Salt and Sanctuary

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Please release the sequel on Steam
As of right now, the PC version is only being released on the Spyware Games Store https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/salt-and-sacrifice-pc-is-epic-exclusive

Please bring it to Steam. A lot of us don't want to have to install garbage on our computers in order to play it.
Última edição por saluteyourshorts; 12/fev./2022 às 9:49
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No One 12/fev./2022 às 10:50 
Well, they were going to, but now...

If you recall, S&S was a Playstation exclusive. This is how they operate.
paladin181 13/fev./2022 às 6:34 
Escrito originalmente por saluteyourshorts:
As of right now, the PC version is only being released on the Spyware Games Store https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/salt-and-sacrifice-pc-is-epic-exclusive

Please bring it to Steam. A lot of us don't want to have to install garbage on our computers in order to play it.
But you're willing to install Steam. All these DRM clients are garbage in the end, when they restrict your ability to download/play your own games. DRM-Free should always be the goal.
JHarlequin 13/fev./2022 às 22:18 
It supposedly isn't a direct sequel, and it is hopefully just a timed exclusive. That said, as someone else mentioned, just go ahead and hold on to epic games and watch for them to release it free during some event and get it for free. The dev still gets paid and epic eats the cost.

Or just hope that they eventually do the release on steam.
gungadin22000 14/fev./2022 às 12:41 
Many games released on Epic are later re-released on Steam. This will likely be the same.

Wait a bit if "not buying things on Epic" is a big deal for you. You may even get a "new to steam" discount.
Valeriya 14/fev./2022 às 15:41 
Considering that Salt and Sanctuary still has technical problems that have never been solved, crashes in particular, where these users 👇
https://steamcommunity.com/app/283640/discussions/2/
have never received any response, perhaps it is better to stay on the epic store, as Sanctuary is no longer updated or supported anymore.
=M$= Oroberus 14/fev./2022 às 21:22 
As usual, if they go for any sort of epic exclusiveness, they already got a metric ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of money up front, so just wait for a 80% deal on Steam when it came to Steam, or just go get it for free.
SlantedRhetoric 15/fev./2022 às 15:48 
Escrito originalmente por gungadin22000:
Many games released on Epic are later re-released on Steam. This will likely be the same.

Wait a bit if "not buying things on Epic" is a big deal for you. You may even get a "new to steam" discount.

This. Seems like most games that are "exclusive" on the EGS seem to be limited exclusivity deals where they're only exclusive for a few months or something.
CheckMyProfile 18/fev./2022 às 7:30 
Cope and seethe lmao
Dekardi 26/fev./2022 às 7:49 
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never support a dev that goes epic exclusive, those devs prove they dont care about their fanbase/costumers so dont care about the devs
epic shills should leave steam anyway
Stryker 26/fev./2022 às 19:47 
Escrito originalmente por Dekardi:
never support a dev that goes epic exclusive, those devs prove they dont care about their fanbase/costumers so dont care about the devs
epic shills should leave steam anyway
Merque 19/abr./2022 às 9:10 
It's incredible how people are going to hate on epic and yet defend a quasi monopolist at the same time. Weird sense of principles.
Stryker 19/abr./2022 às 13:59 
Escrito originalmente por Merque:
It's incredible how people are going to hate on epic and yet defend a quasi monopolist at the same time. Weird sense of principles.

Can you direct me to the time where Valve told someone they could only release a game on their platform and no one else's?
Merque 19/abr./2022 às 22:37 
Escrito originalmente por Strykerx88:
Escrito originalmente por Merque:
It's incredible how people are going to hate on epic and yet defend a quasi monopolist at the same time. Weird sense of principles.

Can you direct me to the time where Valve told someone they could only release a game on their platform and no one else's?

Nope I can't, but I can't do that either for Epic - because companies don't "go out there and tell someone" what to do unless they have a contractual agreement with said entity.

What I CAN tell you is to look up Steam's market share and say based on that: before Epic, either u released on Steam or u went broke (unless u're EA or Ubisoft - but ♥♥♥♥ them anyhow) - or u were a hopeless romantic thinking u could get away with a GoG only release.

