Triss's voice actress...epic fail. (Spoilers)

[sup2069]

I remember seeing these threads pop up back around launch and hadn’t read for the sake of spoilers. Forgot about it all until I reached the first encounter :( Not sure what happened, but the actress’s heart doesn’t seem to be in it. The delivery feels weak for those of us who felt the performances of the past Trisses. Sorceresses in the Witcher world are cunning, manipulative, scheming, powerful masters of the tongue and get what they want (long term planners, think Senator Palpatine). This current Triss doesn’t fit the role after her line deliveries giving to a false believability of having this stature. What a shame :\


Edit: Saw spoilers crop up, no worries, title edited.

[Grey Lensman]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Fat Rat:

I never read the books, but how old can witch be, i never heard in the game about that, i know Geralt is close to 100 years, as vesemir said in the beginning. I always picture yenefer as close to 40, a very beautiful 40 :) and triss like, idk... 30.

In the books it is said Yen was a hunchback who used magic to sculp her current youthful looks. but it also states it is somwhat of a rumour. I'd have to find the chapter in the book to comfirm that though, its been a while since i read the books.

(It is implied in the story "The Last Wish" that her attractive looks were a product of magic and had been acquired during her training, as with most other sorceresses. Geralt notes how her shoulders are slightly lopsided and by the end of the story realizes that Yennefer used to be a hunchback. Nevertheless, his love for her does not diminish. )

[Big Rat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tony:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Fat Rat:

I never read the books, but how old can witch be, i never heard in the game about that, i know Geralt is close to 100 years, as vesemir said in the beginning. I always picture yenefer as close to 40, a very beautiful 40 :) and triss like, idk... 30.

In the books it is said Yen was a hunchback who used magic to sculp her current youthful looks. but it also states it is somwhat of a rumour. I'd have to find the chapter in the book to comfirm that though, its been a while since i read the books.

I dont like that thought lol :)

[Big Rat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tony:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Fat Rat:

I never read the books, but how old can witch be, i never heard in the game about that, i know Geralt is close to 100 years, as vesemir said in the beginning. I always picture yenefer as close to 40, a very beautiful 40 :) and triss like, idk... 30.

In the books it is said Yen was a hunchback who used magic to sculp her current youthful looks. but it also states it is somwhat of a rumour. I'd have to find the chapter in the book to comfirm that though, its been a while since i read the books.

(It is implied in the story "The Last Wish" that her attractive looks were a product of magic and had been acquired during her training, as with most other sorceresses. Geralt notes how her shoulders are slightly lopsided and by the end of the story realizes that Yennefer used to be a hunchback. Nevertheless, his love for her does not diminish. )

well i guess she have more experience...if you get what i mean :)

[Grey Lensman]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Fat Rat:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tony:

In the books it is said Yen was a hunchback who used magic to sculp her current youthful looks. but it also states it is somwhat of a rumour. I'd have to find the chapter in the book to comfirm that though, its been a while since i read the books.

(It is implied in the story "The Last Wish" that her attractive looks were a product of magic and had been acquired during her training, as with most other sorceresses. Geralt notes how her shoulders are slightly lopsided and by the end of the story realizes that Yennefer used to be a hunchback. Nevertheless, his love for her does not diminish. )

well i guess she have more experience...if you get what i mean :)

Some nice backstories to the characters here if you have not yet read the book, which will give you a better understanding of who you're dealing with :)
http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Yennefer

[Maskeno]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mumm-Ra:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von sup2069:

I remember seeing these threads pop up back around launch and hadn’t read for the sake of spoilers. Forgot about it all until I reached the first encounter :( Not sure what happened, but the actress’s heart doesn’t seem to be in it. The delivery feels weak for those of us who felt the performances of the past Trisses. Sorceresses in the Witcher world are cunning, manipulative, scheming, powerful masters of the tongue and get what they want (long term planners, think Senator Palpatine). This current Triss doesn’t fit the role after her line deliveries giving to a false believability of having this stature. What a shame :\

Yes its terrible, she sounds like some country bumpkin instead of a sophisticated upper class aristocrat. I mean she has lived a long time and is used to the trappings of luxury. I think Keira Metz pulled it off best.

American accented people sound like country bumpkins eh?

lol Kidding, but almost not really. I found all of the sorceresses to be entirely too pretentious. It would have reaaaally upset me if all of the viable romance options were snobby, self important bit- witches *ahem*


I think the fact that we can even all have a discussion about Triss where opinions differ widely speaks volumes to her depth as a character. Where I also agree the some of the other sorceresses, like philipa, were horribly 1-dimensional. That was a common theme I found however with a lot of the villains in this game, ESPECIALLY the leader of the wild hunt. His most dramatic line of dialogue in the entire game is "The king is dead... Long live the king" I actually got excited at the proposition of Avallach being a traitor, as cliche as it would have been, it would have at least given this game a relateable villain. Other than the likes of Whoreson, who is just a terrible awful badguy who cuts up women and kills people who win in the arena anyway in a very "look how evil I am" way.


