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Cayn 6 DIC 2014 a las 5:30 a. m.
Game crashes when I tab out/minimize (can'r reopen it).
Hi, does anyone else have the issue that they can't reopen the game after they tabbed out? I started it, played normally, everything was fine, then i tabbed out shorty and when i wanted to go back into the game, I couldn't. Task Manager said the process is not responding. Waited a few minutes to see if it just takes a while, but nothing happened. Thats kinda annoying, does anyone know how to fix that?
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Bad Whippet 30 NOV 2015 a las 10:02 p. m. 
Same here - and has been for all versions including the latest 1.4 update. Whether Windowed or Full Screen, ALT-Tabbing out causes the game to crash to desktop. Worse, under Windows 10, ANY pop-up alert that is acknowledged with a click to remove from the game screen (such as new mail) seems to trigger it too. It has now become a very big, game-breaking bug that doesn't always wait for us to alt-tab out.

All my recent attempts have crashed like this and I've given up playing it in Windows 10 until it is resolved.

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Bug happened under Windows 7 and now in Windows 10 too.
Última edición por Bad Whippet; 4 DIC 2015 a las 6:48 a. m.
mira22 4 DIC 2015 a las 4:38 a. m. 
It's been a year, well, 2 days shy of 1 year and the fcking alt-tab crashing bug is still here. Can we please get a fix for this?? It's so annoying when you want to alt-tab out of the game to do something else and you can't because the game's still stuck and you can't even force-close it because the game is somehow still in the foreground but you can't see ♥♥♥♥ or click ♥♥♥♥ and it won't let you click on the task manager after pressing ctrl+alt+delete. Only way to force-close it is to hit ctrl+alt+delete and click Sign out.

Don't get me wrong, I love this game, the game play is superb, soundtrack is nice but I want more freedom, freedom to ALT+TAB and not crash while doing so.

I'm still recommending this game, until I get tired of your ♥♥♥♥ 11 bit studios.

PS. I'm using Windows 8.1 64-bit. Can we get this game in 64-bit instead of the 32-bit one??? PLEASE?!
scai 4 DIC 2015 a las 11:20 a. m. 
There is also a thread at 11bitstudios[forum.11bitstudios.com] about this bug, started over a year ago and confirmed by multiple people.
Última edición por scai; 4 DIC 2015 a las 11:20 a. m.
Bad Whippet 4 DIC 2015 a las 1:50 p. m. 
I don't think the devs have any interest in fixing it. Under Windows 10, with popups that minimise games much more easily, it makes the game hardly worth playing. I'm going to give it a couple of months, then change my review from 'recommended' because I honestly can't recommend TWOM for Windows 10.
KingVeder 24 FEB 2016 a las 8:28 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por The 47:
Hello guys!
What I can say for sure is that the problem doesn't lie in dual monitors, since I've played literally over 1000 hours on two or even three monitors, using Alt+Tab all the time. The problem must lie in some specific situations/configurations. Unfortunately, we're unable to reproduce this problem in our studio, but we do know it's a big one and we'd really like to fix it. I'd like to ask You if:
a) The game crash after each Alt+Tab? Or in some specific situations (for example: 1 hour of playing and the 3rd Alt+Tab)
b) If any of You guys could send us log. Here You can check how to do it:(http://steamcommunity.com/app/282070/discussions/0/617320628066642121/)
Thanks for all your support and patience. I'm so sorry that You've met such inconveniences. We'll do our best to try to fix it in one of the future updates.



How does one sned a log of that very instance it happens ?
scai 26 FEB 2016 a las 10:52 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por H8D KingVeder:
How does one sned a log of that very instance it happens ?
Uhm? The instructions on how to get a log are in the linked post. In short: start the game with -console and then browse to your local game installation where you will find a file named ConsoleOutput.html.
Twilight 26 FEB 2016 a las 4:47 p. m. 
Edge's solution works for me under Win 7 Ultimate x64:
full screen off -> apply -> fullscreen on -> apply.

After that, i can alt-tab back and forth.

I notice that the program needs some time to do so ( restor the graphics from the black screen), apparently there is something using resurces during that.
Teellox 5 JUN 2016 a las 6:50 p. m. 
I have either this, or a related issue under Linux. Luckily I also have a reliable work-around!

The gotcha is I'm running xmonad, which is hardly a common window manager, so your mileage may vary here.

I find the game hangs if I change desktops away from it, however it will *un-hang* if it regains focus from another window on the same desktop with focus-follows-mouse. In my case this means I open up another application on the same desktop as the game, move my focus to that window, move my focus *back* to the game (which will then unhang), and then I maximise the game. I have full-screen mode turned off in the game settings.

I'm guessing the same is looking for some sort of focus even that it's not getting through focus changing from desktop (and possibly alt-tab) changes, but which it is getting through focus-follows-mouse.

Good luck, and I hope this helps!
scai 6 JUN 2016 a las 9:30 a. m. 
Wow, this seems to work! I'm using gnome shell and just switching the windows via alt-tab breaks the game as described multiple times. But switching the windows via mouse works. I don't even have focus-follows-mouse enabled, just activating the game window via click works. Wtf.

