterintuitive, but handy for marking routes).
Nixonator Apr 21, 2018 @ 6:32am 
The moon rises in the east and sets in the west.
Frau Blücher Apr 21, 2018 @ 10:51am 
Some excellent suggestions above. I'll add a bit.

If you are having difficulty with relating map to reality, just don't use the map and become more familiar with your surroundings. Look about carefully and note landmarks, near and far. Get up high and get an overview of your surrounding area. The more you walk an area, the more your mind will take note of small things and give you an intuitive navigation.

To get some practice in orienteering down, try starting in the same map. Mystery Lake is a popular choice here because it is in general easy to navigate. Note where you are in relation to the railway tracks and explore branching paths from it looping back to it. You can even have a pilgrim run going just for looking about and exploring maps without much in the way of threats. A good way to get to know the regions. No shame in it, that's what pilgrim is for!

There's a number of ways you can keep your sense of direction:

Dead reckoning. Choose a landmark, one that is visible from a distance preferably and judge your location by your position relative to it. Make note of turns you make and about how long you've been walking.

Trail marks - drop some sticks or tinder plugs and make a rough arrow or chevron in the direction you are going, if you come back to the same spot, you know where you've been, and can find yur way back. Do it every so often, say when you cross a valley or when you make a turn.

Use the sun and moon - As mentioned above, they rise in the east and set in the west, you can figure out your cardinal directions easily this way and figure out in what direction you've been heading.

Make waypoints - similar to trail marks above, but keep note of how to get back to the last cabin/cave/car or other safe structure. If a blizzard whips up (the easiest and most dangerous way to get hopelessly lost) simply retrace your steps to that last safe place.
Lenny Rat Apr 21, 2018 @ 11:29am 
When I am in a new area and navigating between shelter, I collect stones and drop them in the shape of an arrow or straight line for general navigation back to where I started. In caves I will leave three rocks across the opening of any dead end so I don’t go there again.
earthmom Apr 21, 2018 @ 2:09pm 
If you get turned around picking up sticks try to locate your footprints and that can remind you where you came from and which direction you were going. If you get turned around when you've found a deer to harvest, before you stop take special note at which way his head is facing before you move from your straight line path.
Also good advice earlier to drop something. You can drop stones or cattails or relatively worthless items to mark a path. Once in a cave I was frustrated and going in circles so I dropped stones and they blended right in so I laid them in a --> :) it worked. I think in real life we would do that but in the game we sometimes forget that we can. (you can right click to lift an object up and left click to place it down to move things)
Dastan I wonder if you're finding that you're turned around in Pleasant Valley because that has been the worst place for me - I have left the farmhouse many times and wandered and end up right back at the farmhouse (shocking!) :D I think the steady blizzards in that region make it much harder to stay on a straight trek.
Last edited by earthmom; Apr 21, 2018 @ 2:10pm
clawsight Apr 21, 2018 @ 2:19pm 
Once you get 5 pieces of charcoal:

Map one point that will be your 'center'. Go one direction of it, in a straight line. Map that. Look at the map - is it north, south east or west of the 'center'? Once you have determined that direction turn towards it and note any landmarks. (Specific mountain peaks, ocean, etc) and write them down in your journal. Repeat for the other three directions.

Remember that you can journal both in 'general notes' and for specific days. Consider doing daily journals of what you have passed and what direction you were heading.

... and you can always go Old School computer gaming and grab a notebook and make notes there about specific directions. Draw specific mountain peaks that you know are north, south, east or west.

Between skylines, the map, charcoal, and the sun/moon you can usually figure out which direction you are moving in.

I like Coastal Highway to start games in because the ocean is pretty much always south. Makes figuring out where you are fairly easy.
marbanno Apr 21, 2018 @ 2:48pm 
tldr - skipped really but saw alot fo great suggestions. To add re:

Terrain like rivers, snow covered roads??, valleys, etc...oftentimess they meander to interesting places. At the very least, they keep you moving in one direction instead of circling.

Ouch I think I poked my eye!! Ever wonder why those fallen trees look so pointy?? I mean, if there was an eye poking affliction, then yeah, those pointy branches would really have a purpose....now I guess they just....point.

das Apr 22, 2018 @ 5:08am 
Wow, thank you so much for all your comments. What a nice community.

Last night I played a couple of hours on Mystery Lake and after a few deaths I started to get the hang of it. I payed more attention to the environment and didn't use the map anymore and used the train tracks and stones I left behind to orientate myself. The footsteps are very useful too. I didn't notice that before. Also I chose to not wander around when the weather was foggy or at nighttime. I survived for a week now and will carefully explore more of the map tonight. Thanks again!
Last edited by das; Apr 22, 2018 @ 5:11am
Včelí medvídek Apr 22, 2018 @ 5:26am 
I wuld add somethign to ML - even if you might feel opposite at beginning, in truth the map is quite small with several orientation points you can use.

What I use as oriention points - train going through middle of region is the major as I know the way it leads and it is easy see cables above trails form long distance.

Than there is forestry lookout and broken tower on opposite hill.

Unnamed pond with frozen river that go thorugh area and can eb seen from large distance - I am able to go form there to trapper hut jsut by memory evne in full snwoing blizzard.

On other side from trail is generaly jsut mystery lake itself with few ways around.

You jsut need to determine last orientation point from where you go and other you see/target.. than youa re able found your direction quickly.

And btw some story - I was lost yesterday near corner of map behind broken tower and logging camp. Moved in wrong direction than supposed (went on hill with no clear overview with hope to evade any possibel wolves) with both sptained ankles:p Just to realize it is somehow late and had to travel in incoming dark (whcihs not good Idea in general). However moonlight was nice and I found clear way up to broken tower and from there it was more obvious - and as bonus I discovered place with bunch of Brich saplings - hence I ahve now resources for 15 extra arrows... Would likely miss that place otherwise so its not always bad thing:-)
Last edited by Včelí medvídek; Apr 22, 2018 @ 5:30am
sallyparker237 Apr 22, 2018 @ 5:41am 
Drop a stick every few steps to make pathways
Austrian Painter Apr 22, 2018 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by mf187doubleg:
With experience you will learn the maps :) matter of time.
"Learning the maps" is actually detracting from the game experience I find. You're a crashed pilot stranded in Northern Canada. Seems weird you'd know the entire landscape below by memory.
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