The only remotely interesting villains in this game were the crones, but even they got sorta chopped into the wild hunt. :/

[Grey Lensman]

Well i'm hoping they advance Philipa in the January exapnsion, it would be a shame to let a character who was excellent in Witcher2 to be relegated to a side note. Philipa created the Lodge, experimented on Ciri and created kings, not sure why CDPR gave her such a mediocre role..

[Soz Alface]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BuzzardBee:

Daughter of circumstance, gotta love that phrase. Triss didn't "raise" Ciri and now feels like she's lost her to Yen or anyone else. Please. Yen, Triss, Margarite and plenty of others had a hand in raising Ciri for a number of years. If Yen felt closest to her it's due to her connection with Geralt. Given Triss' age, Ciri has always looked on her as more of a sister than a mother.


Me? I couldn't care less. I despise sorceresses as well. Yen, Triss, Philippa -- none of them are worth a second thought as far as I'm concerned. None can be trusted.

I´ve been reading some of you comments here and I am still confused if you have or not actually read the books.

Sometimes it looks like you have. Other times it looks that you have been checking "wikis" and absorved false information.

This right here is false:
" Yen, Triss, Margarite and plenty of others had a hand in raising Ciri for a number of years"

Triss was with Ciri just some days. I think less than a week.
She just analised the "magical stuff" that Ciri was evidencing and immediately sugested Geralt he should contact Yen because she was much more powerfull and much more experienced than her.
And the only reason Triss even was contacted by Geralt to help with Ciri was because Geralt was terribly afraid of hurting Yen again.

Margarita had no more that a brief conversation with Ciri that didn´t involve more than compliments.


This here, also false:
"If Yen felt closest to her it's due to her connection with Geralt."

Yen and Ciri have a very strong bond. Stronger than Geralt. Yen called Ciri her daughter and child several times, Ciri called Yen her mother and "mommy" also several times and even expressed her wish to the Lodge that her name was to be Cirilla of Vengeberg, daughter of Yennefer of Vengeberg.

She never called Gerlat her father nor anything even close to it. Neither did Geralt ever called her his daughter. He only tells others that she is like a daughter to him.

Ciri has a stronger bond with Yen. Followed by Geralt. Vesemir, Ermion (wich is Mousshack, from the Saga) and Crach are also close to her.
Triss, in this aspect is again a sidenote. Ciri doesn´t even show that much of a bond with Triss. She was with her less than a week in Kaer ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and thats it.


This here:

"I despise sorceresses as well. Yen, Triss, Philippa -- none of them are worth a second thought as far as I'm concerned. None can be trusted."


I won´t call it false because it is your own opinion and you didn´t state is as a fact. Just as an opinion.

But I have to adress this because you shouldn´t generalize. There are sorceress you can put your full trust in. And if you read the books you´ll understand because you get to know them.
As opposed to the games that make them all look sketchy, when they aren´t all like that.

Yen - completely trustworthy. During all the Saga, her actions show exactly that.
She never pursued power of any kind or influence. She even rejected jobs as a king advisor.
She rejected being part of the Lodge.

Her only personal goal in the Saga was to cure her infertility so she could have a child (that is why she wanted the Djinn), and then, to protect Ciri, with her life if necessary.
And she even asked the Lodge and Triss to save Geralt and they refused. She even said that they could trashe her good name and make her look like a traitor to the Northern Realms if that was the price to save Geralt.
Triss an the Lodge, still refused.

Margarita - Her only care are her students and education. She was never involved in politics or power struggles up until she joined the Lodge, wich she did under the impression that the Lodge´s objective was to "protect magic".

Fringilla - Although on a mission from the Lodge to stall Geralt in Toussaint for as much time as possible, she fell in love with him and started to help him to understand exactly what Ciri is and why she is hunted by so many people and things. And she actually acted as a true friend of Yen, helping her escape the Lodge and she saved Geralt´s life too.

Síle - the most level headed person in the Lodge and the most aprochable one. She didn´t even wanted to be in the Lodge. She only cared for medical research.

[Grey Lensman]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Salad:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BuzzardBee:

Daughter of circumstance, gotta love that phrase. Triss didn't "raise" Ciri and now feels like she's lost her to Yen or anyone else. Please. Yen, Triss, Margarite and plenty of others had a hand in raising Ciri for a number of years. If Yen felt closest to her it's due to her connection with Geralt. Given Triss' age, Ciri has always looked on her as more of a sister than a mother.


Me? I couldn't care less. I despise sorceresses as well. Yen, Triss, Philippa -- none of them are worth a second thought as far as I'm concerned. None can be trusted.

I´ve been reading some of you comments here and I am still confused if you have or not actually read the books.

Sometimes it looks like you have. Other times it looks that you have been checking "wikis" and absorved false information.

This right here is false:
" Yen, Triss, Margarite and plenty of others had a hand in raising Ciri for a number of years"

Triss was with Ciri just some days. I think less than a week.
She just analised the "magical stuff" that Ciri was evidencing and immediately sugested Geralt he should contact Yen because she was much more powerfull and much more experienced than her.
And the only reason Triss even was contacted by Geralt to help with Ciri was because Geralt was terribly afraid of hurting Yen again.

Margarita had no more that a brief conversation with Ciri that didn´t involve more than compliments.


