could we talk them into rebel galaxy 2

[westonowsley1997]

i love this game and i feel like you could easily continue the story while expanding the game. have it start with him hunting for trill but hes not alone, with the learning of the new alien threat and possible expansion they realized they needed to put together forces to explore/hunt regions not looked into to find there home world for peace or eradication. this way you could add more threats since its uncharted space, add missions to set up defensive stations/outposts and give a reason to expand the ships like adding battleships /carriers. I say you wont be fighting alone cause as of the results of the first game you told the militia guy everything, he sent word to the higher ups and they decided to make a elite squad to spearhead these operations with you as the leader since your more familiar with the alien threat also being able to communicate better since trill left the translation program on your ship. This will give you a chance to command other ships maybe even fighter/bomber squadrons, but you also have a invested reason to find your friend in the areas that she got sent to. maybe even interrogate the aliens for any information on the the relic. I know its probably not gonna happen but maybe, I need more space westerns with explosions in my life.

[Beso]

you have my kidney

[Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry]

They did make a sequel or rather a prequel/sequel where you play as the character you're attempting to save in the first game. It's more of a traditional space combat game but elements of the first game are present. It's pretty much a more improved version of RG with a slightly different combat system.

Sadly that's all we get as the developers got tired of the games industry and have moved on to professions they find more gratifying (and less toxic).

[Beso]

pfft this life is toxic to any one who open there eyes there is pain every where
but and thats a big BUTT i always chose to face life instead of being weak
well Mr/ms texas furry what say you we both sell a kidney to kickstart a new improved good game with rebel fighting style mixed with space pirates and zombies 2 by any good(who wont cry so fast dev) :>

[Sunny]

Originally posted by Beso:

pfft this life is toxic to any one who open there eyes there is pain every where
but and thats a big BUTT i always chose to face life instead of being weak

Yeah, this is a great example of why they moved on.

[Beso]

Originally posted by Sunny:

Originally posted by Beso:

pfft this life is toxic to any one who open there eyes there is pain every where
but and thats a big BUTT i always chose to face life instead of being weak

Yeah, this is a great example of why they moved on.

you all need to find a save place and live in a bubble of rainbows unicorns and where you are always right

[Sunny]

Originally posted by Beso:

Originally posted by Sunny:

Yeah, this is a great example of why they moved on.

you all need to find a save place and live in a bubble of rainbows unicorns and where you are always right

Or, you know, pick employment that makes us happy where we're not subjected to random abuse by people who think they're entitled to a piece of us just because they liked a game.

Like you, thinking it's reasonable to insult and namecall because...somebody found a job they liked better than the one they had before. Really?

Why would they put up with that when not putting up with it is an easy change to make in their lives?

Life might be pain, but you certainly don't have to invite it by being a doormat.

[Cookie]

Originally posted by Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry:

Sadly that's all we get as the developers got tired of the games industry and have moved on to professions they find more gratifying (and less toxic).

I've seen you bring up this "toxic gamers" narrative at least twice here, and I've been wondering. Is this because of the negative reception RGO received after they hyped it up on Steam and then went for an Epic exclusive launch? I remember multiple threads being locked over that topic.

[WillieSea]

If it is then it would have been over the developers breaking their initial promise and not releasing it on steam for an entire year because they traded their honor for money.

[Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry]

Originally posted by Cookie:

Originally posted by Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry:

Sadly that's all we get as the developers got tired of the games industry and have moved on to professions they find more gratifying (and less toxic).

I've seen you bring up this "toxic gamers" narrative at least twice here, and I've been wondering. Is this because of the negative reception RGO received after they hyped it up on Steam and then went for an Epic exclusive launch? I remember multiple threads being locked over that topic.

It's because they never hyped it up on Steam. It was never announced here. It was always an Epic exclusive from the start. This whole narrative that they hyped it up here and promised it would be on Steam is a bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spread by anti-Epic types just looking for a reason to ♥♥♥♥ on Travis for making a perfectly legitimate business decision. One I happen to have disagreed with, by the way. I don't believe in exclusives. What I do believe in is people treating others with respect no matter how much they may disagree with them.

[Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry]

Originally posted by WillieSea:

If it is then it would have been over the developers breaking their initial promise and not releasing it on steam for an entire year because they traded their honor for money.

They never stated it would be on Steam. They never promised it would be here. Ever. So quit spreading this bs. As far as trading honor for money...please. Like you or anyone else even knows the meaning of the word. Travis and Erich made a legitimate business decision. Like the rest of us adults, they have roofs to put over their heads and kids to put through college. Their livelihoods take precedence over your or anyone else's convenience.

[WillieSea]

Originally posted by Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry:

Originally posted by WillieSea:

If it is then it would have been over the developers breaking their initial promise and not releasing it on steam for an entire year because they traded their honor for money.

They never stated it would be on Steam. They never promised it would be here. Ever. So quit spreading this bs. As far as trading honor for money...please. Like you or anyone else even knows the meaning of the word. Travis and Erich made a legitimate business decision. Like the rest of us adults, they have roofs to put over their heads and kids to put through college. Their livelihoods take precedence over your or anyone else's convenience.

Just because you THINK you are friends with the developers you always come riding in on your white horse, a true armchair warrior, every time. You have no honor, like a child you simply follow your perceived masters without any thought.

There is much debate on the term 'promised' and 'implied' that the game would be on steam at launch. Then Epic bribed them (a legitimate business decision, sure) and they took the money and basically flipped the birdie at the steam gamers for an entire year and that is what caused a lot of the bad feelings on steam.

They made a decision and now they now have to live with it. There is no sugar coating what they did like you always attempt to do.

