Abandoned Game?

[mar3usmc]

No patches or updates ever?

Feels as though the devs feel their game doesn't need any further balancing, or content for that matter. Feels unpolished (not unfinished), and could really use some big balance patches, and a content patch for more weapons (daggers, whips, and a few others I am sure, need love).

[League of Legends]

Originally posted by Cake for Žižek:

Let's chill with the personal insults.

Tells him to chill then just bans him lol

[Cake for Mumm-Ra]

Originally posted by Shreker of Worlds:

Originally posted by Cake for Žižek:

Let's chill with the personal insults.

Tells him to chill then just bans him lol

Dudes been trolling on this forum since the early days. The ban was a long time coming, tbh.

[League of Legends]

Originally posted by Cake for Žižek:

Originally posted by Shreker of Worlds:

Tells him to chill then just bans him lol

Dudes been trolling on this forum since the early days. The ban was a long time coming, tbh.

Oh didn't know that lol. But not surprised he deserved it lmao. Also wtf do you mean abandoned? I mean I could see if they promised dlc and/or continuous updates as a selling point to buy our game then they should be adding extra to the game or patching things in with complains make everything a lot smoother than it already is. But they don't owe you anything other than this product in a working condition

[Grokitach]

Originally posted by xXxNADIExXx:

Originally posted by mar3usmc:

Additionally, no dagger, NONE, out damages the Tachi. They don't even come close. Have you even tried other weapons outside of daggers?

Yes, Hammers, Bighammers, greatswords (my first game), a just bow run, daggers (my favorite) , swords, with mage (OP), cleric/dagger, i dont play whips yet

Death Jaws are the most OP weapon of the game, period.

Two handed, press Y repeatedly, melt bosses with over 400 damages per hit, and it has a huge attack speed and range.

I've tested a lot of different builds with Cheat Engine, and nothing can even come close to this. Full STR + Faith build for buffs with Deathjaws. The game is so easy then, it's not even fun anymore.

I heard that mages are really strong too, maybe even more OP than Deathjaws.


Also, the game is fine, I don't see why it would require updates. We could still dream about online multiplayer but it will never come.

[*Yuki*]

this game isnt abandoned, but finished. Still agree, that further development or ever paid dlc could be nice

[mar3usmc]

Wow, never imagined this thread would garner such strong reactions.

My take is simple, the game feels unfinished, THAT IS MY FEELING. May not be true in the developers eyes. However, all that matters is what a customer feels, and if you want your custumers to come back and purchase another product they have to like the previous product.

As is, I wouldn't purchase another of their games. I think they ran out of time/money, and just published, worked out the game breaking bugs, and moved on. Their right to do so as they have to feed themselves/family. However, it is also my right to take my money elsewhere when they publish their next product, if they ever do again.

Game development is far too competative to leave what some may feel is an unfinished game up for people to see, and, therefore, judge what your future work may be. I already have a pretty long ♥♥♥♥ list of game devs I will never purchase from again, and these guys are on that list unless they decide to improve their "finished" game.

[S7.RainbowDash]

They updated it not that long ago, in march I think. Plus it's a fairly old game, I think it's fine, don't seem to be needing anymore fixes, tweets maybe, but that's probably more of a subjective issue. I wouldn't mind seeing a story dlc for this, or to know if and what they are working on next !

[stevo]

Originally posted by mar3usmc:

Wow, never imagined this thread would garner such strong reactions.

My take is simple, the game feels unfinished, THAT IS MY FEELING. May not be true in the developers eyes. However, all that matters is what a customer feels, and if you want your custumers to come back and purchase another product they have to like the previous product.

As is, I wouldn't purchase another of their games. I think they ran out of time/money, and just published, worked out the game breaking bugs, and moved on. Their right to do so as they have to feed themselves/family. However, it is also my right to take my money elsewhere when they publish their next product, if they ever do again.

Game development is far too competative to leave what some may feel is an unfinished game up for people to see, and, therefore, judge what your future work may be. I already have a pretty long ♥♥♥♥ list of game devs I will never purchase from again, and these guys are on that list unless they decide to improve their "finished" game.

You said in the OT that you didn't feel the game was unfinished. Maybe you should just make your mind up.

This game is 100% finished. Stuff like minor imbalance in the mechanics etc do not make an unfinished game. Jesus, how much stuff is wrong with similar AAA titles? There's plenty of broken, unbalanced crap in Dark Souls.

