REMASTER resident evil 2 and 3

[Genesis 26]

capcom please do the remasters of resident evil 2 3 and code veronica, your fanbase is not only made up of new comers, THERE ARE ALSO FANS OF THE ORIGINAL GAMES WHO LOVE THE CLASSIC STYLE, please is impossible to satisfy the original fans with these reimaginings

[DessIntress]

While it would be nice overall, it is probably not possible.

In order for it to look and play like today's RE1, they would first need a remake that takes the whole thing to a higher level graphically and functionally.

A remaster only works with the existing material and that means, roughly speaking, that you can't get around all the edges, corners and bad lighting, but can only implement HD/4k textures and a few minor changes. That is also the main reason why remasters usually also contain the old bugs - Fast work without real passion or possibilities. So they leave as it is. At best, Capcom could make a port to the MT framework, as they did with CV for CVX HD. But that is a long way from RE1 quality as we can see with a console. (far far away)

The PS and DC titles do not offer much room for improvement, as such a thing was hardly conceivable back then. Otherwise, less than 10 years later, there would probably not have been a remake of RE1, but only a pure remaster and then the remake. (Currently it is the other way round: a remake with the same engine as RE0 (GC) and then years later a remaster of it for all the platforms like pc, xbox, playstation and so on)

[Genesis 26]

they already have the material ready animations locations and models, between the darkside chronicle and umbrella chronicle, if they want they can do the remaster like resident evil 1 and 0 a year and a half, capcom just needs to recreate the last missing locations, there is the advantage that those titles are remakes and also remasters, they are both, we asked for remakes and they have been reimagined, there is still the possibility with remasters fortunately, although I think they could make them like tomb raider, it would be easier just to recreate the 3d character models, However there is a lot of confusion, if they make them in re 1 remake style they will only be classified as remasters and not remakes, my God how confusing

[DessIntress]

Sadly, what you want is simply a remake. The old engine can't even handle that. So it has to be redeveloped, so to speak.

If they want to make it in the RE1 HD REMASTERED "style/quality", the version available on Steam etc., then they would have to call it a remake and not a remaster. There is a world of difference between the two words. RE1 is a remaster of a remake. Simple. And if they want to raise the old CV or even 2, 3 to that level, even if it is already very old, they would need a complete remake. Precisely because they have nothing useful to build on.

And btw: Reimagination is just an artistic word for remake. To check this, we just have to look up in the dictionary what a remake actually means in film and game. (In short: a redesign and reinterpretation of the story and the events are within the realm of possibility).
It's a marketing gimmick that a lot of people still jump on today.
Like: "Our game is not a remake, our game is a reimagination!" Sounds more interesting, different, somehow special...
That's also why 2, 3, 4 are officially sold in stores as a remake, precisely because they are one. Nobody forces a developer to make a 1:1 copy of the original when remaking a game.

[Genesis 26]

they are practically telling us that the classic style must never return, unfair, but from what we saw, it was better to opt for the 1.1 remakes, there would have been no problems of cut content with resident evil 2 or even with resident evil 3

[Shocker]

Here you go. Enjoy. https://www.gog.com/en/game/resident_evil_bundle

[Genesis 26]

everything is possible even with tomb raider they said it was impossible to do the remasters and then they did it, after they put the original games on GOG , waiting for capcom to do the same thing

[DessIntress]

I see you don't want to understand the technical aspect.
A completely different question that you would have to ask Capcom, and whose answer could ruin everything anyway, is whether the original source code still exists. The source code of many old games from that time is lost forever. In that case, a remake would be unavoidable. And when you consider that nothing has happened with the classics for over 20 years, unless a remake has been made...
That's a completely different thing than, for example, loading an ISO into an emulator/wrapper.

And because you always start with Tomb Raider.
The game has a completely different engine.
I'm also not aware of any statements that a remaster of it isn't possible.
But here too, they've basically only improved the textures and the lighting. That's what makes the biggest visual difference to the original. All in all, it looks more colorful and brighter, but not really that much "better". Typical remaster - which, by the way, is far from what you've described here for RE.

[Shocker]

Originally posted by Genesis:

everything is possible even with tomb raider they said it was impossible to do the remasters and then they did it, after they put the original games on GOG , waiting for capcom to do the same thing

I played through both the originals recently, and the remakes in the past years many times. You need to stop being such a fake fan.

[Genesis 26]

Originally posted by DessIntress:

I see you don't want to understand the technical aspect.
A completely different question that you would have to ask Capcom, and whose answer could ruin everything anyway, is whether the original source code still exists. The source code of many old games from that time is lost forever. In that case, a remake would be unavoidable. And when you consider that nothing has happened with the classics for over 20 years, unless a remake has been made...
That's a completely different thing than, for example, loading an ISO into an emulator/wrapper.

And because you always start with Tomb Raider.
The game has a completely different engine.
I'm also not aware of any statements that a remaster of it isn't possible.
But here too, they've basically only improved the textures and the lighting. That's what makes the biggest visual difference to the original. All in all, it looks more colorful and brighter, but not really that much "better". Typical remaster - which, by the way, is far from what you've described here for RE.

they only improved the textures and lighting, but are you blind? but have you seen that the models in tomb raider remaster are full hd high poly, lara croft's model also has facial expressions, the same thing could be done to the low poly characters of resident evil 1 2 3, and make them like the high poly models of FMV, they definitely still have the source code, the remaster trilogy of tomb raider was also made after a long time

[Genesis 26]

about what I was saying look what I found hahahahah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnsH3ljm5Dc

[Powellinho.72]

Originally posted by Genesis:

capcom please do the remasters of resident evil 2 3 and code veronica, your fanbase is not only made up of new comers, THERE ARE ALSO FANS OF THE ORIGINAL GAMES WHO LOVE THE CLASSIC STYLE, please is impossible to satisfy the original fans with these reimaginings

code veronica is getting a remake, strong rumours anyway

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

bring gog releases to steam with cheevos, cards and workshop

[bschaff2001]

You might be the only person in the world who yearns for the old, clunky and unresponsive tank controls of the original games to go along with fixed camera angles, so props for that. It was the best they could do at the time, but those games have aged incredibly poorly and are borderline unplayable today. I'm 41 and Resident Evil came with my PlayStation in 1996, so I'm old enough to remember and have played the series from the start. As DessIntress pointed out to you, it's very likely the source code is either lost to the sands of time or not available in its entirety - Command and Conquer Remastered ran into this exact issue. The devs said that they were only able to get part of the source code and that made for a challenging development process, so even if Capcom wanted to do a straight up remaster it would either be impossible or far more trouble than it's worth. Modern audiences would rightly completely reject the old gameplay because we have far, far better ways to do 3rd person action games now.

I'm about as big of a purist as they come, but the Remakes have been a complete game changer for this franchise, allowing them to realize the true vision of the games that they were unable to at the time because of the technical limitations. Resident Evil 1 is going to be brought to life in a way you could've never imagined as a kid when it gets its Remake, and I suggest you embrace and enjoy that.

[Genesis 26]

Originally posted by Sm0k3f47h3r:

bring gog releases to steam with cheevos, cards and workshop

going from the updated graphics of resident evil 1 remake, to the playstation 1 graphics of the original games is a downgrade in every sense, it's bad, I can't explain more than that, they don't satisfy like resident evil 1 remake does with the updated graphics, that's why we need resident evil 2 and 3 faithful in resident evil 1 remake style, a trilogy so you feel complete, playing ever and only this remake leaves you empty, incomplete, not 100% satisfied

[Genesis 26]

Originally posted by ZEUS:

I agree with you, we need remasters

👍 absolutely rigth