Multihack users in FFA

[ovo]

Why do my threads get deleted? How is this not a LEGITIMATE CONCERN?

[ᴴᴬᴴᴬ XDS]

Don't be that guy, there's people screaming all the time that someone is cheating. Just because someone rapes you doesn't mean they're cheating, unless you're an actual good player the chances of someone being a lot better then you are quite high and even then someone can outplay you at a certain day/map/weapon/gamemode.

[Unnamed Slayer]

See this is the bit I don't understand. I can only assume the complete and utter denial is that they are part of the problem or that they just don't lknow what to look for.
I think the reason people don't assume a lot of people are cheating is they are used to it, so used to it that they don't notice the stuble difference. I've been playing this game since it's inception in 99 and thing were different. Alot.
The things to note are that cheaters don't use 100% accuracy. The multihacks/aimbots these days are intelligent enough to make you look normal, so you don't get caught. This is important because a caught cheat is a useless one.
You have to be a bit naive to think that a hack/cheater/aimbot is just someone staring at walls and hitting 100% rail, they aren't.

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
[irony} Queue 50+ people telling me I'm wrong and clueless [/irony}

[mapamapa]

Dan původně napsal:

See this is the bit I don't understand. I can only assume the complete and utter denial is that they are part of the problem or that they just don't lknow what to look for.
I think the reason people don't assume a lot of people are cheating is they are used to it, so used to it that they don't notice the stuble difference. I've been playing this game since it's inception in 99 and thing were different. Alot.
The things to note are that cheaters don't use 100% accuracy. The multihacks/aimbots these days are intelligent enough to make you look normal, so you don't get caught. This is important because a caught cheat is a useless one.
You have to be a bit naive to think that a hack/cheater/aimbot is just someone staring at walls and hitting 100% rail, they aren't.

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
{irony} Queue 50+ people telling me I'm wrong and clueless {/irony}

Quake 3 was a different game with different netcode.
Of course cheaters use humanized aimbots to hide their cheats.

I don't see anything suspicious in that Strenx video though. I'd gladly listen to what's so suspicious about it.

There are cheaters, but most of the accusations are just bad players calling out better ones because they can't understand how people can be that much better than themselves. How do I know this? Because I've been called a cheater a thousand times and even kicked from servers because people think I cheated, and there are tons of people waaay better than me.

[FlashSoul]

Dan původně napsal:

I think the reason people don't assume a lot of people are cheating is they are used to it, so used to it that they don't notice the stuble difference. I've been playing this game since it's inception in 99 and thing were different. Alot.

I think it has more to do with the fact that any semidecent player has been accused of cheating countless times so it gets harder to trust people when they say another person cheats.

[76561198256353981]

U can find here baksteen from holland {ODKAZ SMAZÁN}http://www.maxcheaters.com/user/138143-baksteen/
its the same person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsPJcg216bI

[dreamy]

eesh původně napsal:

freneticz původně napsal:

I can understand your concerns. I know one player who used to be shot and nowadays he is way better than me. He improved a lot and I suspect that he is cheating.

Do I have a proof? NO

Should I care?NO

As lonng as my skills are improving I don't give a ♥♥♥♥. When it comes to real battle, nobody will cheat. thats it.

Cheaters are never going to be in tournaments...

Cool stroy bro. ---> strenx prediction wallhack Zotac 105 final vs pavel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ38XrxscSs&feature=related
quake 3 was ruined by cheaters, the same here. Cheaters gonna cheat.

lmao
you do know strenx is LAN proven right?
and that in his prime he was one of the best aerowalk players alive?
and that everybody considers those videos a joke? (http://www.esreality.com/post/2286140/strenx-france-hack-zotac/)
like come on man.

[VoDa]

These online money games I would make them stream if they cant stream they cant play. AKA FO

Even the lowest power stream can eliminate Wallhack as for aim assist thats a dif story even thats possable on lans!

Maybe a thread should be started not naming people but what to look for!

The only thing we can count on now is the server admins because VAC obv doesnt work!

[The Thorne]

Only people who cheat here ever are casual randoms who want to look big many of us having been playing for 7 years here and 15 years in total and why would we keep coming back to an old game and use cheats it is pointless. There are only a handful of people who can beat me consistantly in FFA and if they are cheating that would make me the best non cheat in Europe and I am defintely not as I am casual as hell these days. so QED no cheats here.

[^1K^7r3m]

eesh původně napsal:

freneticz původně napsal:

I can understand your concerns. I know one player who used to be shot and nowadays he is way better than me. He improved a lot and I suspect that he is cheating.

Do I have a proof? NO

Should I care?NO

As lonng as my skills are improving I don't give a ♥♥♥♥. When it comes to real battle, nobody will cheat. thats it.

Cheaters are never going to be in tournaments...

Cool stroy bro. ---> strenx prediction wallhack Zotac 105 final vs pavel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ38XrxscSs&feature=related
quake 3 was ruined by cheaters, the same here. Cheaters gonna cheat.

If this is your criteria for cheating, you need to keep practicing. Looking in obvious places on aerowalk is far from cheating. Clearly, there are several times where he's nowhere near where the player is. Aside from that, calling one of the best LAN proven Quake dulers in the world a cheater is about as nooby as it gets.

