So, about those Analects...

[Azakun]

**If you're not yet on chapter 11, I don't recommend reading this if you don't like spoilers**


I've been reading some of those Pulsian Analects and I got curious because they mention an entity named "Lindzei", and that he or she somewhow crafted Cocoon. Instantly, it came to my mind that talk with Cid and he explained why the fal'Cie want Cocoon destroyed so they can bring back their Maker. But those same Analects mentions another entity called "Pulse", and it seems that the Pulsian citizens praised him as their Maker. However, none of the fal'Cie mentioned any names about who their creator might be...

So, who is the real Maker here? Lindzei or Pulse?
Is it possible that it is actually two Makers?
I understand that Cocoon fal'Cie can't choose l'Cie to destroy Cocoon, but if Anima wants Cocoon to be destroyed and the Maker to come back, is he waiting for Lindzei? Pulse? Both??

I appreciate if someone could debate this with me. Also, sorry for any english mistakes!

[talgaby]

It's, like most mythology, is WAY more complicated. If you are really interested, here is the wiki article on it:
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Fabula_Nova_Crystallis:_Final_Fantasy#Mythology

[Purplefairy22]

Bhunivelvza is the real deitey/maker.
isn't lindzei a serpent? a pulse legend to explain the "swarming nest of vipers" that is cocoon.
what i found quite interesting is that Ragnarok is drained of power by Etro and she's the one who puts l'cie into crystal.
coocoon falcie and pulse falcie are both after the same thing. i expect they "work" together to create l'cie to destroy coocoon, why else can barthandulas travel so freely back and forth from coocoon to pulse.

[Azakun]

Originally posted by talgaby:

It's, like most mythology, is WAY more complicated. If you are really interested, here is the wiki article on it:
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Fabula_Nova_Crystallis:_Final_Fantasy#Mythology

Well, that was really enlightening, thanks! However, it doesn't explain why did Pulse and Lindzei left Gran Pulse and Cocoon...

[nana77]

This maybe piqued your interest regarding the lores:
http://thelifestream.net/forums/showpost.php?p=395728&postcount=12

[Azakun]

Originally posted by Purplefairy22:

Bhunivelvza is the real deitey/maker.
isn't lindzei a serpent? a pulse legend to explain the "swarming nest of vipers" that is cocoon.
what i found quite interesting is that Ragnarok is drained of power by Etro and she's the one who puts l'cie into crystal.
coocoon falcie and pulse falcie are both after the same thing. i expect they "work" together to create l'cie to destroy coocoon, why else can barthandulas travel so freely back and forth from coocoon to pulse.

Maybe that's why Fang's l'Cie brand is different! But I'm curious about how destroying Cocoon could call Pulse and Lindzei back

[talgaby]

Blood sacrifice for the gods. Gods seem to love things killed in their name.
But the actual explanation was that so many deaths at once would have flung open the gates of the afterlife/purgatory, so their apparently dead gods could come back from there.

[nana77]

Originally posted by otavioasilva:

Maybe that's why Fang's l'Cie brand is different! But I'm curious about how destroying Cocoon could call Pulse and Lindzei back

It's different (well, 'incomplete' or 'broken', to be precise) because waaaaaay back on the War of Transgression where Fang transformed into Ragnarok, Etro stepped in changed Fang back. Her (and by extension Vanille's) focus was incomplete, but because Fang is the one who transformed into Ragnarok, her L'cie mark is the one that changed. Why were they becoming crystal is something I kinda forgot; if I remember correctly, that's because simply they just couldn't finish the Focus because of Etro's sudden involvement, thus "welp, just standby by becoming a crystal for a while. We'll wake you gals up when we're ready." by the Fal'cie(s).

[Azakun]

Originally posted by nana77:

This maybe piqued your interest regarding the lores:
http://thelifestream.net/forums/showpost.php?p=395728&postcount=12

From what I could understand, the true reason from all this War Of Transgression and the destruction of Cocoon is to open the door to this Unseen World, because that is the true Focus of all l'Cie and fal'Cie?
By this, I can speculate that Pulse and Lindzei could actually find the door to the Unseen World and have completed the task given by Bhunivelze, but they couldn't find a way to return. So, if they come back they can awake Bhunivelze. But as said Mwynn, death is a part of all the cycle of life and is the fate of all living things, maybe she revealed to Pulse and Lindzei how their task was actually useless? And is Bhunivelze going to destroy her anyway, just trying to prove he is right? Maybe Lindzei, Pulse and Etro could put some sense into his mind...