Sid Meier's Civilization VI

Sid Meier's Civilization VI

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Sc0ttm0 Nov 20, 2016 @ 4:48pm
Why is communism the best government?
I mean it never works in the real world so why does it work the best here?
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SnekTBeuford Nov 20, 2016 @ 4:53pm 
I think Democracy is the better governmnet due to the higher amount of diplomatic and wildcard slots.
Occred Nov 20, 2016 @ 4:54pm 
Same. I always go for a turtle-y economic playstyle and democracy works best for me.
SnekTBeuford Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:42pm 
That said I often go Communism simply because it's much easier to build 3 factories than it is to build 4 sewers.
Paulytnz Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:44pm 
The only reason communisim (imo) failed in the real world was because they were always corrupt. Now, if the same was true about every democracy we might have the same result.
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maxdogg75 Nov 20, 2016 @ 7:58pm 
I find it is best for domination victory.
bacon. Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:23pm 
Tell that to China.
maxdogg75 Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:27pm 
Originally posted by BaconBastrd:
Tell that to China.
LOL
zambasshik Nov 20, 2016 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by Paulytnz:
The only reason communisim (imo) failed in the real world was because they were always corrupt. Now, if the same was true about every democracy we might have the same result.

I concure. Also people should always keep in mind that communism (Marxist) is an economic sytling and not a form of government. It is completely feasable to have the democratic republic* style government we have while also having a communist economy. Also, we are not capitalist... we are a form of socialism called Free Enterprise.

*Democratic means anyone can vote; Republic means we vote for people to represent us in government. If we were straight Democratic, every person would vote directly for every policy and law that would be passed.
Sendokami Nov 20, 2016 @ 9:13pm 
The problem with communism is the people. In theory it works wonderful but the problem is that humans are inherently power seekers. We seek the greatest gain for the least amount of effort with variability for personality. Why work hard every day at your job when it wont change anything? Why take a risk on something when at best nothing changes and at worse you make trouble for yourself? Then we have those people that seek to be on top. They are in every society and will always seek to exert their power over others.

Communism in of itself is a fine idea its just incompatible with the human race as of now.
zambasshik Nov 20, 2016 @ 10:36pm 
Originally posted by Sendokami:
The problem with communism is the people. In theory it works wonderful but the problem is that humans are inherently power seekers. We seek the greatest gain for the least amount of effort with variability for personality. Why work hard every day at your job when it wont change anything? Why take a risk on something when at best nothing changes and at worse you make trouble for yourself? Then we have those people that seek to be on top. They are in every society and will always seek to exert their power over others.

Communism in of itself is a fine idea its just incompatible with the human race as of now.

I agree to an extent. Communism hasn't been used on any major nation with a stable and strong econmy (like the US). The Soviets and the now the Russians, have never had a strong stable work force / economy. I think the degree of Social Loafing will be less than that of other nations if a major power today switched, but it would be present none-the-less
SamBC Nov 21, 2016 @ 1:21am 
You can keep discussing whether or not communism is the best government in the game, but let's keep off the real world politics/geopolitics/history, as it just leads to huge arguments.
Tatanka Nov 21, 2016 @ 6:51am 
communism has always been the best choice in civ games
production boost, military boost
democracy in civ 6 does nothing to help any victory along, what extra points? by the time you get it you should already have a few souvereigns unreachable for other civs, its a waste to go democracy. Only thing i can think of to choose it is to have better relations with ai that took democracy but they so eratic i really couldnt care less anymore and rather take communism and squeeze out another turn to build spaceprojects.
PawelK198604 Nov 21, 2016 @ 9:54am 
What do you think about Communism?
In Game perspective of course if i start new game as Peter The Great and later morph Russia ino Sovietsky Sojuz :D
katzenkrimis (Banned) Nov 21, 2016 @ 12:08pm 
I use democracy.

But it's important to note, that none of these in-game government choices mean a hill of beans.

You could randomly change the names of any of these governments and swap slots around all day long and it would still be Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood.

This is not a good representation of real world politics. It's just a simple board game.

You can throw any of these governments at me and it would work. I'd still win the same way, with the same strategy, against the same incompetent AI.

Government names and slots mean nothing. They are just for show.
americanman_4_life Nov 21, 2016 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by SamBC:
You can keep discussing whether or not communism is the best government in the game, but let's keep off the real world politics/geopolitics/history, as it just leads to huge arguments.

Not intentionally ignoring you, I assure you... but I might referrence reality comparing it to game.


Originally posted by Sc0ttm0:
I mean it never works in the real world so why does it work the best here?

To answer your question (The OP), in my opinion... Communism in and of itself in reality, as designed on paper, is set to make a perfect society where everyone is equal in it's populace. As mentioned here, when you take theory from paper and apply to the reality we all live in, it comes down to people. If everyone honored and partaked their part in society towards communism, it would work and be more effective. However... not everyone does their part! Therefore the loss of balance in the system will eventually cause the system, and the society supporting it, to collapse. Mostly!

However... take that theory, plug into a game, with preprogramming of game code, where everyone in the digital society within the game program does as the society chooses, the coding allows the society to be viewed as succesful! Also, this up to the player of the society!

There are exceptions...

Originally posted by zambasshik:
Originally posted by Sendokami:
The problem with communism is the people. In theory it works wonderful but the problem is that humans are inherently power seekers. We seek the greatest gain for the least amount of effort with variability for personality. Why work hard every day at your job when it wont change anything? Why take a risk on something when at best nothing changes and at worse you make trouble for yourself? Then we have those people that seek to be on top. They are in every society and will always seek to exert their power over others.

Communism in of itself is a fine idea its just incompatible with the human race as of now.

I agree to an extent. Communism hasn't been used on any major nation with a stable and strong econmy (like the US). The Soviets and the now the Russians, have never had a strong stable work force / economy. I think the degree of Social Loafing will be less than that of other nations if a major power today switched, but it would be present none-the-less

...and to correct you, one exception is China! People's Republic of China, a communist party, China is considered one of the most influential Societies in today's world. Their economy is obviously one of, if not (regrettably admitting), the top economy, of the world... as they own most of America's (USA) Debt! Their military and influence is finally catching up as well, with the support of strong economy supporting advancment in research.

Will this last?? We shall see!!
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