[^7B0NE^2$^71967^2k^7ID]

im just glad that quakelive is on steam i play quake since 1997 and from 1997 to 2005 i took quake very sirious i always wanted to be 1 st or 2nd im 48 i play for fun now dont care if i win or not ,but when quakelife came to steam lots of people that will beat me like 10 to 2 and now i beat them 10 to 0 why bicuase hey were hacking no skills i even call one out the other day i told hi what happen i suck now u was good in brouser i guss your hax dont work everyone started to laghf i told him let go 1 vs so people can se you cant beat me and he say no know thats a hacker im mi opinon and yes hackers mest q3 up so bad and its sad im a quaker 4 life i love this game and yes im not to good now meds back ex ex plus im 48 dont realy care i just enjoy playing with friends and some of my friends ore since 1997 i use the same name in every game since 1997 lots of people know me but trust me when i realy want to play i get down 1967kID game on enjoy the game for what it is and yes dont go out saying people hax if u dont got a demo

[^7B0NE^2$^71967^2k^7ID]

Kr3m původně napsal:

eesh původně napsal:

Cool stroy bro. ---> strenx prediction wallhack Zotac 105 final vs pavel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ38XrxscSs&feature=related
quake 3 was ruined by cheaters, the same here. Cheaters gonna cheat.

If this is your criteria for cheating, you need to keep practicing. Looking in obvious places on aerowalk is far from cheating. Clearly, there are several times where he's nowhere near where the player is. Aside from that, calling one of the best LAN proven Quake dulers in the world a cheater is about as nooby as it gets.

look i play this game im old school look at his pointer fallowing him #1 #2 a good haxer will do thing on perpose so people wont think his haxin like his doing his a pro hacker simple just my opinion i dont want to start a war here its just my opinion

[76561198256353981]

old but gold hueheuhue
Djordje "ZeRoQL" Simonovic caught cheating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wOmo8GOovw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL-Bufc_PTs

[Unnamed Slayer]

The strenx video has lots of bits which are hard to tell if it's sound or WH, but 1:29 to 1:35ish . He has absolutely no way of hearing the guy on the other side of the map, He could rightly assume it, but he imo defintely holds back from walk up some stairs, looks back through a wall , pans in time with the guy before reaching the door and hits the top of his head with a reaction time of neo from the Matrix. Those types of reactions are just imo impossible, without foresight.

2:45 he tracks through wall, and fires at top of stairs without ever having seen the player.
There are many, but I have been very stringent on what counts, I fails to believe that sound can give you the knowledge of a players movements like ecolocation. Especially on Quake with it's crap stereo sound.

[cowboygeorgy]

Hallo. I completely agree with you, apparently i'm that guy too who can't stand cheaters. It's just spoil the whole experience for me. Just in case you wander i've been playin' it for more than 15 years. Im after fare and honest play where you use your brain and skill. This is so fun. But lately I just don't play anymore cause can't stand cheatin' bastards. Spectated tons of 'em have a couple of video evidence. Just in case you ask how i know.Plus experience, you know when the game goes in pretty much an unnatural manner. My poin is, at least in my case, It become utterly unbearable after a while to check everytime who's cheatin' or not. Takes away all the fun. And I simply gave up I don't play anymore. By the way tf2 and other online shooters are full of those so called hackers. Caught red handed tons of em. The solution is for us at least is to play in cyber cafe with lan than we can be sure that no one uses the 3rd party progs. Lastly to those who is still bein' sceptical about the whole thing you just can't imagine how many of those who is bein' a sneaky snake bastard out there. Hacks are real. The question is how YOU deal with it. I can't stand it so I chose not to play anymore. Would be nice to have a real "anti" hack detectors constantly updateable.Cheers !

[mapamapa]

Dan původně napsal:

The strenx video has lots of bits which are hard to tell if it's sound or WH, but 1:29 to 1:35ish . He has absolutely no way of hearing the guy on the other side of the map, He could rightly assume it, but he imo defintely holds back from walk up some stairs, looks back through a wall , pans in time with the guy before reaching the door and hits the top of his head with a reaction time of neo from the Matrix. Those types of reactions are just imo impossible, without foresight.

2:45 he tracks through wall, and fires at top of stairs without ever having seen the player.
There are many, but I have been very stringent on what counts, I fails to believe that sound can give you the knowledge of a players movements like ecolocation. Especially on Quake with it's crap stereo sound.

The thing from 1:29 to 1:35:
At 1:27 you can hear where he spawns so he knows he is there. From that spawn there's only three ways to go, to lg/ra, down the jumppad or across the upper ledge. Strenx first goes through the tele to hit him if he goes to the ledge, he is not showing up. Strenx starts moving up the stairs to see if he goes for LG or the hp bubbles there but then he hears him go to the ledge so he goes back and shoots him in the head. Nothing extraordinary..

At 2:45:
He is not tracking through the wall at all. He rails him at 2:41 and Pavel goes back towards lg/ra. It would not make sense for Pavel to jump down in the jumppad hole since he would easily get killed there(because Strenx is still at rail-tele area). Strenx decides to do an aggressive move and quickly goes up the stairs. Hopefully Pavel goes for LG/hp bubbles which would mean certain death, if he stays at the upper level Strenx might get a rail on him and if he double backs out on the ledge he will be able to escape. He goes for LG/bubbles. At 2:43 you can hear Pavel jump so Strenx knows he will be in the air and easily hittable. He prepares the shot by aiming into the wall(coming out at the right angle) and hits a pretty easy rail. Nothing extraordinary...

The only reason you are suspicious to this particular game is because some dude 4 years ago uploaded this demo with wolfcams wallhack effect on. ANY game between top players or even just good players on Aerowalk would have moments as these.