Since when did the 3060 stop being a ray tracing GPU?

[Grand]

The RT performance for this game is ass, i be getting 45 fps with the lowest RT settings and everything else on low. basically unplayable with raytracing on a "raytracing capable gpu"

If majority of people cant run certain settings don't implement it, other people with less capable hardware will feel like they are missing out on amazing graphics especially when the prices of gpu's are so high. game devs need to start focusing more on making games better not looking better. I mean i have a 3 year old GPU and it cant run modern games with good frames? my gpu was £300+ currently and it cant run these games. They should have left raytracing out of this game until future gpus and lower prices. idk how the hell the Xbox and PS5 run this game with RT

[Grand]

LaraM の投稿を引用：

Derivat949 の投稿を引用：

Yeah and guess what? Witcher 3 still runs worse and less consistent than Cyberpunk and most other games so it's not like throwing money at a badly optimized game will make it work perfectly. Just be happy with what you have my dude, you'll be able to run most games that are reasonably well made at decent fps and on badly made ones not even a 4090 will guarantee a good experience.

The patch worsened performance
It seems since the release CDPR was cursed with bad handling of games. Please stop messing around and leave things as they are you are making things even worse. Nvidia RTX 3060 can't run this 2015 cartoony graphics game properly this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

True

[levagabundo]

yesterday i played like always, good, 45fps, graphic accord my GPU, direct 11, all ok. now i can't even play :c when i press continue, charge a litte and then crash. it's injustice for the people with "not gamer pc" , because i change to direct 12 and it works, but my fps start falling down like my hope in the humanity,

[Derivat949]

StingingVelvet の投稿を引用：

Derivat949 の投稿を引用：

https://youtu.be/vCOT6GtRlJY It's Ultra not Psycho here but iirc that doesnt really make a big difference fps wise (1080p obvs)

3070 is a 1440p card (or at least should be) so at 1080p with DLSS on to lower the resolution ever further and getting 50-something fps is not really what I would call acceptable performance. But if you genuinely enjoyed it that's all that matters.

I'd say it's a high tier 1080p or mid-tier 1440p card, but I'd also argue that no card is gonna run most RT implementations at it's native target resolution, the tech just isn't there yet

[Excal]

I mean to be fair, even my rtx 3070 5800x3d struggles with rtx witcher. Even a 3080/3090 will struggle with witcher 3 max rtx on at 1440p.... That's just how RTX is and in this game RTX is intensive because it changes a whole lot of the game world more than other games do. Name one game that changes rtx as much as witcher 3 that runs well that isn't cyberpunk (if you can say that it runs well) .... Here i took a comparison shot of RTX OFF VS ON:

https://imgsli.com/MTYyMTMz
https://imgsli.com/MTM5NjY1
https://imgsli.com/MTYyMTM4

That's just how RTX is. The 3000 series are a 2nd gen RTX gpu and newer gen GPUs will always have better-optimized rtx performance. The 4070ti can get 70-100 frames with rtx on dlss frame gen, max settings at 1440p. Just because we have rtx gpus doesn't mean it will run well look at the 2000 series gpus, the first ever rtx gpus like rtx 2060, rtx 2070, etc... Do you think that the first ever RTX gpus will run Witcher 3 max rtx on? No, and the 3000 series won't either because its only 2nd gen rtx. 4000 Series is very costly but their rtx performance is miles better and we will see with the upcoming 5000 GPUs. Btw consoles have 30 fps and lowered resolution to enable rtx..... 30 fps is terrible at least you get 45+ is higher than that of a console.

[-GK- Paladin]

45 frames on a 3060 is fantastic. You think it isn't? Play Mechwarrior 5 with that same card. RT high. Someone sent me a screenshot of them getting 45 frames with a 4090. I'll let your imagination do the rest for what happens with the entry level 3060.

