So NO SP at all?

[frostdiamond]

At least QIIIA had a tournament / tier system one could progress with bots. This one has no such "campaign" at all?

[Wylie28]

Its made for esports. No, no sp lmao. Its literally in the name of the game

[AN BIFFED ELF!!!!]

there is no contractually obligated single player mode in Quake Live.

[Daikatan]

Also bots are slightly worse here. So for offline sessions with them, Q3A is more fitted.

[frostdiamond]

Originally posted by Daikatan:

Also bots are slightly worse here. So for offline sessions with them, Q3A is more fitted.

Thank you very much.

[frostdiamond]

Originally posted by AN BIFFED ELF!!!!:

there is no contractually obligated single player mode in Quake Live.

Understood.

[Terotrous]

You can still play alone vs bots, of course. There just isn't a preset gauntlet of matches to go through.

I would say if you do want a game like this with a single-player mode, the best one is in the original Unreal Tournament. Quake 3's single player is quite barebones by comparison (it only has DM / Duel matches, the other game modes aren't represented) and Unreal Tournament 2004's campaign is pretty bad IMO (largely because I hate the non-UTClassic balancing in that game).

[frostdiamond]

Originally posted by Terotrous:

You can still play alone vs bots, of course. There just isn't a preset gauntlet of matches to go through.

I would say if you do want a game like this with a single-player mode, the best one is in the original Unreal Tournament. Quake 3's single player is quite barebones by comparison (it only has DM / Duel matches, the other game modes aren't represented) and Unreal Tournament 2004's campaign is pretty bad IMO (largely because I hate the non-UTClassic balancing in that game).

Been playing UT since 1999 bro, AWESOME game. QIIIA isn't too shabby either and has its own flare; love the railgun. Until they (ever) remaster QIIIA, I'll just stick to the original version then. Thanks for your help.

[Daikatan]

Yeah, Though QuakeLive is highly recommended if you intend play duels with people.

[Terotrous]

I actually think Quake Live plays better than Quake 3 in pretty much every way. It's much smoother, the improved UI is awesome and there's a lot more maps and game types. Even the fact that the game looks a lot better is useful, the increased resolution and brighter colour scheme makes it a lot easier to pick out targets quickly, which is very important for a game like this.

For $3 it's still a pretty good pickup IMO. Granted, the sale is probably over by now.

[Daikatan]

Imho, if you are fan you'll end up playing both.

QuakeLive:

- better netcode
- better interface and usability
- less need to reconfig
- steam workshop maps
- active duel players
- comfortable demo recording and replays
- modern resolutions work without installing patches
etc. etc. etc.

Quake 3 Arena:

- better moddability and customization
- more availble content (much more maps as many custom maps still never got ported to QL; https://lvlworld.com/ reviews on best of them here)
- easier to use cosmetics (player and weapon skins, custom models)
- huge availability of mods that change gameplay (from Gundam Universe, Quake 3 Rally and Western Quake to CPMA, Quake 3 Fortress and DeFRaG)
- better stuff for singleplayer experience (aside from "tournament" mode, also can install improved bots, and mappers can do campaigns using EntityPlus tools https://www.moddb.com/mods/entityplus )
- also slightly different playerbase (oldschool people who never accepted Steam or QLive)
- and i would say some modes have more life in Q3 rather than in QL (q3's clan arena is more relaxed and CPM physics + fastswitch make it better; also perhaps ctf is more expanded).

[Fren]

The bots on nightmare in Q3A are insanely good but here they're way too easy

[shich]

I don't known who needs it now, but this is the closest thing to the Q3A single player tournament you can get for Quake Live (still in development):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBMVRvgo7rg