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Marc Episode 2 is literally impossible to beat.
I've tried it 4 times now and was NOWHERE even CLOSE to beating it. What the hell, am I doing something wrong?
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Daxy Jul 8, 2021 @ 8:45am 
What difficulty settings are you playing on?
Is there a certain opponent that specifically gives you trouble?
Hinalyte Jul 8, 2021 @ 8:59am 
It could be just a bad rng. This setup looks pretty normal and you could've cleared a similar episode before. The only problems here if it ever exists are Aru being able to rapidly gain stars, and Poppo being able to steal your stars (but she's literally present in every normal base game campaign, so that's not really a problem in this specific episode).

Christmas Miracle is also a map where the Encounter Panels are completely optional.
What happens when you play this episode? Like, what tends to go wrong, and who tends to win, and why?
Sorry I admittedly havent given enough info, yeah.
It's THAT rabbit santa (Aur?) somehow speedrunning into the level 6. I don't have many chances, but I try to deter her where I can.
Kraleck Jul 8, 2021 @ 5:07pm 
The best advice for Marc Campaign 2 is to play Fernet if you have her. Otherwise, play someone with good Defense that can bully Poppo and Aru, hold onto cards as long as possible to prevent Aru's Hyper getting maximum value, and avoiding getting KO'd by anyone in combat (Cloud of Seagulls can work as a panic button if you're lucky).

It may help to bring cards that are expensive (Super All-Out Mode, Little War, Sealed Guardian, etc.) and avoid using them yourself (CPU players seem to use these cards whenever they can). Avoid bringing Portable Pudding, Extend, Dinner, or Pudding. Mimic can get some use if you're lucky, especially if you play as Fernet (don't use her Hyper unless you can guarantee a KO on everyone else) or anyone else with a pricey Hyper besides Marc (her 4 HP will cost you time on Recovery rolls).
Tekkahedron Jul 8, 2021 @ 6:26pm 
Tanks don't beat collectors like Aru and Poppo, especially on White Winter. Collectors want to hide away from their opponents while they gain stars. Tanks want to stay healthy while their opponents get screwed by bad RNG. White Winter is way to large and safe for these two and the CPU Fernet isn't going to do squat to help you.

Your best bet it an offensive character like Yuki or Kai with cards like Dash!, Party Time, Overtime, and Gentleman's Battle (if you have it).

Originally posted by Kraleck:
It may help to bring cards that are expensive (Super All-Out Mode, Little War, Sealed Guardian, etc.) and avoid using them yourself (CPU players seem to use these cards whenever they can).

This and the bit about mimic are correct though. :tsih:
Last edited by Tekkahedron; Jul 8, 2021 @ 6:27pm
vgma2 Jul 8, 2021 @ 7:40pm 
Yeah, first time I played Kai's campaign, I had trouble against Aru too. She's the biggest threat on this stage. You pretty much want to counter-play Aru heavily. Take a closer look at her abilities and stat line and you'll start to see her weaknesses. Keep a full hand of cards as often as you can so that she doesn't get much stars off you from using her hyper. You probably also want to avoid bringing any cards that force other players to discard cards too, otherwise that makes Aru's job easier.

Aru is fragile and mostly doesn't like to pick fights. So chase her down and attack her lots until you can finish her off and steal all the stars she's been collecting from her hyper.
I'm surprised you're saying that Aru is the biggest threat here, since when I played I remember Aru being a pushover. Then again, that was back when she had only +1 evade and could only hold 3 cards.

However, the fact that she has crap for battle stats, -1/-1/+2, means that you should basically treat her as a punching bag whenever possible.

I wonder if it'll also help to bring battle cards that increase attack power; she can't do as much with them as you can if you already have good attack power.

This is in addition to vgma2's suggestion that you bring cards that can't be used easily. Aru's hyper generates stars out of nowhere by giving people cards; if you clog up everyone's hands with expensive cards, she can only gain 10 stars from it. (If everyone's hands are empty, she can gain 130 stars.)

I looked up what this episode features as your opponents and they are Aru, Fernet, and Poppo. The bad news is that they won't fight each other. The good news is that they aren't very inclined to fight you either. You can just bring your best fighting unit, and Marc will do just fine here. Fernet will just keep taking damage and eventually fall, as will Poppo. Aru's the only one with positive evasion among your enemies, but if you keep bullying her you're likely to break through and you only need to get lucky a couple times or so to flatten her.

