Clan Arena is a shame. (It's for campers.)

[Irigy Kutya]

Okey, I've been playing constantly now for weeks and getting back my old skills. In FFA I sometimes win, but I can always come in the middle, I'm pretty good in efreeze (my old mod), but in CA I just suck. I was wondering what can be the reason and now I get it. It's a damn CS:GO adapted to Quake. Everybody's camping in the corners and doors, spamming nades and rockets, and the whole thing is about being sneaky. It's a damn shame to quake cuz if someone wants to play like that there are many games out there but Quake should be about killing the most and raging around the map not staying alive, camp and play about patience.

But sometimes would be fun to play some team modes and TDM would be freaking cool but everybody is into this ****ty CA. Why? TDM servers are empty even if there is any. I hope they wont allow CA mode in Champions so this scum will get out of the game and go back to CS:GO and other games like that.

And before you say a freeze mod makes much more sense cuz there you can be melted and so come back to that round so you can make more risky moves for your team cuz if you manage some kills before you die they bring you back and you have the advantage. But CA is just boring as hell, too bad it takes away the players from other modes.

[Irigy Kutya]

Good to hear ITZLIBO! I wish other players would do it like you.

[digitalpanhandlr]

having played ca since Rocket arena.... i can safely say, anyone who complains about the playstyle, is just being outplayed.... its not about camping, its about positioning.... if you have a better position .... use it.... if your getting ♥♥♥♥ on by those guys, either figure out how to flank em, or stay the hell away.....

to many ppl think this is a COD run and gun game....

on a side note, i do agree that people play the same 5 maps over and over again, when theres a whole plethora of GOOD ra3 maps.... designed for CA

[0xii]

so i have played with and against you tonight in a CA server after seeing this post decided to watch you. noticed your aim was consistantly below 15%. Your movement was pretty bad failed rocket jumps and strafing into walls. decision making and weapon choices were pretty bad too.
You should probably work on these things and try to improve them.

[Irigy Kutya]

Messaggio originale di Øxi:

so i have played with and against you tonight in a CA server after seeing this post decided to watch you. noticed your aim was consistantly below 15%. Your movement was pretty bad failed rocket jumps and strafing into walls. decision making and weapon choices were pretty bad too.
You should probably work on these things and try to improve them.

I'm doing and I know my fails. But this campy thing kinda kills the feeling anyway in CA many times. But trying to get used to it. I'm doing LG practice against bots (especially mouse aim), doing some instagib to develop rail (but my rail is not that bad thanks to good old 1.31 efreeze times), and pracitcing rockets in FFA. But thanks for tips! My rocket jump and strafe is the more lacking but first I want to practice aim because I feel it more improtant.

[mapamapa]

First of all, play normal 4 vs 4 CA. Those 8 vs 8 can be relaxing and kinda fun sometimes but it is almost always a camp fest where you have to wait more than you play.
4 vs 4 on Campgrounds, Overkill, Asylum, Trinity and Quarantine (the best maps) is fun as hell and is almost never a camp fest, except on Overkill if one team decides not to go top.

It seems however that it is a lack of experience on your part. In FFA you can just go as fast as you can towards the enemy completely reckless since dying really doesn't matter. I often win with both most frags and most deaths. In CA you only have one life per round so you can't waste it doing something dumb or your team will lose. So positioning and knowing when and from where to engage is very important.

[Irigy Kutya]

Messaggio originale di mapamapa:

First of all, play normal 4 vs 4 CA. Those 8 vs 8 can be relaxing and kinda fun sometimes but it is almost always a camp fest where you have to wait more than you play.
4 vs 4 on Campgrounds, Overkill, Asylum, Trinity and Quarantine (the best maps) is fun as hell and is almost never a camp fest, except on Overkill if one team decides not to go top.

It seems however that it is a lack of experience on your part. In FFA you can just go as fast as you can towards the enemy completely reckless since dying really doesn't matter. I often win with both most frags and most deaths. In CA you only have one life per round so you can't waste it doing something dumb or your team will lose. So positioning and knowing when and from where to engage is very important.

Yeah i see it now I have to admit I was a bit in rage when I wrote this post cuz okey I'm new and bad but not that new and not that bad. :D But in those CA matches I only saw grenade and rocket spam in doors and much much camping what made me angry. And you're right I enjoy 5v5 and 4v4 matches more and can develop myself more at those matches.

