Overrated and not an RPG at all.

[Shodan]

What's up with people constantly calling this game one of the best RPGs of all time when it literally isn't even remotely an RPG to begin with, let alone one of the best?

This is as much of an RPG as Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 where your choices affect the ending and you can customize weapon loadouts. Or Far Cry 3 where you have a basic skill tree and an open world. Just because there are swords, magic and typical fantasy creatures doesn't mean it's an RPG, you know...

Combat feels nice and hitting enemies feels satisfying, that's about the only good thing about gameplay. The main story was decent (only story-wise because gameplay sucks) with some good moments like the Baron and of course, the reunion scene, and that's about it.

The saddest thing is that this, which isn't an RPG at all, constantly gets called one of the best of all time, while Fallout 4 which actually is an RPG (although I despise how insanely dumbed down it is, especially compared to New Vegas which is also dumbed down compared to 1 and 2) isn't acknowledged as one by anyone.

These people were never capable of making a single decent game. I mean, look at Cyberpunk 2077, what else needs to be said?

This isn't just a completely dumbed down RPG like Fallout 4, it's not even that much, and people call it one of the best RPGs of all time? Not only is it not an RPG at all, let alone a good one, it's not even a good game at all, RPG stuff aside. Absolute nonsense, a disgrace and an insult to all actual RPGs out there.

[TheClosetSkeleton]

Do you realise that RPG stands for role playing game?

That any games which lets you incarnate the daily life of a character, be it one that is pre-established (such as Geralt) or a self-insert (Fallout) falls under this genre. That they are multiple types of rpgs, some being very different from others, both in story and gameplay.

An rpg can be in any setting, fantaisy swords or futuristic spaceship. Much like Smash bros, street fighter are fighting game but both are very different.

Then regarding the "best rpg ever" part, this will never ever cater to everybody, reason is, with that many people playing it, they are going to be a lot of different tastes (you should check out the previous thread, cause all this as been covered already). It got elected as game of the year mainly because the witcher is a game about immersion, which by a set of mecanics will force the player to enter the mindset of a witcher. This is what was praised.

The main story wasn't bad, without being amesome, but then they popped out two dlcs with some of the best plotline and characters we've seen in a long time in a game of this genre.

They didn't make the perfect game, but a game that's bound to be a great experience to a lot of people. If you can't get behind this, I suggest you find something more enjoyable to spend your time on than a game you so obviously despise and a forum which isn't going to give you the validation you came here seeking

[Valden21]

The "Witcher 3 SUXXXXX!!" bandwagon just gets more and more far-fetched, doesn't it?

Opinions about the game's quality aside, an RPG is a game where you assume the role of a character in a fictional setting, and control what the character does. That's essentially the broadest definition of this kind of game. Since you play the role of Geralt in the game, it IS an RPG. Therefore, this is obvious troll-bait.

[Tanooxares]

Claiming The Witcher 3 is not an RPG is one thing. but actually calling it a disgrace to all of the other RPGs and saying it's a bad game? Just Why? How much time have you actually spent playing this game? Did you even understand the story? And can you please name some "Good RPGs"?

[TheClosetSkeleton]

Originally posted by _FeaRSomE_:

Claiming The Witcher 3 is not an RPG is one thing. but actually calling it a disgrace to all of the other RPGs and saying it's a bad game? Just Why? How much time have you actually spent playing this game? Did you even understand the story? And can you please name some "Good RPGs"?

Give it up, as pointed by Valden21 above this is just bait. Either it's a 12 year old with no video game culture or knowledge, or simply a bored 30 year old that has nothing better to do of his day

[tigerpoetry]

First of all, i agree entirely with you. To my mind, I am not role-playing. In Skyrim, I am. In Tomb Raider I'm mot. To me, this is an open world game where I can develop my character fantastically.

Witcher, Witcher 2 and Withcer 3 are not RPGs.

I think that takes care of most of your post.

i think you lost your way with the rest of your post.