FYI, Marc's hyper can be awkward to use since its usefulness changes over the course of a match, but one of its best uses is to weaken an opponent in front of you (since you know what their HP is and you know exactly how much your hyper will do -- i.e. exactly your norma level) just so you can swoop in for the kill and grab half their stars. Note that this tactic will not work on Aru if you're already at level 5 (since this will just KO her all the way), so if you have any hypers on you you should watch your opponents' HP levels.

Using this tactic on Fernet and Poppo is particularly fruitful since they are relatively unable to avoid your attacks.

Given that this board is relatively sparse on battle panels, you should not rely on wins norma (unless you by chance already have it finished). Your hyper is thus not very useful for generating wins; rather, it's only useful for softening up opponents in preparation for mugging them. Pretty much the only time you should use your hyper simply to cause KO is someone is about to win (i.e. 200 stars and within 6 spaces of either their home or fighting someone who is on another home panel) and you are desperately in need of stopping them. (And maaaaybe if you are in very early game and can use that card to generate 2 wins in order to quickly get to norma level 3 right that turn.)

Marc incidentally also has reasonably decent stars on her own, and doesn't really rely on card usage. So it's less of a problem to clog up your own hand with useless cards.

FYI, between SAOM, Little War, and Sealed Guardian, I recommend Little War. SAOM could potentially benefit everyone, so I feel meh about it. I do not recommend Sealed Guardian if you are playing Marc, since you have negative evade; you'd be doing Aru a favor if someone else plays it unexpectedly, since at 1 HP everyone is reliant on evade rolls.
Last edited by Quint the Alligator Snapper; Jul 8, 2021 @ 10:55pm
Marc Episode 2
Field: Christmas Miracle
Opponents: Poppo, Aru, Fernet
Event: Miracle

Conclusion: Good map and event for these characters (Poppo and Aru for their exceptionally good star-gathering and Fernet for her extreme endurance), so your best bet will be:

* Timing a really powerful attack (Accel Hyper, SAOM+Big Magnum, etc) to one-hit-kill them;
* Mimicking Poppo/Aru's hyper for yourself and use them properly;
* Weakening them through prolonged battles (Little War, Last Battle, continuous attacking, etc).
* Bringing cards with high costs (not gonna lie this one helped me so many times).

People have elaborated about it detailed enough, so may luck find you.
Thanks for all the help! I had given up on it but I'll try it again with all the advice soon
『Mr.Lucky』 Jul 11, 2021 @ 4:32am 
My only advice is... just play on online multiplayer lobby

once you understand how this game works and all characters gimmicks it will be easy to finish all single player campaign even on rigged RNG extreme difficulty, hell I didn't even finish singleplayer campaign until I have 1k hrs playtime irrc

if you play singleplayer to unlock characters then I suggest you to play on casual difficulty
Last edited by 『Mr.Lucky』; Jul 11, 2021 @ 4:34am
Personally I suggest using the campaign to learn the mechanics, which means playing on Normal difficulty, or playing on Original difficulty knowing that it's designed to present a difficulty curve. Also because 100 oranges to unlock each character is a lot, especially if you're starting out but even at higher level play.

But it almost doesn't matter which one you do; the only thing you don't get from playing Casual is the achievement unlocks.
Last edited by Quint the Alligator Snapper; Jul 11, 2021 @ 5:45am
F IAaP n Jul 20, 2021 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Mayyple:
Originally posted by DeRockProject (jongyon7192p):
I've tried it 4 times now and was NOWHERE even CLOSE to beating it. What the hell, am I doing something wrong?
lol git gud, this post made by Purple Crown gang :lmao::cocochan2:
no u
Genius Venator Jul 20, 2021 @ 11:17am 
My tips is simple, as some ppl just said: Use Tomomo, grab only expensive and useless cards, do not engage in fights unless you see that it's advantageous, do not use cards unless you need or it's good, speed up the game with ctrl + shift and... keep playing only star normas and good luck, one time you will win.

(If you are playing in Expert)
Last edited by Genius Venator; Jul 20, 2021 @ 11:17am
Hat8 Jul 26, 2021 @ 10:53pm 
Originally posted by DeRockProject (jongyon7192p):
Sorry I admittedly havent given enough info, yeah.
It's THAT rabbit santa (Aur?) somehow speedrunning into the level 6. I don't have many chances, but I try to deter her where I can.
Kill them and steal their stars.
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