So in the past that left devs with either swallowing that MASSIVE 30% cut Steam takes or go and ♥♥♥♥ off.

Edit: obviously I'm talking pc game market only - before someone tries to be cheeky and comes around with some crappy f2p mobile phone game that makes untold billions of revenue because of some junkies.
Última edição por Merque; 19/abr./2022 às 22:40
JarlFrank 21/abr./2022 às 8:00 
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Escrito originalmente por Merque:
What I CAN tell you is to look up Steam's market share and say based on that: before Epic, either u released on Steam or u went broke (unless u're EA or Ubisoft - but ♥♥♥♥ them anyhow) - or u were a hopeless romantic thinking u could get away with a GoG only release.

So in the past that left devs with either swallowing that MASSIVE 30% cut Steam takes or go and ♥♥♥♥ off.

Nobody does GoG only, but Steam AND GoG is a great way to give the user a choice of his preferred store. Epic exclusivity deals mean that for as long as the game is exclusive, you don't have that choice. It's Epic only.

30% is the industry standard btw, and it's absolutely miniscule compared to what publishers and retail stores used to eat in the past, before Steam revolutionized digital distribution. The whole narrative that 30% is a huge cut and totally unfair is a notion spread by indie developers who expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Just ask devs who worked on games in the 90s and 00s what they think about it. They'll tell you it's the best offer they ever had.

But okay, granted, Epic does offer developers a better deal. But what does Epic offer the customers? A broken storefront that hasn't even implemented basic features years after release. They even refuse to implement user reviews and claim that to be a good thing, and entitled developers cheer because it means they can't receive negative reviews if their game sucks. On Steam and GoG, you can always check user reviews to see if a game is good or not. On Epic you can't. And it doesn't have user forums either, unlike Steam and GoG.

The existence of GoG already dispells any claims of "exclusivity". Steam never offered anyone an exclusivity deal. There are tons of games on Steam that are also available elsewhere: GoG, itch.io, and even the developer's own private website. The reason a lot of Steam games aren't on GoG is because GoG is a curated store where they have to approve your game before it goes on sale there. Steam is an open platform where anyone can publish anything. This means even a one-man indie dev working from his basement can release his game here and has a chance at being discovered. While this leads to a flood of crap, it also leads to some hidden gems - look at the recently released Vampire Survivors for an example of a small game made by one guy that suddenly blew up and sold tens of thousands of copies. Only a truly open platform like Steam makes this possible. Oh, and the game is not an exclusive, it is also available on itch.io.

Epic on the other hand makes deals with developers that prevent them from releasing their games on other platforms. If you don't like Steam, you often have alternatives. If you don't like Epic, you're outta luck. Either bite the bullet and deal with their crappy store, or wait until the exclusivity deal expires. It's a terrible business model and understandably pisses people off. And it's not about being a Steam fanboy, it's about having a choice as a customer. With most of the games I buy, I have the choice between Steam and either GoG or itch.io depending on where the developer chose to release the game. Remember when Pheonix Point, a game that got financed on Kickstarter and offered its backers the choice between a Steam and a GoG version, suddenly announced a one-year Epic exclusivity? All the backers who expected to get the choice between two storefronts were pissed when they were told that the game would be exclusive to a different storefront for a year... one that is inferior in every single way to the other two storefronts.

That's the kind of business Epic conducts. Don't offer anything to the customer, bribe devs with exclusive deals that remove the choice of storefront from customers, and claim that Steam is a big evil monopoly that steals money from devs (which couldn't be further from the truth). I cannot support a company like that. I have games on Steam, GoG, itch.io, and have bought some games directly from the developer's own website, but I do not have an Epic account and never will.
Cake for Mumm-Ra 21/abr./2022 às 8:22 
Escrito originalmente por JarlFrank:
Epic exclusivity deals mean that for as long as the game is exclusive, you don't have that choice. It's Epic only.
The sequel isn't going to be released only on Epic. It isn't an "Epic exclusive".

Salt and Sacrifice is going to be released on May 10 for PC (Epic), PS4 and PS5. The dev said it's coming to Steam but haven't announced a date.
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