Can my pawns wear clothes under marine armor?

[Hottox]

I wanna deck my pawns out in marine armor with assault rifles because my crafter is over level 20 (mods) so he can create super good gear, but im a little concerned about temperature. We reach about -20 degrees in the winter, and if we get hit with a heatwave it can go up to 50 degrees. Im pretty sure marine armor can't protect them from super cold and hot temperatures. Can i give them maybe parkas or dusters under the armor to help them out?

[Cellar_Cat]

Only 'skin' layer clothes go under marine armour, e.g. pants and button down shirt.

[who_stole_my_name]

I use warmer power armor, because it makes more sense that highly advanced power armor has some build in heaters

[Makeithappen]

It is a balancing feature I feel for the game to limit the amount of heat and cold threshold gear has. If you are concerned about heat, the Phoenix armor is what you are looking for to get protection against heatstroke. Base value of Insulation is 100.0C.

But just craft a higher quality set of recon, cata, or marine for better insulation for heat and cold.
I think the only time you are going to have issues with the cold where the armor might not help is on an ice sheet in the winter. Close to or around -80.0 C. In that case you can repair your base from inside your walls and wait the enemy out.

(They will eventually get frostbite and leave or collapse. I haven't played on an ice sheet yet so I'm just assuming how the AI in the game would behave.)

[Henry of Skalitz]

Originally posted by Bookercatch:

(They will eventually get frostbite and leave or collapse. I haven't played on an ice sheet yet so I'm just assuming how the AI in the game would behave.)

If the temperature is too cold (or too hot) for the human raids to come they won't come in the first place, instead you'll only be attacked by mechanoids as only they can withstand the temps.

[Metrod125]

Rimworld's apparel system is complex, but here's the shortened version:

A pawn has 3 layers of apparel.
Skin, Middle, and Outer

T-shirt and pants are Skin layer, and cannot be worn with other Skin Layer clothes e.g cant wear tribalwear with a t-shirt.
A parka is Outer layer clothing, and can be worn over anything that does not occupy the Outer Layer.
Marine Armor is Middle and Outer layer, thus occupying both layers at once and cannot be worn with a parka (or similar) outer layer apparel, but does not occupy the Skin layer, meaning you can wear a t-shirt and pants underneath the armor.

If you want to keep your soldiers/combat centered pawns safe during extreme temperatures, you need to craft high quality skin layer clothes out of materials better than cloth/plainleather.

[Steelfleece]

Originally posted by ᲼⁧⁧Santa Fish:

Originally posted by Bookercatch:

(They will eventually get frostbite and leave or collapse. I haven't played on an ice sheet yet so I'm just assuming how the AI in the game would behave.)

If the temperature is too cold (or too hot) for the human raids to come they won't come in the first place, instead you'll only be attacked by mechanoids as only they can withstand the temps.

Also depending on the storyteller, manhunter packs. Manhunting thrumbos love the cold. And our crafters love thrumbofur. So much more luxurious than raider leather.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by Hottox:

We reach about -20 degrees in the winter, and if we get hit with a heatwave it can go up to 50 degrees. Im pretty sure marine armor can't protect them from super cold and hot temperatures.

It can, marine armor is a very good insulator. Normal quality marine armor adds -36C to minimum temperatures, and +12C to max temps, a 50C heatwave with nothing else equipped will be a bit uncomfortable but should be fine. Legendary marine armor basically doubles those numbers and is good enough for all but the most extreme of extreme maps.

You can wear skin layer clothes underneath as mentioned, usually you don't have to worry about the insulation value of these because of what I said above, but on very hot maps devilstrand (or camelhide/panthera fur) tribalwear will add another +13-20C to max temps.