[SgtScum]

Something that helped me in this game and many others is to turn off full screen optimizations on the games exe file. Win10 changes the way it operates and its geared towards making their pc xbox overlays work properly with games. If you don't use it then you can regain sometimes a rather astonishing amount of performance by turning it off. If you find it works for you then there are registry edits to disable it globally.

[StingingVelvet]

LaraM の投稿を引用：

I have Cyberpunk(rt on), watchdogs legions (rt on), Hogwarts legacy (rt on) all of them new games and have over 60fps.

1080p with like performance DLSS or something I'm guessing?

[StingingVelvet]

Derivat949 の投稿を引用：

I'd say it's a high tier 1080p or mid-tier 1440p card, but I'd also argue that no card is gonna run most RT implementations at it's native target resolution, the tech just isn't there yet

It's a 1440p card according to Nvidia's marketing and design, so you should expect 1440p performance. Don't let them weasel out of that while raising prices.

Anyway... native 4k with RT is a dream even for a 4090, but 1080p ain't 4k. Also more to the point DLSS looks way worse the lower you go in base resolution. I don't even like lower than "quality" at 4k that much, let alone 1080p. Not sure what setting you were using, but I would rather turn RT off I'm sure. Heck I'd probably turn it off with my new 7900xtx and try for 90fps.

RT just requires too many sacrifices. If some love it enough to drop their res that low or have 50fps gameplay or whatever else that's cool, but for me a higher resolution and framerate will always take priority.

[tford1956]

Grand の投稿を引用：

The RT performance for this game is ass, i be getting 45 fps with the lowest RT settings and everything else on low. basically unplayable with raytracing on a "raytracing capable gpu"

If majority of people cant run certain settings don't implement it, other people with less capable hardware will feel like they are missing out on amazing graphics especially when the prices of gpu's are so high. game devs need to start focusing more on making games better not looking better. I mean i have a 3 year old GPU and it cant run modern games with good frames? my gpu was £300+ currently and it cant run these games. They should have left raytracing out of this game until future gpus and lower prices. idk how the hell the Xbox and PS5 run this game with RT

I have a 3060TI this is the only RT game that sucks

[Grand]

levagabundo の投稿を引用：

yesterday i played like always, good, 45fps, graphic accord my GPU, direct 11, all ok. now i can't even play :c when i press continue, charge a litte and then crash. it's injustice for the people with "not gamer pc" , because i change to direct 12 and it works, but my fps start falling down like my hope in the humanity,

Exactly

[Grand]

Dumar の投稿を引用：

Grand の投稿を引用：

The RT performance for this game is ass, i be getting 45 fps with the lowest RT settings and everything else on low. basically unplayable with raytracing on a "raytracing capable gpu"

If majority of people cant run certain settings don't implement it, other people with less capable hardware will feel like they are missing out on amazing graphics especially when the prices of gpu's are so high.

Xbox and PS5 run RT at medium to low at 30FPS target with the equivalency of a 2070 for raster/ 1st gen RT.

If you are truly averaging 45fps, you are rightfully doing better than consoles with 2nd gen RT performance. 3060 is performing in spec, as it should.

With that said...

"If majority of people cant run certain settings don't implement it..."

You are a clown for this... Get the hell outta here with this BS.

This is not how the world works, and will never work.

Bro its a waste of developers time and money are u goofy. Hella goofy

[Grand]

Excal の投稿を引用：

I mean to be fair, even my rtx 3070 5800x3d struggles with rtx witcher. Even a 3080/3090 will struggle with witcher 3 max rtx on at 1440p.... That's just how RTX is and in this game RTX is intensive because it changes a whole lot of the game world more than other games do. Name one game that changes rtx as much as witcher 3 that runs well that isn't cyberpunk (if you can say that it runs well) .... Here i took a comparison shot of RTX OFF VS ON:

https://imgsli.com/MTYyMTMz
https://imgsli.com/MTM5NjY1
https://imgsli.com/MTYyMTM4

