METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

Sekkuar666 Jan 3, 2016 @ 8:22pm
[SPOILERS] About Miller
Okay, some of you guys may know about the scene with Code Talker where he says something like "Eyes on Kazuhira, a message from the parasites", and the fact left unexplained as to why his eyes looks fogged just like Code Talker's

Now, the obvious explanation is that he has the nanoparasites, but for reasons (cut content maybe?) it was left unexplained on the game.

Ok, hold that thought and let me go over something else that always bothered me...
In MGS1, Liquid, that's on his early 30s (and showing no sign of accelerated aging yet) manages to impersonate "Master Miller" just by putting on some glasses.

What's bothering me is: In 2005, during the Shadow Moses incident, Miller should look at least as old as Ocelot, so how did a man in his 30s managed to fool everyone with some sunglasses?

Well, I finally connected the two dots, and the answer is, of course, nanoparasites.

Remember, both The End and Code Talker had their lifespan extended to over a hundred years thanks to the parasites, this means the parasites slows down aging. If Miller was subjected to parasite therapy on afghanistan in 1984, this could have caused him to look much younger than he actually was later on, making it possible for Liquid to impersonate him.
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maDEMOman Jan 3, 2016 @ 8:28pm 
id say that when code talker says that to venom, hes talking about kaz's lust for revenge.
morbidslinky Jan 3, 2016 @ 9:41pm 
In the Japanese version, Code Talker says something along the lines of "Be wary of Kazuhira" or something like that.
f. Jan 3, 2016 @ 9:55pm 
We will never know.
Bansheebutt Jan 3, 2016 @ 10:06pm 
Pretty sure Code Talker's statement is meant as a refrence to how Miller trained Solid Snake and would then go on to support him in the mission that ended with Venom's death. Aka, Metal Gear.

As far as how young he looks in MGS:

1. If MGS ever got that full on remake Kojima speculated on, his agedness would've been one of the first corrections.

2. It's a japanese game. The only characters who ever actually look at all old are the ones who are implied to have lived for an extremely long time. Remember Solidus? I think he was supposed to be in his 60s. (as part of his cover. I Realize his agedness is actually part of the imperfect cloning process) Apart from his hair, he looks like a stressed 40.

As for Ocelot, his first appearence being an oldster was made far before the backstory would go on to be made.
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lexilogo Jan 4, 2016 @ 3:24am 
I always thought he was talking about the fact Kaz was squandering DD's black budget on hamburger production, supposedly behind Snake's back (But for some reason, Kaz's tapes fall into his hands anyway and he just doesn't say anything).

A lot of these explanations make more sense, though.
Sekkuar666 Jan 4, 2016 @ 3:54am 
Originally posted by Maddyo_Swan:
lust for revenge.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Originally posted by yayie:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NeverBeGameOver/comments/3vih8e/tpp_a_theory_of_everything_no_gold_tinfoil/

But all his questions are answered in the mission 51 video though.


Originally posted by lexilogo:
I always thought he was talking about the fact Kaz was squandering DD's black budget on hamburger production, supposedly behind Snake's back (But for some reason, Kaz's tapes fall into his hands anyway and he just doesn't say anything).

A lot of these explanations make more sense, though.
LOL, seriously?
That wouldn't have to be a "message from the parasites", Code Talker was accomplice #1 to that
Sekkuar666 Jan 4, 2016 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by Bansheebot:

Well yes, you can dismiss everything as "old game, new game, deal with it"

But still, Kojima said this game was supposed to be "the missing link to complete that completes the saga", you would think that instead of retcons, he would at least make an effort to close some plot holes.

Such as the fact that Solid Snake had to fight Big Boss twice, which was now explained to not have been Big Boss the first time but actually Venom Snake
lexilogo Jan 4, 2016 @ 4:13am 
Originally posted by Sekkuar:
Originally posted by lexilogo:
I always thought he was talking about the fact Kaz was squandering DD's black budget on hamburger production, supposedly behind Snake's back (But for some reason, Kaz's tapes fall into his hands anyway and he just doesn't say anything).

A lot of these explanations make more sense, though.
LOL, seriously?
That wouldn't have to be a "message from the parasites", Code Talker was accomplice #1 to that

Yeah. I realize it doesn't make any sense now xP

Unless, of course, the parasites DO know you have the tapes, and they're actually trying to tell you Miller is developing hamburger-based nanomachines, son.
Sekkuar666 Jan 4, 2016 @ 4:28am 
Originally posted by lexilogo:
Unless, of course, the parasites DO know you have the tapes, and they're actually trying to tell you Miller is developing hamburger-based nanomachines, son.
He played us like a damn fiddle
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