ENDLESS™ Legend

ENDLESS™ Legend

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wgFang187 Apr 14, 2024 @ 4:21pm
Game worth getting?
as the title says i have no idea if i should get the game. the setting looks really interesting and from the videos i've watch especially from mandaloregaming look interesting, but i've never played a 4x game, so have no idea what to really expect
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Gilmoy Apr 14, 2024 @ 5:17pm 
It's almost surely worth your time.

1. It's a classic 4X, surely top-3 during its era (2014 - 2017), and probably top-100 all-time.
2. It's old and dead, hence it's cheap. You can get all of it for -90% off during sales.

Some caveats:
- It's so old that it may not play nicely with modern Win 11, DX 11+, Core i7s, Linux, etc.
A tiny fraction of players (who still play it) report hardware errors that prevent launch.
If you're one of them, tough luck.

- You may discover that you despise 4Xes.
- You may discover that you love Civ-type 4Xes, but hate Amplitude EL-type 4Xes.

Anyways, it's available on steep sale.
It might even be free, if Amplitude has rotated it into their give away for free subset.
wgFang187 Apr 14, 2024 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by Gilmoy:
It's almost surely worth your time.

1. It's a classic 4X, surely top-3 during its era (2014 - 2017), and probably top-100 all-time.
2. It's old and dead, hence it's cheap. You can get all of it for -90% off during sales.

Some caveats:
- It's so old that it may not play nicely with modern Win 11, DX 11+, Core i7s, Linux, etc.
A tiny fraction of players (who still play it) report hardware errors that prevent launch.
If you're one of them, tough luck.

- You may discover that you despise 4Xes.
- You may discover that you love Civ-type 4Xes, but hate Amplitude EL-type 4Xes.

Anyways, it's available on steep sale.
It might even be free, if Amplitude has rotated it into their give away for free subset.

yeah i might wait for a sale, but no idea how often it goes on sale. and i have no idea how to get it for free if that's still even a thing thats offered. i know that there is a community patch, so i will probably download that if/when i get the game
PAWG Apr 14, 2024 @ 8:37pm 
i got all my ♥♥♥♥ on sale the sales were really cheap
the games really not that great objectively but what do i know about 4x's

this is all i can say: i have never played 4x's, never really liked them, hate Civ6, and i played this and loved it. If the combat for endless legends was better i would still be playing it.

The creativity, the music, the environment. this is a game to pop a couple perc's to and just relax (lol)

if endless legends was a classic RTS (like warcraft/starcraft) i think it would've sold 100million copys. it has an opportunity in the wake of Stormgate (which WILL bring rts genre back into the spotlight mark my words)
Elitewrecker PT Apr 15, 2024 @ 4:48am 
It was free some months ago but only for a limited stock I think.

Emulate civ1 and 2 for consoles?
Last edited by Elitewrecker PT; Apr 15, 2024 @ 4:48am
Vambran Apr 16, 2024 @ 7:01pm 
yes but some of the DLC's / Races make the game 100x harder. Don't play against faceless or mushroom guys your first time or you going to hate the game.
Vambran Apr 16, 2024 @ 7:28pm 
Originally posted by DestrockQc:
The what !? faceless and mushroom guys wth ?

Cultist - They get super cities that are impossible to take over early game. you will be stuck with them if they are next to you.

Mykara - They constantly terraform everything on the map making life hard.
Tode[BTC] Apr 22, 2024 @ 2:12pm 
Honestly, I think this is one of the best designed 4x games I have played. This is coming from having a lot of hours in many different 4x games.
The factions in the game all play drastically different and all have a unique ways of playing / having their own unique mechanics. They are all fun IMO.

Outside of the factions, the overall mechanics of the game I think is a very good mix of typical 4x fair and narrative RPG elements. While it is not quite as detailed and in depth mechanically as some 4x there are quests, item builds, and neutral faction interactions that all give it a different more narrative play that I think stands out really well. And those narrative bits, I think, are well written and are interesting. With each faction having their own unique overall narrative.

HOWEVER, the down sides are the game is old. (might not be 100% compatible with some hardware)
But game play wise I think the biggest complaint I have about it is the game plays slow. Not from a mechanics standpoint, but from a UI and game speed itself standpoint. There is a lot of animations in game that cannot really be skipped or sped up and that makes it so there is a rather slow pace just navigating through the game, outside of the game mechanics themselves. That can make a the game a little more tedious than it really should be.