That's just how RTX is. The 3000 series are a 2nd gen RTX gpu and newer gen GPUs will always have better-optimized rtx performance. The 4070ti can get 70-100 frames with rtx on dlss frame gen, max settings at 1440p. Just because we have rtx gpus doesn't mean it will run well look at the 2000 series gpus, the first ever rtx gpus like rtx 2060, rtx 2070, etc... Do you think that the first ever RTX gpus will run Witcher 3 max rtx on? No, and the 3000 series won't either because its only 2nd gen rtx. 4000 Series is very costly but their rtx performance is miles better and we will see with the upcoming 5000 GPUs. Btw consoles have 30 fps and lowered resolution to enable rtx..... 30 fps is terrible at least you get 45+ is higher than that of a console.

Goofy furry stfu

[Derivat949]

StingingVelvet の投稿を引用：

Derivat949 の投稿を引用：

I'd say it's a high tier 1080p or mid-tier 1440p card, but I'd also argue that no card is gonna run most RT implementations at it's native target resolution, the tech just isn't there yet

It's a 1440p card according to Nvidia's marketing and design, so you should expect 1440p performance. Don't let them weasel out of that while raising prices.

Anyway... native 4k with RT is a dream even for a 4090, but 1080p ain't 4k. Also more to the point DLSS looks way worse the lower you go in base resolution. I don't even like lower than "quality" at 4k that much, let alone 1080p. Not sure what setting you were using, but I would rather turn RT off I'm sure. Heck I'd probably turn it off with my new 7900xtx and try for 90fps.

RT just requires too many sacrifices. If some love it enough to drop their res that low or have 50fps gameplay or whatever else that's cool, but for me a higher resolution and framerate will always take priority.

DLSS Quality imo looks fine on 1080p but I wouldn't go any lower. Raising resolution is sort of pointless since I only have a 1080p monitor rn (I do use DLDSR 1440p when I have the performance to spare though) but down the line 1440p along with my next GPU upgrade is definitely in the cards.

Excal の投稿を引用：

I mean to be fair, even my rtx 3070 5800x3d struggles with rtx witcher. Even a 3080/3090 will struggle with witcher 3 max rtx on at 1440p.... That's just how RTX is and in this game RTX is intensive because it changes a whole lot of the game world more than other games do. Name one game that changes rtx as much as witcher 3 that runs well that isn't cyberpunk (if you can say that it runs well) .... Here i took a comparison shot of RTX OFF VS ON:

https://imgsli.com/MTYyMTMz
https://imgsli.com/MTM5NjY1
https://imgsli.com/MTYyMTM4

That's just how RTX is. The 3000 series are a 2nd gen RTX gpu and newer gen GPUs will always have better-optimized rtx performance. The 4070ti can get 70-100 frames with rtx on dlss frame gen, max settings at 1440p. Just because we have rtx gpus doesn't mean it will run well look at the 2000 series gpus, the first ever rtx gpus like rtx 2060, rtx 2070, etc... Do you think that the first ever RTX gpus will run Witcher 3 max rtx on? No, and the 3000 series won't either because its only 2nd gen rtx. 4000 Series is very costly but their rtx performance is miles better and we will see with the upcoming 5000 GPUs. Btw consoles have 30 fps and lowered resolution to enable rtx..... 30 fps is terrible at least you get 45+ is higher than that of a console.

Isn't the performance "increase" in the 40 series cards that overlap with 30 series solely because of DLSS 3 frame generation? Take that away and the 3090 Ti pretty closely matches the 4070 Ti (obviously 4080 and 90 are just faster all around), and as Nvidia moves down the product stack (if they do release a 4070, 4060 etc.) there will be even more overlap with little to no performance differences compared to 30 series except for DLSS 3.

[Grand]

DLSS performance looks ok at 1080p just a little blurry.

[SgtScum]

Dlss looks better at higher resolutions since it has more pixels to work with. Have you tried increasing the sharpness?