Hospital guards randomly went aggressive

[Doniazade]

Had just traded meds for some materials and stuff, went to fill up the last few inventory slots with materials from non-private containers, i.e I was not stealing. Debris on a bed in a patient room.

This prompted the guards to immediately go aggressive and shoot Marko dead, making me lose my scavenger on day 15 which makes life pretty damn unpleasant without his extra inventory space.

So what the hell.

[󠀡󠀡aynhse]

Looting in the hostpital is not welcome there. That's why you are warned to "behave"

[Doniazade]

Originally posted by 1mirg:

Looting in the hostpital is not welcome there. That's why you are warned to "behave"

I had looted from public containers, i.e debris piles, before.

If it is seriously that simple then the game should not be so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ vague and instead make the containers private, which is what it uses to indicate no-touchy stuff in the other areas.

[billy]

i was moaning about the same thing , looting does seem welcome as the guard and doctors and nurses dont care if you loot , i looted a few things and they dont blink and eye. Plus it has the loot symbol not steal.

But then i went into the top right of the building and as i started looting (not stealing) from some rubble a guy killed me , he didnt look like he worked there , i assumed he was a patient , not sure what happened . Its a badly designed encounter whatever happened as i was none the wiser thinking "WTF" . No idea if he attacked me because i looted ot just attacked me.

All the other things that have happened make sense , this doesnt

edit -just to add i went back to the hospital with another char to try and work out what happened and someone killed me at the front door , maybe it was teh guard not sure . Whole thing left me scratching my head

[Larcen7]

I just had a very odd experience. I sent Marko to the Central Plaza to trade, and before I traded with anyone I looted the first 2 piles (had open palm symbol), and I than I proceeded to trade with 2 different merchants with no problem. I left the map and came back the next night with Katia. As soon as she walked up to the first person, he freaked out and armed guys started coming after me from the trade area. No reason for thier hostility towards me that I can explain.

[YourLittlePogchamp]

Had the same issue, I looted some rubble pile on the second floor, right side of the hospital and everyone freaked out.
When I came back the front guard shot me right away. The next night the guard was standing right at the spawn point where I left him and shot me in the face. Wasted two nights because of this random hostility.

[billy]

i don't know if there is a bug there or just a badly designed encounter or one thats maybe not working right. It's not fun whatever it is.

[Abo]

I had a similar issue. Dunno if it was because of running through the hospital or what... but guards went beserk, and hostile... no loot was touched, though i did crash through a few doors noisily.

[Doniazade]

Has anyone gotten this while not carrying any type of weapon, including crowbar/axe? I'm thinking they might be seeing you as armed if you have those in your inventory. Which is frankly a bit dumb, but whatever.

[Larcen7]

The only issue with that idea is that (for me at least) the NPC's are fine initially. I can trade, loot "non-theft" piles, trade, etc. But then when I come back to the place, they are hostile, or in the case of the hospital, I was just running back upstairs before leaving the map and all hell broke loose.

It's actually killing the fun because I am playing as friendly, no innocents killed or robbed, and I've helped every person that has come to the door. But I am on turn 26 in the dead of winter (my heater is improved w/ full fuel and it's only keeping the temp at 16 & sickness is rampant) so I am buring through supplies like crazy. Ive basically drained all non occupied areas so far for resources, but all other places with any armed NPC's are hostile to me now. 1 more turn of this and I will be forced to steal from the old folks.

[Matra]

I got through the first thirty days or so without any combat, through trading and crafting. Suddenly, I started getting attacked everywhere.

I could not trade at the military base, the garage I had traded at a half-dozen times before, the market, the hospital...in every case, I would walk up in scavenger mode, the trader would immediately shout about something and start shooting.

[Unkil Olaf]

You can NOT enter a patient's room and the only container you can loot is the one outside of the building near the entrance

[imperialpanda]

You can loot stuff in the hospital as long as it's not marked private.

However, you cannot so much as touch/examine anything that's private or locked (i.e. doors on cabinets, which do not initially show up as locked)

Also, if you carry a weapon, I think you have to "unequip" it in your inventory by unchecking the checkbox on it (so checkbox is greyed out). Simply not having it selected at the left side of the screen is not enough. You'll still be seen as hostile. I don't do a lot of combat though so not sure about this.

Still, there are some oddities though. Once at the hospital I looted a raw food out of the barrel outside the front of the hospital and the door guard shouted that's mine and started shooting.

[chris]

Originally posted by Unkil Olaf:

You can NOT enter a patient's room and the only container you can loot is the one outside of the building near the entrance

I walked all through a bunch of patient rooms once and nothing happened to me. Perhaps I was just lucky and no one saw me. I wasn't really paying attention.

I think there are some bugs in the behaviour of other survivors about looting and what is/isn't public. Obviously entering certain rooms for certain NPCs is a taboo. But sometimes I can loot non-private loot in front of people and sometimes it seems to go poorly.

Or perhaps it isn't a bug, but there are just metrics in play for which we players have no indicators to understand. So it feels like a bug.

[Unkil Olaf]

It could be that you can enter anywhere in the hospital as long as you don't open the door yourself, but scavenging anything in the hospital aside from debris would be stealing. That's at least how I understand it.

[mr. Sombre]

In my first game i been in hospital few times and loot all not private containers. No one worry about it. So i think it's okay. Also, doctor help me with a wound.

In next game i went to hospital by Katia and get few woods from public containers. Than just walk over first floor and some body kill me outside of my fov. She has no weapons at all and was in scavanging mode.

I has no idea, why guard went hostile, but it's really sad to loose a teammate for no reason! It's ruined all the good game for more than 6 hours (((

I think devs shold do thm with this. at least if this is "potentially" safe location if u dont go bad, then you shold be notified before u can do thm wrong.