On sale I would say it is 100% worth, given it works for you. Since OP has never played a 4x? That kinda depends. I think it is a really good 4x, and one a new person could get into, but you have to be patient with it and accept that is will be a little slow and tedious to play. If you have experience playing older games that generally have a slower overall pace, specially old cRPGs, than I would say you may like it very much. But if you do not like that and cannot stand that slower pace, than you probably want to pass.
McFlurry Butts Apr 24, 2024 @ 2:17am 
I have no idea how the combat system really works, but everything else is astounding, especially the art style.
Groo the one Apr 24, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by McFlurry Butts:
I have no idea how the combat system really works, but everything else is astounding, especially the art style.

Perhaps this combat guide series is of use for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3eREwr0MmI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yxvL4gI_Xw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5bIAGYUl-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOWTaV6-s1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdSyMqiX4RI
Last edited by Groo the one; Apr 24, 2024 @ 2:16pm
Waifuhunter Apr 25, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
I'd say it's not worth buying it. It's too slow even on the fastest speed or it feels so at least. I'd even say it's slower than Civ5. Also it becomes chaotic if you have all DLCs. I tried playing it in multiplayer on the realise and it was way too slow and boring. So... yeah.. it's a nice game but the gameplay is :poop:. or it'd be better to say it's the Amplitude's game. All their games are like this: they look nice, have interesting lore and ideas but gameplay mechanics are poorly built. For example, space combat in Endless Space is worse than in Stellaris. Or if we speak about Endless Legend - almost everything in this game is worse than in Civ5.
Waifuhunter Apr 25, 2024 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by DestrockQc:
If they would add a lot of traits and rebalance better the factions, Endless Legend would beat every Civilizations.
doubt it. it need more than just fractions' rebalancing. it needs proper game design.
Schmeeda Apr 26, 2024 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by wgFang187:
as the title says i have no idea if i should get the game. the setting looks really interesting and from the videos i've watch especially from mandaloregaming look interesting, but i've never played a 4x game, so have no idea what to really expect
It's worth your time, definitely a one of a kind. You won't find another game like Endless Legend out there.
JustSmile Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:00pm 
Absolutely worth it, Endless Legend and Endless Space are some of the best 4x titles.
Mors Avis Apr 27, 2024 @ 5:25pm 
This game is definitely worth it. There are so many distinct and innovative systems in this game that make other 4X games look like they were made in the stone age. This game was ahead of its time back in 2014.

From the resource system to the city/region mechanics, to the minor race mechanics, the unique factions and abilities ... to the water-based combat/movement/environment systems ... to the story-driven questing and end game options ... to the ability to design units, acquire weapons and artifacts, and make your heroes unique and interesting ... the game has a metric ton of content.

Regarding the combat system: The combat system is unique, fun, and quite interesting. In fact, I favor it these days over the combat systems in many other 4X games, which are often bogged down by a "too much detail" and "one-unit-at-a-time paralysis". Look at AoW4, for example--the combat system in that game is interesting at first, but quickly becomes tiresome. The battles just take way too long and are hopelessly repetitive, which is why many people just AutoResolve everything in AoW4.

Endless Legend uses a hybrid system, which is based around issuing orders each round. You have total control over your units, despite what many detractors might say. (Many people are just too lazy to learn how the system works.) And the system plays out, in some ways, like a Total War game, in that you don't have to painstakingly move every single unit, every single square--instead, the battle plays out based on the orders you give, which gives it a more cinematic quality ... and it doesn't get "bogged down" in the same "one-unit-at-a-time paralysis" you see in other 4X games. Battles are quicker, can end in stalemate, and are often decided by tactics and gear, instead of just overwhelming numbers.
Last edited by Mors Avis; Apr 27, 2024 @ 5:28pm
Evilbones76 May 14, 2024 @ 12:21pm 
Take this game for what it is, an old 4x that has AMAZING music and atmosphere. The graphics are decent, the lore is amazing and the civs are unique to each other. If you want to sit back, chill and enjoy a fairly easy game, this is your baby.
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