Suggestion: Boxer 12 cylinder

[Son Of Perdition]

The beautiful cursed engine that is the 12 cylinder boxer has been tried a number of times that could be counted on one hand. Still, something so absolutely wondrously horrendous should exist in the game. It is my one want. More than turbo reworks or more body types. I need it to feel complete in my life.

Plz Devs, Boxer 12 when?

[Swartkin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh cagliostrofriedchicken:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Swartkin:

Boxer 8 are in the list too iirc

i remember finding i2, v4 and i8 sounds in the game files. no b8 though

So i may be confusing the b8 with the i8

[NurturantQuasar]

I wAnT nInE tHoUsAnD cUbIC iNcH iNliNe 1

[Son Of Perdition]

Diposting pertama kali oleh NurturantQuasar:

I wAnT nInE tHoUsAnD cUbIC iNcH iNliNe 1

It would be a blessed engine

[Remmelnator]

V1>>>>>>>>I1

[Swartkin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Remmelnator:

V1>>>>>>>>I1

boxer1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[barracuda-rostigraben]

The I7 is the superior engine, FACT.

[Killrob]

Now someone needs to explain to me why anyone would want to make a Boxer-12 instead of a Flat-12? Smoothness being the entire point of the Boxer engine, how would that benefit a Flat-12 configuration in the first place (that already is silky smooth). It would just make it a lot heavier.

[Son Of Perdition]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Killrob:

Now someone needs to explain to me why anyone would want to make a Boxer-12 instead of a Flat-12? Smoothness being the entire point of the Boxer engine, how would that benefit a Flat-12 configuration in the first place (that already is silky smooth). It would just make it a lot heavier.

Well, for my intentions of mimicking the Subaru 1235 a flat-12 is actually the accurate type.

But gameplay wise, familiarity would be a reason.

Person wise, for the same reason one would opt for a V-16 over a V-12, because it's just more ridiculous

[Espio]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Killrob:

Now someone needs to explain to me why anyone would want to make a Boxer-12 instead of a Flat-12? Smoothness being the entire point of the Boxer engine, how would that benefit a Flat-12 configuration in the first place (that already is silky smooth). It would just make it a lot heavier.

Hello Killrob, Flat 12 is 180° V12 with shared crankpins, whereas Boxer 12 has all 12 cylinders on own crankpins. I feel Boxer 12 would be smoother than Flat 12 which has shared crankpins.

[robert.norgren]

A Boxer 12 would rattle apart,the flex would kill it.
A automotive crank can only have 8 crankpins. (I8 V16 B8)
Only huge marine or industrial engines have more than 8 crankpins.
Look at a modern Porsche crank, the piece between each main pin
and the crankpins is a thin plate, there is no way that can be made as a Boxer 12.

[Swartkin]

There were any production car with a flat 12? Ik ferrari and porsche used it for race cars

[robert.norgren]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Swartkin:

There were any production car with a flat 12? Ik ferrari and porsche used it for race cars

Ferrari 512 BBI and Testarossa.

[cagliostrofriedchicken]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Swartkin:

There were any production car with a flat 12? Ik ferrari and porsche used it for race cars

ferrari did use them for a good while, from 1973 to 1996 iirc.

[Swartkin]

So there were some cars, but i don't think we will get a flat 12 any time soon if ever, but i will keep my hopes up for i8 and v4

[Killrob]

I know the difference between a flat 12 and boxer 12 :P I think we're talking past one another here. And no, I highly doubt a boxer 12 would be smoother to an extent that you can feel. After all, you're combining two (perfectly balanced) I6s here and make them fire 180 degrees apart, nothing unsmooth about that.

What robert.norgren is saying is true to the extent that it must have a well-design harmonic damper in order to not explode itself at high revs.

Overall I think that a boxer 12 is just overall inferior to the flat 12 because its main advantage (smoothness) can't improve the engine to a significant degree in this case. Flat 12 is on the list of maybe engines, boxer 12 would be a big fat No. :P