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Unsure how you got a command prompt to show at all times, but both before and after your post I was using RimSort, and neither times did it display a command prompt.
Because you have honestly zero idea what you're running. Nobody does, nobody will. RimPy is closed source, and relying on "well, if there WAS malware, someone would have sniffed it out, right?" is one of the dumbest ways of living life.
RimSort is open source so you know with certainty that you're not running spyware.
RimPy is not, and is developed by an unknown person (no online identity) with unknown intentions (why does he protect the source code? no clue, he refuses to explain himself, and actively crushes discussion on the topic).
Does this sound like someone you want to trust, especially on the internet, where trusting anyone implicitly is the first thing you learn NOT to do?
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Also, I just realized that RimPy actually is inferior in terms of build support - while RimPy only supports Windows and Linux (with poor build infrastructure and slow updates), RimSort produces accurate Windows, Linux (Ubuntu 22 + 24) and MacOS (Intel and ARM).
https://github.com/RimSort/RimSort/actions/runs/9983103039/job/27590067469
You can literally go and inspect the build process that formed the latest executable for any given release. You can't get any more open than that.
citation needed
there are many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many pieces of software in existence that are not open source.
not being open source does not automatically mean Chinese spyware.
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
The burden of proof is on RimPy now, not RimSort. Malware and spyware are heavily prevalent online, and the developer is from Russia, under duress by sanctions (check the Discord, I did my research). I am not attacking the developer of RimPy when I say this - people have the right not to release their source - but the country he is from is well known for attempting to attack and gain footholds by any means necessary in the countries the oppose (namely, the United States, in which I believe many RimWorld players are from).
The developer behind RimPy does not have much online presence (exactly zero right now, since they're been offline for more than 16 months), meaning no trust. He earns no money from his mod, meaning it is driven entirely by his self-interest.
With all of this put together, RimPy should not be trusted implicitly. It sits within a uniquely powerful and protected position in the modding community, having more privilege on computers than most mods ever do.
I repeat again, the burden of proof is on them. Just because nobody has found malware yet does not mean we should give up on security and just let things fly. CurseForge did that for years, and then they were hit by one of the most infectious and concerning viruses in the gaming community.
If you want to prove me wrong, tell my *why* we should trust RimPy. Hint: The answer is not 'because everyone else trusts them'.
https://github.com/trigram-mrp/fractureiser
no it's not. you making an accusation doesn't compel them to do anything at all.
the developer living in a warzone and thus not being available is in no way, shape, or form evidence of a problem
show evidence that there's a problem. any evidence will do.
suspicious traffic while you were monitoring it? anything? at all?
I have no reason to trust RimPy, nothing the developer does tells me that they're going to protect me, the community, or anyone but themselves.
No, being unavailable is not evidence of a problem, it's evidence that RimPy had lower priority than other things in their life. That's true of almost everyone, but it shows weakness in their project, and the maintainer behind it. It shows that there is not definitive TRUST.
Yes, living in a country at war, well known for exploiting their citizens and hacking is not proof of malignant intentions - but there is no proof that they're providing a safe, pure application.
It is YOUR choice to ignore all of this, wave your hand, and declare them as free of suspicion. But you cannot deny that RimSort has better developers, better trust, and is beginning to show a far better historical timeline than RimPy.
All of the major developers of RimSort have online profiles, proper names, and are transparent. RimSort is continuously updating, showing commitment and honor towards the original goal: a mod manager for RimWorld.
And RimSort, as I have touted a dozen times before, is open source, which essentially eliminates the burden of proof.
How anyone can compare these two and decide, "Yeah, RimPy seems like a great choice. Let's trust the Russian-developed closed source app developed by an anonymous individual!". Oh my god, we deserve it if RimPy really does have malware.
ps: most folks run virus protection and a firewall (both of which could provide evidence of this supposed problem that could then be shared). they actually come built in for Windows these days, which means most users. if you're not, I definitely recommend doing so.
Rim.py doesn't even send up a false warning that you have to talk yourself into skipping. Thus, we DO actually have a large quantity of evidence that there are no issues with it: it has been scanned, and scanned, and scanned, and scanned. At this point, it's reasonable to think that every antivirus platform has reviewed it.
It has existed behind firewalls for however long it's been since the last update with no inappropriate attempts to communicate on any of these computers with firewalls.
How long did it take them to catch what happened with Minecraft and Curseforge? How was it caught? Do you know the answers to those questions, and do you understand how those answers are actual proof as to why there *isn't* a problem with Rim.py's current build?
this is really bad advertising for RimSort btw. like, really bad. it's gonna be known as the program whose fans need to make up random accusations (China! Buzzword! Russia! Squeal!) about other programs to get people to use it. that is not a good reputation to have. people will turn their noses up at this type of attitude.
Our modding siblings across the pond deserve our compassion right now, not our random accusations they can't even answer because WARZONE.
I refer you to your own statement:
I know for a fact that you've never looked twice at RimPy. No one does. Everyone installs it, assumes the worst could never happen, and goes on with their day. After all, you just assume virus scanners are all knowing god software that can detect anything malicious.
The best way to deal with viruses is not install them. I run Windows Defender and nothing else, because in all my time on the internet, playing with viruses always ends badly. No software can protect you from all of them.
Virus protection and firewalls don't mean squat - they only protect against known threats and typical entrypoints. It's funny you bring up Fractueriser after saying that, because Fractueriser didn't appear on Virus scans until AFTER it was formally detected and reviewed by major companies.
Why do you think it was able to spread for so many weeks?
You're literally proving your own argument incorrect: you say that virus scanners are the reason why we know it's not infected, and then you bring up Fractueriser, a virus that WAS NOT DETECTED. In fact, it took several weeks before anything was caught, and probably only because Fractueriser was way more flagrant and dangerous than it needed to be.
I don't really give a damn what kind of reputation you think I'm capable of imparting on a project, because RimPy is dead anyways. Their competition is gone. But thank you for informing me of the great many impacts I have on the world, it's nice to know somebody has confidence in me. :)
I have no compassion for Russians while Ukraine burns. Your holier than thou attitude bores me, and you are unwilling to cede a single point towards understanding me.
/shrughands