is Nilfgaard USA?

[FrosTytheNoob]

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[tonypa]

No. There is no USA in Witcher lore, it is about Europe.

[FrosTytheNoob]

Originally posted by tonypa:

No. There is no USA in Witcher lore, it is about Europe.

not reffering to Europe but oh wait... more like the Roman Empire I guess

[tonypa]

You can pick number of examples from the history of Europe: Persia, Arab Caliphate, Mongols, Ottoman Empire (last one being probably closest to Witcher timeline) or Russia.

[Insurgent Korrah]

Originally posted by tonypa:

You can pick number of examples from the history of Europe: Persia, Arab Caliphate, Mongols, Ottoman Empire (last one being probably closest to Witcher timeline).

Not even close

This is USA vs Iraq

[Ozone]

Originally posted by FrosTytheNoob:

Originally posted by tonypa:

No. There is no USA in Witcher lore, it is about Europe.

not reffering to Europe but oh wait... more like the Roman Empire I guess

Nilfgaard is definetly something like the Roman Empire. They are the cultured, organized, ruled by an Emperor, speak an "old" language, have the largest and the most developed nation and invade the barbarians. What more could you ask for?

[Crimsomrider]

Hahaha, I died xD

[Marty Chonks]

No, Nilfgaard is actually a reference to nazi germany, anyone who can't see it is either blind or an idiot. Even their main army force in the game is named "army group center" (just google / wiki that). Also their armor and weapons are somewhat inspired by the medieval HRE style.

Sorry to necro a bit.

[Ivar]

Rome. Not Nazi Germany, but Rome.

[discord moderator feet pics]

I think that you are seeking something that is not there. It's made up fantasy world.

You can compare bad guys and good vs evil fight to the Nazi Germany and World War II almost in every case. The books and plot is usually made like somebody is invading other country, and because of the history people will compare it to World War II and Nazi Germany. It was in Tolkien's books (Sauron=Hitler) as well as the others.

And author himself explained that similarities are unavoidable, but it's not like he was thinking about Nazi Germany or any other country when writing this book.

But to be honest never heard about comparing Nilfgard to USA :).

[Exarch_Alpha]

Nilfgaard has more to do with a douchebag medieval Germany/Holy Roman Empire. It has an emperor but in practice what was holding it together was Emhyr. Good question what happens next in the endings where he is assassinated... Probably more autonomy or even independence for some duchies.

[Marty Chonks]

Originally posted by Ivar:

Rome. Not Nazi Germany, but Rome.

Why do you think Nilfgaard has anything in common with Rome? Is it the conquest, the feeling that others have a lesser culture compared to themselves? Those are not the feats or ideas that where invented / defined by Rome alone and were present in many other empires.

It is all in the symbolism and the actualy deeds:

- Nilfgaards main symbol is a sun in a form of a cross: swastika is actually a symbol of the sun
- all Nilfgaardian names are germanic/dutch inspired
- nilfgaardian black armour: as black as the SS
- Nilfgaard hangs their deserters with a small tablet saying something like "they ashamed their fatherland": direct reference to nazi practice towards the end of the war (same with public hanging of civilians)
- romans did also kill their deserters (by scurging and beheading or clubbing to death) and punished their troops, but they never purposedly left signs of weakness of their troops by the road afterwards (they did crucify civilians or enemy soldiers but what we see in game is orchestrated exactly like the nazis did)
- roman army (when Rome already became an empire) consisted mostly of professional soldiers and mercenaries, Nilfgaard employs mostly forced conscripts and volounteers (also completely different army composition, with main focus on heavy cavalry as an armored spearhead and wide use ranged troops)
- Nilfgaard fights for territory, it is suggested on several occasions that after actual victory the settlements will be repopulated wtih nilfgaardians and that the luckiest of the local populace will be let alive to serve them
- Romans fought for wealth and power above all, if there was no wealth to gain from nor commerce to take over, nor influence to undermine, they didn't even bother, they built walls and guarded themselfs from those uncivilized lands
- the overal appearnce (uniforms/arms) is indeed very much inspired by medieval german (HRE) military

If you can't see those glaring symbols in the game then you must be blind, if you think what represents Nilfgaard defined Rome you must be an idiot.

[Wafflesaurus Supreme]

Originally posted by Ozone:

Nilfgaard is definetly something like the Roman Empire. They are the cultured, organized, ruled by an Emperor, speak an "old" language, have the largest and the most developed nation and invade the barbarians. What more could you ask for? :D:

Gladiators and palace orgies.

[Ozone]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by Ozone:

Nilfgaard is definetly something like the Roman Empire. They are the cultured, organized, ruled by an Emperor, speak an "old" language, have the largest and the most developed nation and invade the barbarians. What more could you ask for?

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. All empires wind up in the dust in the end.

The Roman Empire fell but it left behind many things western civilization is based on so imo it will always continue to live on in some way.
As for the Nilfgaard, I can't say that it will follow the same road. In TW3 it seems to be at their peak, it could go either way. I guess we'll have to wait and see, either from CDPR in the future or from Sapkowski himself but I doubt it.

[Exarch_Alpha]

That would depend on who has the strongest dynasty. Since Emhyr apparently only had Ciri then fragmentation seems most likely, with Redania becoming the equivalent of France, if Djikstra/Radovid succeeds in having decent heirs.