Thanks for this great hint!

Still, the developers should fix this issue since they earned tons of money with this simple game.
Bad Whippet 6 JUN 2016 a las 11:34 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Teellox:
I have either this, or a related issue under Linux. Luckily I also have a reliable work-around!

The gotcha is I'm running xmonad, which is hardly a common window manager, so your mileage may vary here.

I find the game hangs if I change desktops away from it, however it will *un-hang* if it regains focus from another window on the same desktop with focus-follows-mouse. In my case this means I open up another application on the same desktop as the game, move my focus to that window, move my focus *back* to the game (which will then unhang), and then I maximise the game. I have full-screen mode turned off in the game settings.

I'm guessing the same is looking for some sort of focus even that it's not getting through focus changing from desktop (and possibly alt-tab) changes, but which it is getting through focus-follows-mouse.

Good luck, and I hope this helps!

I'm not sure I know how to get that to work on a Windows PC. If I click the minimised game on the task bar, then the entire PC locks up.
Última edición por Bad Whippet; 6 JUN 2016 a las 11:34 a. m.
Life is 12 JUN 2016 a las 9:14 p. m. 
Same issue here.
Naughtless 9 AGO 2016 a las 2:04 a. m. 
um I have noticed that this problem still exists.. (im probs necro-ing a really old thread) but.. you can try borderless gaming if you need enormous amounts of alt-tabbing.
Maybe Business? (Work related)
or maybe a trainer? because you hate playing games?
whatever reason. borderless gaming worked. (tip: you gotta set it on windowed type "-windowed" in the mods section. launch parameters.
Vinie 24 DIC 2016 a las 3:13 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Führer:
It's been a year, well, 2 days shy of 1 year and the fcking alt-tab crashing bug is still here. Can we please get a fix for this?? It's so annoying when you want to alt-tab out of the game to do something else and you can't because the game's still stuck and you can't even force-close it because the game is somehow still in the foreground but you can't see ♥♥♥♥ or click ♥♥♥♥ and it won't let you click on the task manager after pressing ctrl+alt+delete. Only way to force-close it is to hit ctrl+alt+delete and click Sign out.

Don't get me wrong, I love this game, the game play is superb, soundtrack is nice but I want more freedom, freedom to ALT+TAB and not crash while doing so.

I'm still recommending this game, until I get tired of your ♥♥♥♥ 11 bit studios.

PS. I'm using Windows 8.1 64-bit. Can we get this game in 64-bit instead of the 32-bit one??? PLEASE?!
Try 2 years, the game not only crashed when alt tabed but also 2 to 10 minutes into the game for no reason. I bought the game 4 days ago, and I deeply regret it
scai 24 DIC 2016 a las 4:18 a. m. 
The developers earned and still earn a buttload of money with the game but don't care about fixing such annoying bugs. Such a shame.
CUBEsMIND 18 ENE 2017 a las 6:33 p. m. 
Freezing on Startup with Dual Monitors

I finally got around to playing this game. When I first started I had the ALT+TAB issue too. After the first time it happened I had to do the sign-out trick and just remained content that I wouldn't be able to tab out, but when I started the game backup it immediately reacted as if I had hit ALT+TAB. Signed out and started back up and same result.

Now two things I noticed:
1) I couldn't interact with anything on the monitor that the game was playing on. Like if I CTRL+SHIFT+ESC to get the task manager, it was as if the game was continuously trying to put itself as the foremost application. (which is why you have to do the signout trick)
2) When I moved my mouse up to my second monitor, which I had left a browser window open on, I could freely interact with that and anything else on the secondary monitor. As soon as I moved the mouse back to the primary monitor I couldn't do anything again. I would have to ALT+TAB to the browser on the secondary monitor to regain control.

That's when I started to search for dual monitor issues and realized that it wasn't just me that had this issue and dual monitors. I think there was a dev comment that said they had dual monitors and had no issues, but here's the thing. I did the signout trick, then when I logged in I did this.

Went into Display Settings > Multiple Displays > Show only on X (where X is the monitor you want to play on)

I know this is a pain, but once I disabled the second monitor before playing the game I had no issues starting and running the game. However the ALT+TAB still locks things up. I'm sharing this because if disabling my secondary monitor got me past one lockup scenario I feel like there might be something to it. I could be wrong, but on the otherhand maybe this will help anyone else that has dual monitors and is having issues with the game freezing up when they start it. Yes I have the latest GPU drivers for my card.

Random Info:
Different resolutions 1920x1080(secondary) and 1680x1050(primary).
Different ratios 16:9(secondary) and 16:10(primary).
Different connections HDMI(secondary) and one is DVI(primary).
(I'm just grasping at straws here, trying to think about what is different.)
I use headphones for sound but the second monitor(that I don't play on) has speakers that I can use.

I don't know I hope this helps anyone out there. I'm actually loving this game so far, so I would hate for new people to turn away from it because that can't start it up.
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