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Suey Nov 10, 2020 @ 1:21pm
Catherine (spoilers)
Why most people I read only empathize with Simon? I get she used him but she had no physical body to do it and her purpose was more noble (if it was worth it it's another discussion i guess) than Simon's who only seem to care for himself at the very end...

I found the ending nearly poethic, I'd like to think he now have an eternity to think why she was right and why he lost the only friend he had down there.
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Heikai Nov 10, 2020 @ 2:16pm 
I empathize with both of them. Catherine didn't really lie and what else was there to do than to launch the Ark? One reason why the ending was so powerful was that there was no twist and the player and Simon should have seen it coming. This game has like three separate endings back to back and they are all powerful in their own ways btw. Simon is left alone, Simon wakes up inside the Ark and finally the camera zooms out revealing the destroyed Earth while the satellite disappears into the vastness of space. So good! Sorry I'm rambling.
max Nov 10, 2020 @ 6:42pm 
I empathized more with Catherine. Simon is more or less a dimwit. Catherine explained to him how stuff work, several times, but he just didn't seem to get it. So the ending was kind of sad reflection that even after the third time of personal experience, he still doesn't get it.

However, criticizing Catherine's plan is legitimate. Her plan doesn't achieve much, because they cannot go back from the ARK to normal life, it's a one way street. Unless aliens come soon, find the facility at the bottom of the ocean, reverse engineer human computers and all the research data, and then find the satellite. So while her plan preserves some people's consciousness for some thousands of years, the chances of retrieving them are fairly low.
On the other hand WAU offers something more tangible, even though by human perception it's disfigured and repulsive. Also, without the WAU, it doesn't mean that intelligent life will not evolve and thrive again, it's just going to take a lot more time. Which is again better than Catherine's plan.
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Suey Nov 10, 2020 @ 10:53pm 
If your existence is digitalized you have no actual way to modelate the physical world. It would be better if the ARK was designed as a blinded chamber for some thousand of years and then duplicate them once again when everything gets quiet.

You have no way to know how the WAU will handle the evolution. I don't think the evolution should be replicated artificially. If you destroy the WAU at least you make sure the ocean species still alive won't get captured by the gel and can naturally create a marine biome once again.
Greemann Nov 11, 2020 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by .:KaqphögLi:.:
I think because many males playing this and statistics sayin nearly or more than 50% of marriages getting divorced after X years the majority would prefer death or a alternate ending where the WAU makes males plant eggs again :D

I think i have reached the point where i leave the deeper meaning behind and can make fun out of it.

There is something speaking for itself in your question no matter the outcome of the Game.

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rigs Nov 17, 2020 @ 4:05am 
This might sound weird, but at least Catherine (I'm talking about Pathos-II Catherine) is gone.

She doesn't have to suffer a pointless and hopeless existence on earth like Simon-3 does. She completed her goal and conveniently her cortex chip corrupted right after Simon launched the ARK. In a way, it's almost like she won the coin flip, although there obviously never was a real coin flip in the first place.
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Kapakc Nov 19, 2020 @ 10:13am 
I felt real bad when i noticed catherines body. She's talking to you completely unaware that she was raped with a wrench in the head. She was just ambitious with her goal and got killed for it. sad times indeed
Hammer76 Apr 29, 2021 @ 7:09pm 
I really expected Catherine to pull a huge double cross at the end and not upload Simon.
Sugam May 5, 2021 @ 10:12am 
I empathize with everything in this game. Even the little friendly water drone that followed you around for a while. Way too many feels.
Malagon Jul 17, 2021 @ 5:09pm 
Simon is a common idiot, no doubt, but he's also a genuinely good person who just had a really bad hand dealt in life. The real him was dying from an irreversible brain problem he had no real hope of making it out of, and later he wakes up in a nightmare that 90% of people would have lost their minds over, much less survive. I think a lot of players resent Catherine because she uses Simon for her own ends and never really has any compassion for the poor guy at any point in the game. He loses everything at the very last, all after being led on by her with false promises and hope. Honestly if he wasn't so dumb he would have figured it out way earlier, but is that really his fault?
Azar Jul 22, 2021 @ 10:37am 
The game establishes that Simon doesn't take the whole mind copying thing very well, so it's no real surprise that he reacted the way he did. I think Catherine knows this, which is why she didn't say anything so that he'd continue with the mission. It was also annoying that Simon's primary motivation was to get on the Ark and not to save humanity. He's so pissed that his copy didn't get on board that he doesn't understand the incredible thing he's just done. If I were Catherine, I would've mercy killed Simon after copying him to the Ark. Catherine was ok with the situation and would've continued living underwater just fine. It's not like all hope was lost. If you killed off the Wau, then Pathos II is at least safer. And then there's the whole other adventure of going up to the surface to reestablish humanity. With the tech that they have, who knows what's possible.
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