[Cookie]

Originally posted by Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry:

It's because they never hyped it up on Steam. It was never announced here. It was always an Epic exclusive from the start. This whole narrative that they hyped it up here and promised it would be on Steam is a bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spread by anti-Epic types just looking for a reason to ♥♥♥♥ on Travis for making a perfectly legitimate business decision. One I happen to have disagreed with, by the way. I don't believe in exclusives. What I do believe in is people treating others with respect no matter how much they may disagree with them.

I'm not trying to get another argument started and get this thread locked, but... do you actually believe that? I used to not believe people were actually capable of revising history in their own brains only as far back as a year or two, but then I've watched geopolitics over the last several years. I think people really are genuine in their belief when they say things didn't happen that demonstrably did happen as recently as last year.

You are possibly also using a very narrow definition of "hyped" specifically to rationalize your position. The word almost certainly means something much less narrow to the majority of people reading than how you are using it. Often internet arguments boil down to people (usually on all sides) just having very narrow, specific, and in-their-own-favor definitions of words.

Anyway, I was just wondering if the Epic exclusive thing was why you keep making these "toxic gamer" claims, or if it goes deeper. Like Erich went REALLY off the deep end politically on social media, but Travis seems to be more level-headed. If the claim is coming from both equally, or more from Travis than Erich, then I'd suspect it has more to do with actual gamers. OTOH, if it's Erich making the claim...

[tankanidis]

I'm deeply saddened that the Devs listened to the advice of players who wanted the 3d combat of other games and followed that path into the sequel, which failed abysmally as everyone who loved the first game could not play it, and everyone who supposedly 'wanted' it that way, just went to the other main titles that were already like it instead

They should've stuck to the format that made Rebel Galaxy 1 so awesome

I would've LOVED a sequel in the same format as this game

I'd still LOVE a sequel (Rebel Galaxy 3) at some point that had the format of Rebel Galaxy 1

The broadside 2.5D combat with the Country Music just stood out so well

I miss this game and out of the 1000 i have in my library, it's probably in the top 3 i'd want to see more games like it appear


edit: Dev's if you ever read this, you hit gold with this format in Rebel Galaxy 1, please consider trying to strike gold again in the future by making it like this game going forward

[Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry]

Originally posted by WillieSea:

There is much debate on the term 'promised' and 'implied' that the game would be on steam at launch. Then Epic bribed them (a legitimate business decision, sure) and they took the money and basically flipped the birdie at the steam gamers for an entire year and that is what caused a lot of the bad feelings on steam.

They made a decision and now they now have to live with it. There is no sugar coating what they did like you always attempt to do.

I've been here from the start. I remember all the comments, statements, and interviews. They were always careful to state that they weren't sure what platform it would be on yet because they weren't. It's not like they weren't transparent about not being sure if the second game would be on Steam or not. It was just them being smart business-wise and doing their best to not give people too many expectations.

Video games are a luxury product. Nobody 'flipped the bird'. Having to wait a year isn't a punishment it's a mild inconvenience. Acting like they're doing something wrong because they went with a publisher who was giving developers a larger amount of control and share of profits over their own creation is just ridiculous. The only thing they had to live with was a greater share of profits they deserved due to all their hard work.

And yeah-if I see people talking ♥♥♥♥ about my friends and spreading misinformation I'm going to call it out. Call it 'white knighting' all you want. I just happen to think it's pretty rude to talk ♥♥♥♥ about people who've never done a damn thing to you.

[Zidders 'Rockin' Bard' Roofurry]

Originally posted by Cookie:

do you actually believe that?

You are possibly also using a very narrow definition of "hyped" specifically to rationalize your position. The word almost certainly means something much less narrow to the majority of people reading than how you are using it. Often internet arguments boil down to people (usually on all sides) just having very narrow, specific, and in-their-own-favor definitions of words.

Anyway, I was just wondering if the Epic exclusive thing was why you keep making these "toxic gamer" claims, or if it goes deeper. Like Erich went REALLY off the deep end politically on social media, but Travis seems to be more level-headed. If the claim is coming from both equally, or more from Travis than Erich, then I'd suspect it has more to do with actual gamers. OTOH, if it's Erich making the claim...

By 'didn't hype it up on Steam' I mean 'they never implied that it coming to Steam right away was a definitive.' While I can't speak for Travis or Erich as to just how early or late in development they considered Epic given Epic was already making waves with its percentage given to devs I doubt it took them very long. On top of that I've looked back at old interviews and threads and can't find them saying anything like 'it's coming to Steam' before they decided to go with Epic's year-long exclusive window.

I'll be more than happy to admit I'm wrong if there's evidence out there proving the opposite is the case.

As far as the Epic exclusive thing and it leading to Travis bowing out I don't know the full details. We're friends but we don't talk on a regular basis and I wouldn't presume to speak for him anyway. From what I have seen him talk about with others Epic was more the straw that broke the camels back. I don't think Erich's politics played any part in it...though I'll be honest. It's not like he's wrong.

I mean I can't stick up for a friend and ask people to be a bit kinder without being called a white knight and being accused of being a child with no honor following my masters around lol.

No. I just think calling people ♥♥♥♥♥♥ human beings for not releasing a game on some corporations platform is douchey, that's all. Becuase it is. If someone is sticking up for rude people who treat developers like ♥♥♥♥ and insulting those who are defending them instead of sticking up for the victims of said rude behavior that's called being toxic.

Is it really any wonder Travis prefers to spend time doing a job where the community is much nicer, the pay is steady, and he doesn't have to deal with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ people telling him he's a horrible human for not releasing a video game HE made the way someone else wants him to?