The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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s Sep 13, 2016 @ 4:41pm
Why doesn't Triss teleport mages out of Novigrad?
Or can't the mages just teleport themselves
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Tango Sep 13, 2016 @ 4:59pm 
That's.... actually a good question.
[82DK] Iregi Sep 13, 2016 @ 5:01pm 
In the game there's some exposition about the Wild Hunt snagging people using portals.... but you use them all game anyway so..... It doesn't make alot of sense.
I see it like this:
1) not all mages can make teleports;
2) most of the teleports we see in the trilogy work on relatively short distances while these mages need to be teleported many-many miles away from Novigrad to Kovir;
3) we see many working elven teleports hidden across Velen / Novigrad that potentially affect mages' teleports. Triss can be afraid of making teleports from Novigrad because of it; She could make teleports from the ship to other regions though.
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Harley♥Quinn Sep 13, 2016 @ 5:10pm 
because if she teleported them...then there would be no quests for us to do....lol....lol
Ivar Sep 13, 2016 @ 5:55pm 
Yeah, this was a huge issue with the Novigrad story line. I don't recall any attempt at all where the writers explained it.
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Look at Ciri,when she transport to The Skellige Isles,the explosion.
Ivar Sep 13, 2016 @ 6:48pm 
You can't get too picky or literal with the use of magic in Sapkowski's world. He used it sparingly and almost never as a deus ex machina. While I think CDPR were trying to follow suit, they should have provided an explanation for the Novigrad situation.
WolfEisberg Sep 13, 2016 @ 7:20pm 
Considering Triss became very weak when putting a shield around herself, Geralt, and Roche, I can only imagine how much more power it would take to transport all the other mages out. In other words, she didn't do it because she couldn't do it.
s Sep 13, 2016 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by eisberg:
Considering Triss became very weak when putting a shield around herself, Geralt, and Roche, I can only imagine how much more power it would take to transport all the other mages out. In other words, she didn't do it because she couldn't do it.
well that was a pretty big shield and other sorceresses like Yen and Phil don't really have any trouble with teleports
__-__-__ Sep 13, 2016 @ 7:43pm 
In Witcher 1 Savolla is said to be exhausted because he has teleported too much. I think it takes quite a bit of energy to teleport oneself, I wouldn't be surprised that it's a fairly high level piece of magic that not every one who is considered a "mage" could even do for themselves, and it would likely kill someone who actually could cast such a spell to move so many people. Remember alot of them weren't actually sorcerers\sorceresses, the Hunters were going after everyone they deemed too magical or abnormally interested in dangerous knowledge, regardless of thier actual power.
WolfEisberg Sep 13, 2016 @ 7:43pm 
Originally posted by dasdasdasd:
Originally posted by eisberg:
Considering Triss became very weak when putting a shield around herself, Geralt, and Roche, I can only imagine how much more power it would take to transport all the other mages out. In other words, she didn't do it because she couldn't do it.
well that was a pretty big shield and other sorceresses like Yen and Phil don't really have any trouble with teleports

Yeah, and it would be a big/long teleport for all those mages. Teleporting is an advanced mage ability, and not many are able to do it. Also teleporting carry a risk, Geralt has seen half a person come through a portal with the other half never seen again, also he has heard of many other cases of teleporting gone wrong, which is why he doesn't like teleporting. So it stands to reason using the lore that teleporting all those people would have taken way to much power and been extremely dangerous.
[82DK] Iregi Sep 13, 2016 @ 8:12pm 
I know magic isn't explained well in most of the games or books but with the small exposition about the Wild Hunt tracking mages down, and the seemingly huge amount of magic "energy(?)" that would be used to transport tons of mages out of Novigrad it makes a weird kind of sense that they didn't use portals.... maybe. Then there is the explanation that making portals is hard effing work etc etc.... It's flimsy explanation at best and at worst it's just a cheesy plot device. For a game that explains EVERYTHING like the Witcher enjoys doing it does seem a glaring oversight. Even having Geralt go into some elven ruins and snagging some of those stationary elven teleporters so the mages could repurpose them would have made more sense... at least IMO.

@BuzzardBee the dimeterium bombs are the worst plot hole makers in the entire damn game. Somehow they make Yen unable to use her megascope when they're unexploded and halfway across the castle but everyone can use magic just outside a Dimeterium cloud....... Dafuq?

There are plenty of other plotholes that can be nitpicked to death, and the insane level of detail the games codex goes into makes it easier to do. If they had left a few things vague and mysterious you could swallow the disbelief much more easily. This series wants to describe everything in painful detail though so that makes the plotholes more glaring..... once again thats just IMO.

FloydSneed1844 Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:01am 
It is explained multiple times in the franchise that sorceress are too weak to teleport large amount of people and certainly not that far. That's why...
FloydSneed1844 Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:08am 
Originally posted by BuzzardBee:
Originally posted by Suicide xD:
It is explained multiple times in the franchise that sorceress are too weak to teleport large amount of people and certainly not that far. That's why...

And apparently too weak to teleport themselves too. Since they're such weaklings, one must wonder why the hell the world fears them so much. Oh yeah, because they're not that weak after all. They just have lousy writers.
.... Most of the people are not mages they are herbalists or alchemists. Radovid kills anyone who touched any sort of herb or potion.
Some of the strongest sorceresses can teleport them and another being. Not an entire community.
[82DK] Iregi Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:40am 
Originally posted by Suicide xD:
Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

And apparently too weak to teleport themselves too. Since they're such weaklings, one must wonder why the hell the world fears them so much. Oh yeah, because they're not that weak after all. They just have lousy writers.
.... Most of the people are not mages they are herbalists or alchemists. Radovid kills anyone who touched any sort of herb or potion.
Some of the strongest sorceresses can teleport them and another being. Not an entire community.

Suicide he killed herbalists because they couldn't cast glamors like real mages. Yes it looks like Triss is just pulling a hood over her head but even being halfway farmiliar with the lore you know the hood is probably just a peice of fabric with glamors on it. AKA her hood doesn't appear to regular people as a hood but as a totally different face.

At least that's how I always understood it.

@buzzardbee I love the game and think it's storytelling is far above just about any other game I've seen in the past 10 years besides, maybe, Pillars of Eternity. Yes, that doesn't excuse certain aspects but IMO it makes it so good because it does try. Maybe I'm wrong in feeling that, and if I am oh well. I won't apologize for it.
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