I agree that it's not an RPG. I disagree that it's not a good game, far from it. I think it's great.

Your premise appears to be that it's bad because some folk categorise it wrongly as an RPG. If I wrongly categorised 'The Lord Of The Rings' trilogy as Sci-Fi, would that make the films bad? No.

In summary, you are right (imo) that this is not an RPG. You are wrong to conclude that it is a bad game, on that basis.

[Castyles]

Indeed. It's just an action-adventure title with RPG elements. Like Mass Effect and the modern Fallouts are shooters with RPG elements. Witcher 3 has more in common with Assassin's Creed than, say, Morrowind.

It's not, however, a bad game per se.

[Hannah Montana]

People don't take kindly to criticism of Witcher 3. Good game yes. GOAT. No. But if you say this game isn't GOAT then all the hate comes.

[tigerpoetry]

Originally posted by Hannah Montana:

People don't take kindly to criticism of Witcher 3. Good game yes. GOAT. No. But if you say this game isn't GOAT then all the hate comes.

Clarify, please.

[Triggerd_Noob]

I tried to get into this game 3 different times and it did not hook me. I am not sure what it is as I typically like this type of game. I feel its def overrated myself.

[893457237]

Yes it is a role-playing game, you take the role of a witcher called Geralt.

[dantès]

Originally posted by Player:

Yes it is a role-playing game, you take the role of a witcher called Geralt.

get ready to defend yourself.

[The Presence]

Originally posted by Player:

Yes it is a role-playing game, you take the role of a witcher called Geralt.

Right, so is Halo an RPG then? DOOM?

After all, I take the role of Master Chief or Doom Guy.

[TheClosetSkeleton]

"Role-playing games (or RPGs) are video games where players engage with the gameworld through characters who have backstories and existing motivations. The RPG genre often includes NPCs (non-player characters), side quests, downloadable content (dlc), and larger story arcs."

That's the definition by masterclass : https://www.masterclass.com/articles/what-is-an-rpg

"A role-playing game (sometimes spelled roleplaying game;[1][2] abbreviated RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting or through a process of structured decision-making regarding character development.[3] Actions taken within many games succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines.[4]"

Here's from wikipedia : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game

"Experience Points and Character Levels.
Character Classes or a Job System.
Skill Scores and Perks.
Equippable abilities and Evolving Attacks.
Equipment-Based Progression.
Status Effects and Status Buffs.
Karma Meter and accompanying moral choices.
Relationship Values and Alliance Meters."

Elements that define an rpg title : https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RPGElements

To all you lovely people that agreed with "W3 is not an rpg" you can literally google that damn definition, because when you make claims regarding the GENRE of a game, whatever opinion you may have does not count for two ♥♥♥♥♥. If you want to argue that the game is currently overrated, sure. If you wanna say that the main story underdelivers, agreed, from the bottom of my heart. But you are not going to drag this dumbass argument when you can't even get the terminology right.

[The Presence]

You mean, people can Google a definition of RPG that just so happens to fit your narrative.

[TheClosetSkeleton]

Originally posted by The Presence:

Originally posted by Player:

Yes it is a role-playing game, you take the role of a witcher called Geralt.

Right, so is Halo an RPG then? DOOM?

After all, I take the role of Master Chief or Doom Guy.

No they are not, I just posted the def, stated in my first reply, RPGs are games were you take on the role of a fictional character (can be a self-insert or a pre-existing one) and interact with a world around you. It most often than not, bring along a moral system, gear/level base progression and focuses on creating an atmosphere.

However, FPS can also be made in rpgs if done right, they are not mutually eclusives.

Halo and doom are coridor based FPS, were progression is linear and based on skill level (you can argue that their is a skill tree in DOOM, but this doesn't cut it

EDIT: And to specify another thing, when people think that the only real rpgs are rpgs like Skyrim, Skyrim is classified as an Open-world sandbox rpg. One of the many types of rpg. The setting as nothing to do with it, hell look at the FF serie, they rarely make it a DnD setting.