This here, also false:
"If Yen felt closest to her it's due to her connection with Geralt."

Yen and Ciri have a very strong bond. Stronger than Geralt. Yen called Ciri her daughter and child several times, Ciri called Yen her mother and "mommy" also several times and even expressed her wish to the Lodge that her name was to be Cirilla of Vengeberg, daughter of Yennefer of Vengeberg.

She never called Gerlat her father nor anything even close to it. Neither did Geralt ever called her his daughter. He only tells others that she is like a daughter to him.

Ciri has a stronger bond with Yen. Followed by Geralt. Vesemir, Ermion (wich is Mousshack, from the Saga) and Crach are also close to her.
Triss, in this aspect is again a sidenote. Ciri doesn´t even show that much of a bond with Triss. She was with her less than a week in Kaer ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and thats it.


This here:

"I despise sorceresses as well. Yen, Triss, Philippa -- none of them are worth a second thought as far as I'm concerned. None can be trusted."


I won´t call it false because it is your own opinion and you didn´t state is as a fact. Just as an opinion.

But I have to adress this because you shouldn´t generalize. There are sorceress you can put your full trust in. And if you read the books you´ll understand because you get to know them.
As opposed to the games that make them all look sketchy, when they aren´t all like that.

Yen - completely trustworthy. During all the Saga, her actions show exactly that.
She never pursued power of any kind or influence. She even rejected jobs as a king advisor.
She rejected being part of the Lodge.

Her only personal goal in the Saga was to cure her infertility so she could have a child (that is why she wanted the Djinn), and then, to protect Ciri, with her life if necessary.
And she even asked the Lodge and Triss to save Geralt and they refused. She even said that they could trashe her good name and make her look like a traitor to the Northern Realms if that was the price to save Geralt.
Triss an the Lodge, still refused.

Margarita - Her only care are her students and education. She was never involved in politics or power struggles up until she joined the Lodge, wich she did under the impression that the Lodge´s objective was to "protect magic".

Fringilla - Although on a mission from the Lodge to stall Geralt in Toussaint for as much time as possible, she fell in love with him and started to help him to understand exactly what Ciri is and why she is hunted by so many people and things. And she actually acted as a true friend of Yen, helping her escape the Lodge and she saved Geralt´s life too.

Síle - the most level headed person in the Lodge and the most aprochable one. She didn´t even wanted to be in the Lodge. She only cared for medical research.

Well said, folks should read the books more for sure..But its CDPR who should take the blame on this, as they generalised the Witcher stories from Andrzej Sapkowski, mainly by portraying Triss as she is now and not what she actually was.

[Ivar]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mumm-Ra:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von sup2069:

I remember seeing these threads pop up back around launch and hadn’t read for the sake of spoilers. Forgot about it all until I reached the first encounter :( Not sure what happened, but the actress’s heart doesn’t seem to be in it. The delivery feels weak for those of us who felt the performances of the past Trisses. Sorceresses in the Witcher world are cunning, manipulative, scheming, powerful masters of the tongue and get what they want (long term planners, think Senator Palpatine). This current Triss doesn’t fit the role after her line deliveries giving to a false believability of having this stature. What a shame :\

Yes its terrible, she sounds like some country bumpkin instead of a sophisticated upper class aristocrat. I mean she has lived a long time and is used to the trappings of luxury. I think Keira Metz pulled it off best.

That's because she's not a sophisticated upper-class aristrocrat. Triss' personality was first established in TW2 ( forget her in the first game, she's Yen 2.0 there ) CDPR deliberately gave her the unassuming, girl next door air and that's what Jamie Barbakof is trying to establish in her performance. She's not vain, or self centered or concerned with court politics any more, but the complete opposite of your typical Sorceress in the games.

[Y Ddraig Ddu]

So? It doesn't make her sound any less stoned.

[Grey Lensman]

In w3 Triss cares about one thing and one thing only that is Mages/Magic, she's realised the lodge is dead and her plans are in ruins. It's typical damage limitation, i expect her to re awaken her quest for power in Kovir if CDPR have any say in it.

[RedPing l Dabook]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Maskeno:

I actually liked triss more than anyone else in the game. I felt her delivery was perfect for a character who turned her back on the lodge only to see her accusations used to fan the fires of a witch hunt.

Who loved a man who abandoned her to chase his forgotten lover and their daughter of circumstance, leaving her alone after all of it.


She was the single most compelling female character in this game by my opinion.

Damn...so sad.

[paintio]

I don't know about the acting, whatever.
But the actress has a nice voice.

[kraidy117]

Triss's voice is good in polish, in english it's just a fricken joke, more so compared to Yen and Ciri. Then again Triss has always been inconsistent and bad in the games so expecting CDP to even get her character right at this stage is not oging to get you anywhere.

[Maskeno]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CursedPanther:

Only after you've heard Jaimi Barbakoff's performance in W2, then you'll begin to feel that her act in W3 is somewhat a lackluster. It just doesn't sound as passionate and immersive as her previous performance, probably due to the focus being shifted towards Ciri and Yennifer.

What? I felt the opposite. I thought her performance in tw2 was off. :P