Forlorn Muskeg Why?

[mlg2591]

I love the long dark and play survival on all the areas. My question, was Forlorn Muskeg a mistake map? All the TLD Veterans on youtube spend like 5 days max on the map and head elsewhere, never see long runs. I also see very little to no guides or writeups on this map. It seems like people avoid it. I must say I personally have no interest in the map I like alittle more POI, however I find the scenery beautiful and I can understand the purest wanting a map like this. My final question please let me if anyone has spend a long run in this area. I have spent some good runs in all the other maps even TWM, but Forlon Muskeg IMO could have been more?

[Cougarific]

Not sure what counts as a "long run" but I spent a good week or so here when it was first added to the game.

As mournfully lovely as it is, there are just too few amenities to make it worth a longer stay. No real "home" to speak of (who wants to sleep in a two-sided shed forever?), and getting anywhere is a chore due to the weak ice everywhere.

Use it for the Forge (and buttloads of Old Man's Beard Lichen if you need that) then head back to a more "civilized" map, is the only way to do it IMHO.

[listless]

It's the only map with a variety of locations specifically for players who want to live outdoors. One reason most players don't live there is simply because they don't play like that. Their campers spend most of their time inside, and FM's only got the one indoor location.

[Dread Arkive]

I would have loved to live there if it had a decent house. Now I'm just eager to try living out of that epic Hunting Lodge in the new map (it IS in Survival, right?). Always favored Trappers till I went there in Story.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by Dread Arkive:

I would have loved to live there if it had a decent house. Now I'm just eager to try living out of that epic Hunting Lodge in the new map (it IS in Survival, right?). Always favored Trappers till I went there in Story.

Yeah, Broken Railroad is in Survival. And it is ONLY accessed through FM right now.

@OP- Forlorn Muskeg was added last December. It does not have a ton of man made structures to live it. It does not have a ton of store bought loot, in any mode. It does have a forge- something many people said was too far away from ML, too long of a haul to make arrowheads. So, they got a region close to ML with a forge. Players who liked the harder maps wanted another one besides TWM. FM gives them that, with it's own particular terrain and wildlife challenges. It is also rich in natural resources- Rose Hips, Reishi, Cattails and hunting prey animals (as well as predators). Having a map that was more difficult, in its own way, than TWM made th hardcore players happy.

It is not my favorite map. I'm not that hardcore to really enjjoy it. But there are people who have spent 30+ days straight there and done well, with the caves, Spence and the Hollow Tree to camp in, and lots of kill-&-eat food running around. And now that Broken Railroad is in the Survival Mode, and FM the only map it currently attaches to, I'll be spending more time in FM (and likely dying there) as well. The map can be avoided, you do not need to go there. But it is nice for those who really want and like a total change of scenery. It has its own distinct personality. IMHO, this is a good thing. Even if the map usually kills me if I try to stay there for too long.

[JErosion]

im waiting for the day when we have enough sandbox maps that players will attempt speedruns going from one end of Great Bear to another, were some of the dead ends of sandbox will reconnect... like having a region extends the Great Bear highway north of Desolation point and also connects to Timberwolf via a cave or something.

[PowerOn]

In my last Sandbox I spawn and stay in FM 70 days, Stalker - only 1 wolf fight. The initial plan are try 100 days, but now with the Story mode update Cat Tail, Rishi, Oldmam's Beard spawn again.

My "home base" are in the cave in Marsh Ridge - the downsize of caves is the need of bedroll, since cloth for mending is very rare there.

Low on matches - 6 remaining, I move for the new region - Broken Railway (I am tired of Mistery Lake), find 12 matches and Magnificent Glass there.

But Broken Railway is hard to stay, very few Rabbits, don't see any Deer and my cocking level don't allow eat wolves.

The place has lot of deep trails for wolves hidden - see around 12 in various places. The Bear live in the cave across the stream.

The Shed is nice place for base, is outdoor and indoor - allow lit camp fire in indoor area (maybe bug).

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1104025660

Near the Lodge in the hill are a Rabbit area but see only 1 and 4 wolves in the lake in front to dispute then. At least the Lodge is good source of cloth for mending.

Around the Shed are usually 2 or 3 wolves, in the lake behind are 4. Now with 10 days there I need retreat for FM or starve - if the weather allow, since in Broken Railway blizzard came almost all days.

[Frau Blücher]

While I fully admit I've died in FM repeatedly, and have a long way to go before I can confidently say I can get through the map, I do love it. It's beautiful, haunting, harsh and punishing. I mean those in good ways.

It also completes a continuum - as one travels from DP to CH to ML to FM - one is going farther and farther from civilization. It's like you start the port - Hibernia, worth your way through town - Quonset, then move on to cottage country - ML - and finally end up in the bush. For survival lovers, the wild is the ultimate challenge and it's own reward.

While it lacks human-made amenities to please the players who don't see the point without, it is a very valid region and unique as the others. For those who just don't like it - you don't even have to visit if you don't wish to :).

So, it's many things - but very deliberate. I'm quite sure many TLD veterans you aren't watching or don't know are having the run of their lives because they crave the outdoor harsh survival experience. GELtaz has many videos which feature FM, some of his mini-series taking place entirely inside it.

[Frau Blücher]

Originally posted by JErosion:

im waiting for the day when we have enough sandbox maps that players will attempt speedruns going from one end of Great Bear to another, were some of the dead ends of sandbox will reconnect... like having a region extends the Great Bear highway north of Desolation point and also connects to Timberwolf via a cave or something.

OOOH interesting!

[AAAARGH!]

A quonset is a kind of prefabricated hut.

[David]

Challenge accepted! My next 'loper run I will start where I start, but will then as quickly as possible move to FM and see how long I can live there. I will need to stop in ML to get a magnifying glass though, and somewhere else for a hammer or I doubt it will be very long. :)

[carrielstout]

I admit I haven't played this map much and I don't like starting on it, like I once spawned in loper. But if I lived long enough to get enough cloth and sticks to make shelters, I think I might enjoy the challenge. There are lots of cattails, which is a must in loper and even stalker. But the lack of buildings is a minus. But, unlike TWM, it isn't as cold. I have bad luck with wolves the few times I've been on this map, as it is the map I've been the most unfortunate with. But no map in this game is perfect. If it isn't freezing, then there are wolves so there are advantages and disadvantages on all maps.

[IFIYGD]

There is a really nice, HUGE, hollow tree to set up camp in, with room for a bedroll and a campfire. Good shelter in a pinch, once you know where it is. On nice solid gound too, lol!

[mmille14]

I love that place

Come for the view. Stay for the freezing.

[PowerOn]

FM first 70 days without rifle - only find in BR:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1117965307

Instead collect soda cans, collect Cat Tails. :)