If you feel this way about not supporting a developer then you're just nuts, because no one in their right mind could play this from start to finish and call it unfinished.


Game development is competetive... umm, maybe you should also learn what an audience is. There are not many people creating these styles of games. Search for a sidescrolling metroidvania with difficulty and Souls mechanics... you're coming up with this game and not much else. Ska studios will do fine, and won't miss you 20 bucks one bit.

[mar3usmc]

Yes, I was being too nice in my OP. However, since you want to bring it up I will just come out and say the game does feel unfinished the more I have played it, not the opposite. You can also find on the wiki many items, still in the code, that never made it ingame that would have been perfectly fine. i.e. Not Finished.

Also, it isn't just my 20 USD. It will be that plus future titles, not just one. Plus negative review, which cost more sales. Oh, and this post that I am sure many potential buyers have read, and decided not to purchase because of it. I know I am not the only one who feels the game is unfinished as is evident from other posters.

Don't even put this game into Dark Souls League. This game is no where close to the same quality product. Dark Souls is pretty well balanced, just not noob friendly. Again, difficulties between the two games are vastly different. I don't know where people get off saying this game is difficult. IMO it is a pretty easy game. Just don't compare the two. Same style of game in their feel, but mechanically, multiplayer, 2D vs 3D, and on and on, they are DIFFERENT games.

[Lupos Dios]

Originally posted by mar3usmc:

You can also find on the wiki many items, still in the code, that never made it ingame that would have been perfectly fine.

how can you say that it would have been perfectly fine?

[Gosen]

Who cares about balance in pve game, lol? If something is OP and you don't like it, just don't use it.

I hope this project is not abandoned, though. I want sequel :( Hollow Knight just doesn't have it, you know...

[clcman]

Hold on a second... You're boycotting a company for life because they made a game that has CUT CONTENT!? EVERY video game has cut content. If you were applying that standard fairly, then by this point you'd only be able to buy games from new indy publishers, and even then only buy one from each before they end up on the ban list too. How are you supposed to punish companies for actual wrongdoing like false advertising, exploitative microtransactions or broken-on-launch releases? You'll end up like the ancient Greek lawmaker Draco, who had the death penalty for minor crimes and so couldn't come up with anything to punish greater crimes.

If you've played the game as much as you say you have, there has to be SOMETHING you enjoyed about it. Why don't you focus on that instead of burning a bridge because the developer was unable to meet your arbitrary and impossibly high standard of QA polish?

[*Yuki*]

actually, cut content isnt good practice to support. Not like denuvo, but still.

[mar3usmc]

It is not the fact that there is cut content. You are focusing on one thing I said and blowing it way out of proportion. It is the entire picture; that was one aspect of it. On the whole, gameplay, balance, content, unfinished content, content in the game that feels unfinished, etc ... I FEEL the game is unfinished, and could use more work. That is my opinion, disagree if you like.

In general, to not purchase another product/service for life from a company because their previous product/service was not up to a customers standard of quality is not illogical. It is actually very common. Would you hire the same guy to work on your home after he built you a crooked fence? Would you rehire a plumber that fixed an issue just as you needed, but took 5x longer than it should have? It is simple competition dynamics, and in a free market the weak suffer and eventually die out, while the strong survive, and perhaps even thrive.

Not everyone gets a trophy for trying, not out in the real world, and not in the gaming community. Not saying the game sucks. It does have some innovative aspects, and some decent gameplay. However, it is still not up to my standards. If it meets yours then purchase their next products at full price. I will save my finite hard earned funds for a better quality product, or, possibly, when I feel the price of this companie's future product has fallen to a level that matchs the level of quality I know them for I may purchase another of their titles.

[Lupos Dios]

Originally posted by mar3usmc:

Would you hire the same guy to work on your home after he built you a crooked fence?

there is a difference though, if you order a company to build you a fence and he ♥♥♥♥♥ it up he has to do it right or you revoke the contract.you also could inform yourself about the company you order to build you a fence to see if they are up to the job.

When you want to buy a game you can also inform yourself about the state of the game and watch videos about it and can ask and discuss with others if this game is for you.if you buy it and find it unfinished in your opinion than you have to live with it or refund it.The product itself has left development and is therefore considered completed. Anything after that is additional Support.