But I'm kinda missin TDM cuz its like FFA in a team so you know you could enjoy teamplay but be more brave cuz dyin is not that important. But anyway, thanks for the advices and your kindess, I'll be practicing cuz I want to play this game (and the Champions when it will blow up some day) good cuz it's damn fun. :)

[Doctor Eggman]

Messaggio originale di ^5Nothing^3Special:

Messaggio originale di mapamapa:

First of all, play normal 4 vs 4 CA. Those 8 vs 8 can be relaxing and kinda fun sometimes but it is almost always a camp fest where you have to wait more than you play.
4 vs 4 on Campgrounds, Overkill, Asylum, Trinity and Quarantine (the best maps) is fun as hell and is almost never a camp fest, except on Overkill if one team decides not to go top.

It seems however that it is a lack of experience on your part. In FFA you can just go as fast as you can towards the enemy completely reckless since dying really doesn't matter. I often win with both most frags and most deaths. In CA you only have one life per round so you can't waste it doing something dumb or your team will lose. So positioning and knowing when and from where to engage is very important.

Yeah i see it now I have to admit I was a bit in rage when I wrote this post cuz okey I'm new and bad but not that new and not that bad. :D But in those CA matches I only saw grenade and rocket spam in doors and much much camping what made me angry. And you're right I enjoy 5v5 and 4v4 matches more and can develop myself more at those matches.

But I'm kinda missin TDM cuz its like FFA in a team so you know you could enjoy teamplay but be more brave cuz dyin is not that important. But anyway, thanks for the advices and your kindess, I'll be practicing cuz I want to play this game (and the Champions when it will blow up some day) good cuz it's damn fun. :)

To be fair Quake has always been terrible when there's more than 8 players in any map.

I don't understand why people host 24 player servers, there's only like 1-2 maps in the game big enough for that many; and they're rarely played. (Overlord and uhh... Distant Screams?)

Would love some Distant Screams servers since the map is stupidly huge.

[uNoT!brucelee]

Camping in CA was on Public for skilled players annoying too... You are talking ♥♥♥♥. This Camping ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ destroyed the whole game and mechanics what is quake about. And Clan Arena in VQ3 is the biggest joke ever made... Overkill makes no sense in vq3 because everybody is on top... This makes no sense! The same on DM6 everybody is on bridge... biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... And annoying because it exist since quake 3 this problem... I mean Theater of Pain is not a vq3 map! This map is toooo big. If you play it on CPM in q3 its hard if there are only 2 left but in vq3 its annoying. And Ql destroyed cpm in CA... This is the most annoying fact... Whatever if you think you are pro then dont play public. THATS A FACT... (I mean with pro = camping)

[Doctor Eggman]

Messaggio originale di ^1-^7ffa^1-^7brucelee:

Camping in CA was on Public for skilled players annoying too... You are talking ♥♥♥♥. This Camping ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ destroyed the whole game and mechanics what is quake about. And Clan Arena in VQ3 is the biggest joke ever made... Overkill makes no sense in vq3 because everybody is on top... This makes no sense! The same on DM6 everybody is on bridge... biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... And annoying because it exist since quake 3 this problem... I mean Theater of Pain is not a vq3 map! This map is toooo big. If you play it on CPM in q3 its hard if there are only 2 left but in vq3 its annoying. And Ql destroyed cpm in CA... This is the most annoying fact... Whatever if you think you are pro then dont play public. THATS A FACT... (I mean with pro = camping) :extralife:

Wat, nobody's touched this thread in weeks...

And what are you trying to say, that CPMA makes Clan Arena good? I'd agree, but Clan Arena NEVER started with CPMA.

Rocket Arena and CPMA are two completely different things, and also if you want that in Quake Live, download the game-types pack on workshop and play Pro Quake Live; all you need to do is host a game and bang. You've got CPMA style Clan Arena.

Also camping is a part of Quake because it makes you play like a conservative Player, there exists these kinds of players in the pro scene too; and if they're so "good" at camping... why not rush the hell out of them with some well placed rockets?

Quake Live has the least problems with camping as the rail is less effective.

[Dufflebags]

Messaggio originale di ^1-^7ffa^1-^7brucelee:

Camping in CA was on Public for skilled players annoying too... You are talking ♥♥♥♥. This Camping ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ destroyed the whole game and mechanics what is quake about. And Clan Arena in VQ3 is the biggest joke ever made... Overkill makes no sense in vq3 because everybody is on top... This makes no sense! The same on DM6 everybody is on bridge... biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... And annoying because it exist since quake 3 this problem... I mean Theater of Pain is not a vq3 map! This map is toooo big. If you play it on CPM in q3 its hard if there are only 2 left but in vq3 its annoying. And Ql destroyed cpm in CA... This is the most annoying fact... Whatever if you think you are pro then dont play public. THATS A FACT... (I mean with pro = camping) :extralife:

I have no idea what this guy is trying to say.

But CA has been around since Quake 1. Shout out to Dm3 and Clanberries. :P