Front/Rear brake force is high compared to grip

[nickandjess2008]

how the heck do I fix this?!?

[nickandjess2008]

any help would be GREATLY appreciated, thank you in advance

[RiftHunter4]

This warning is really only valid for cars without ABS braking systems.

You can fix it by lowering your brake pad value towards "comfort", using smaller brakes, or changing the front/rear brake power distribution. You can also add more weight to the car by choosing different trim options or chassis materials.

[nickandjess2008]

I have ABS on it. The car goes out of control when I hit about 70, I beleieve. Idk how else to fix it. Thank you for your feedback, though. That is what Automation said as well, but, I guess I just can't find the right ratio... Thank you again!

[Boudewijn]

Try:
-Getting worse brakes (disc > drum for example)
-Smaller brakes
-Less pistons
-Lower pad type
-Increase grip

You might then run into brake fade problems.
For fixing brake fade, you want large discs, with a small amount of pistons. Dont use drum brakes, and use vented for the front. It's also smart to balance the brakes. Try looking at the graph, and keep the force/grip relation rougly the same. Make the power like 1.2 times as big as the grip, for example. Try to keep the front more powerful compared to grip. You can do this by changing brake type, size or pistons. If you get too much brake fade changing that, change the brake balance.
What do you mean with "the car goes out of control when I hit about 70"?
Is this while braking? Or steering? Or just accelerating?

[nickandjess2008]

just accelerating, it starts to drift to the right. thanks for the tips, i will see what they do.

[Boudewijn]

Originally posted by nickandjess2008:

just accelerating, it starts to drift to the right. thanks for the tips, i will see what they do.

Most automation bodies have some lift in the rear in beamng, which will make cars extremely instable at higher speed. Add a wing(no spoiler or diffuser) at the back of the car, and use at least 30 wing angle in the rear.

[Usagi]

Originally posted by Boudewijn:

Most automation bodies have some lift in the rear in beamng, which will make cars extremely instable at higher speed. Add a wing(no spoiler or diffuser) at the back of the car, and use at least 30 wing angle in the rear.

As far as I know the Aerodynamic sliders do nothing when converted to BeamNG. The actual shape and angle of the wing is what makes the difference..

I have one mod that includes the angle on the wings icon, hopefully more modders will start doing this.

[Boudewijn]

Originally posted by Epic Fail Guy:

Originally posted by Boudewijn:

Most automation bodies have some lift in the rear in beamng, which will make cars extremely instable at higher speed. Add a wing(no spoiler or diffuser) at the back of the car, and use at least 30 wing angle in the rear.

As far as I know the Aerodynamic sliders do nothing when converted to BeamNG. The actual shape and angle of the wing is what makes the difference..

I have one mod that includes the angle on the wings icon, hopefully more modders will start doing this.

I didnt test it, but according to strop, if you have it at like 20 degrees or lower, and you hit a bump, or something, you can get lift instead of downforce.

[nickandjess2008]

well, thanks for the ideas everyone, i will try all these out and see if they help. I would love to know what mod that is and I will get that, thanks again and I will let you guys know what works.
I have heard before, on another discussion, that beamng or automation cars are very light in the rear and you tend to need a wing in the back, don't know if that is true or not...
anyways, thanks!

[Usagi]

Originally posted by Boudewijn:

I didnt test it, but according to strop, if you have it at like 20 degrees or lower, and you hit a bump, or something, you can get lift instead of downforce.

Well it turns out I was partly wrong, the downforce sliders do affect the car, Though the actual values the game gives are not accurate.

For example I made multiple clones of the same vehicle and the sliders did add more downforce both in automation and in beamNG. However, on one of the test cars I made the rear wing super huge and even though automation calculated it only added 1kg of downforce, in beamng I lost 30mph and the rear of the car was bottoming out..

So in conclusion I would say the sliders only add downforce on top of what BeamNG is calculating in game based on the actual physical shape of the car and its aero.

[nickandjess2008]

So, another question I was going to ask everybody is this:
I saw, on another car in the workshop, the PERFECT grille for an Aston Martin and I was wondering where, or if, anyone knew where it was in the workshop. Just curions. It was a grille for an Aston Martin DB11. Thanks for any/all help anyone can provide.

[nickandjess2008]

The car I am talking about is in Beamng. You go to the mods part in the game, and go to the Automation tab. I typed in Aston Martin and it came up, along with some others, but I will find it and put exactly what it says, so that anyone/everyone can see what grille I am talking about.

[nickandjess2008]

It is called--- Totally Not an Aston Martin--- I really want that grille if anyone knows where I can find it at. Thank you, everyone!

[Boudewijn]

Originally posted by nickandjess2008:

So, another question I was going to ask everybody is this:
I saw, on another car in the workshop, the PERFECT grille for an Aston Martin and I was wondering where, or if, anyone knew where it was in the workshop. Just curions. It was a grille for an Aston Martin DB11. Thanks for any/all help anyone can provide.

Originally posted by nickandjess2008:

The car I am talking about is in Beamng. You go to the mods part in the game, and go to the Automation tab. I typed in Aston Martin and it came up, along with some others, but I will find it and put exactly what it says, so that anyone/everyone can see what grille I am talking about.

Originally posted by nickandjess2008:

It is called--- Totally Not an Aston Martin--- I really want that grille if anyone knows where I can find it at. Thank you, everyone!

Why make 3 comments, just edit the first one.

The grille might be in the "Shameless clone - Grill Pack"

[nickandjess2008]

Just saw the edit button, I guess i am not that smart. Thanks for that. I will try that and see what comes up. Thanks for the response.