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RabidHobbit Jul 28, 2024 @ 11:30pm
Monstium Collection not giving its bonus?
Is anyone else seeing that the Monstium Collection enhancement is not giving its 40% bonus to collection during exploration?

I just purchased it, and I notice that I still get the same amount of monstium from defeating the same enemies that I was getting immediately before acquiring it. I was getting between 39 and 49 monstium from enemies in the Hazardous Sector before, and I still am getting that much.
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Wraith_Magus Jul 29, 2024 @ 1:44pm 
Umm... no? I mean, it's kind of a general problem that the game only has that underline and tooltip breakdown of why the numbers are what they are for about half the things in the game, and things like monstrium income are things I am only even vaguely aware of. If I look in the compendium, it tells me that banshees are worth 13.8k monstrium, and then when I kill them, I'm getting 12.5B monstrium, which is slightly different, but I really can't break down why without having to break out a calculator and reverse-engineering the wonky geometric way that this game does math that completely contradicts the linear functions it's written like they are. (Where having a dozen "+10%" actually triple the value.) I can say that turning off enchant monstium catalysts+ makes the monstium income go from being measured in billions to millions, but I have to break out the calculator to see that having 27 monstium catalysts worth +45% is apparently worth x24,322.8 monstium gain compared to ONLY x21.32 monstium gain with just +12% boost without enhance monstium catalysts... And, really, that's not the kind of thing I second-guess without someone bringing it to my attention.

If you're talking about hazardous sector and double-digit monstium, however, you're pretty early in the game, so open up the compendium, look at those monsters, and compare what you're getting to what the compendium says they're worth. A sicklefish is worth 35 monstium without any boosts, so with a "+40%" boost, you should be gaining 49 monstium from one, provided there are NO OTHER multipliers that stack on.

Are you sure there weren't events that triggered in the background that you just turned off and didn't notice expired? Often, I find irregularities like this come down to an event like a mana spout boost or something whose notification I didn't read making my mana income spike, then I notice I have slack mana I can use for transmutation, then the event ends, and suddenly, I'm in the red in mana, and I have no idea why that happened without doing some forensics.
RabidHobbit Jul 29, 2024 @ 2:41pm 
Ok, I have a thought about maybe what happened and I'll test it in this run. I think maybe that enabling Monstium Collection changed the event log numbers. Because the way that I was verifying that the numbers didn't change was by looking at the log. If it retroactively changed the values in the log, then that would explain what I was seeing.

BTW, I wasn't expecting anyone to do calculations to try and figure this out. Just verify it during a new run: before getting the enhancement, see how much you get from 1 enemy. Then get the enhancement and fight the same enemy again, and see if it's 40% more or the same.

Edit: by "log" I mean the combat event log inside the game, not some kind of logfile somewhere (not sure if the game outputs one).
Last edited by RabidHobbit; Jul 29, 2024 @ 2:42pm
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