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Patriot Dec 30, 2014 @ 6:32pm
Cheat Engine Failure/success [Solved!]
So I've been attempting to utilize Cheat Engine (a tool I'm pretty experienced with) and have narrowed down many values for items. Now I notice that changing the value of an item will typically crash your game...though sometimes it doesn't. What I haven't been able to figure out is why. At first I thought it was an item cap value. Bzzt. Then I thought maybe it's just when you use the item you had just modified and so use it the next day...bzzt. Then I thought maybe do something crazy. Modify the value send a character running to a crafting location switch characters then craft a portion of the items, and that actually seemed to work...though only on day 3. I've tried to utilize Cheat Engine in the preparation screen (where a certain youtuber recommended) and it seemed to work, however the game would crash if you attempt to proceed to the next day. Anyone know the paramenters that would cause a crash and how to get around it?
Last edited by Patriot; Jan 1, 2015 @ 3:16pm
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Originally posted by eggsalad:
Ok, so after poking around I came up with a strategy to avoid crashes completely:

1. Live the first day, collect as many items as you can, don't spend
2. When night comes, send a charachter to the scavenger hunt
3. In scavenge window take an item you wish to hack from inventory to your bag. Take no less than several items. (Let's say, you took 5 components). Use only items of same type, that's the crucial part to the strategy.
4. Find that value in cheat engine (New scan, first search for 5)
5. Take one item back to inventory (Next scan search for 4)
6. Repeat until you narrow it down to single search row
7. This row represents the amount of items in your bag during the scavenger hunt planning
8. Freeze the row in Cheat Engine (check the "active" checkbox for this row)
9. Take 2-8 of frozen items back to your inventory
10. Unfreeze the row
11. Put items back to the bag
12. Freeze again
13. Take as much as you want (offload from bag to inventory) but do not hurry. The game somehow detects if you obtain items to quickly. You should click with a fast pace but not ridicuously fast. Never take ALL items at once using the right click
14. If frozen items suddenly start to disappear as you put them back from the bag to inventory (the game has detected the annomaly), then unfreeze the row, add one item of the same type from inventory to bag, then freeze the row again
15. Continue untill you have as much as you want
16. Always unfreeze the row when proceeding with the scavenger hung
17. Next night the memory address of the value will change and you'll have to repeat everything again

The best thing about this is that during a single scavenger hunt planning the memory address you obtained while hacking an item of a certain type is valid for the whole duration of the night planning.
Let's say you've just hacked the components item and got yourself a ~300 components in enventory. You unfreeze the row in Cheat Engine. Then, as soon as you clear the bag and put a new item in there the row you found in the Cheat Engine will be updated with the new value of the new item type. You won't have to search again during the same night.
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Sparky/Salty Dec 30, 2014 @ 6:35pm 
Cheaters will be Cheaters.
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Sparky/Salty Dec 30, 2014 @ 6:35pm 
If you going to be a cheater of course there going to be a ''Consequence''.
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Patriot Dec 30, 2014 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
If you going to be a cheater of course there going to be a ''Consequence''.

It's true. The biggest one is you miss out on experiencing the game in all of its splender. Hence why I discourage cheating to get through a game. Though I'm not against cheating. It has it's purposes.
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Sparky/Salty Dec 30, 2014 @ 6:52pm 
Originally posted by Wayne:
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
If you going to be a cheater of course there going to be a ''Consequence''.

It's true. The biggest one is you miss out on experiencing the game in all of its splender. Hence why I discourage cheating to get through a game. Though I'm not against cheating. It has it's purposes.
I'll only cheat if the devs put that in the game. Not some 3rd party cheat.
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The Faceless Admiral Dec 30, 2014 @ 7:08pm 
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
Originally posted by Wayne:

It's true. The biggest one is you miss out on experiencing the game in all of its splender. Hence why I discourage cheating to get through a game. Though I'm not against cheating. It has it's purposes.
I'll only cheat if the devs put that in the game. Not some 3rd party cheat.
+1
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Patriot Dec 30, 2014 @ 7:37pm 
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
Originally posted by Wayne:

It's true. The biggest one is you miss out on experiencing the game in all of its splender. Hence why I discourage cheating to get through a game. Though I'm not against cheating. It has it's purposes.
I'll only cheat if the devs put that in the game. Not some 3rd party cheat.

So you'll only "cheat" if it's spoon fed to you. Guess "cheaters will be cheaters" and lazy people will be lazy. "Cheating" the way those of us using cheat engine (and other meathods) do actually takes hard work and patience. Not some easy "There is no cow level" or "show me the money" Frankly it's that type of hypocrasy my type of cheaters look down upon. Though this is off topic. I hope someone can contribute to the original topic.
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Sparky/Salty Dec 30, 2014 @ 7:58pm 
Cheaters don't look down at anything. Cheating is Cheating.
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Patriot Dec 30, 2014 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
Cheaters don't look down at anything. Cheating is Cheating.

Hence how we're worlds apart.
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Sparky/Salty Dec 30, 2014 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by Wayne:
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
Cheaters don't look down at anything. Cheating is Cheating.

Hence how we're worlds apart.
We aren't worlds apart. We're both human and we're both live on the planet Earth. SO, we have no differences. :)
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Fortrfire Dec 30, 2014 @ 11:09pm 
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
Cheaters will be Cheaters.
You need to chill out. It's a single player game so 'cheaters' aren't affecting you in any way. Acting like modifying your own game experience is some kind of ethical dilemma is beyond stupid.

Wayne, you might have better luck with an answer over in a cheatengine forum, TWOF is decently popular so someone may have already ran into the perticular value that's crashing your game.
Last edited by Fortrfire; Dec 31, 2014 @ 12:41am
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Sparky/Salty Dec 31, 2014 @ 4:28am 
Originally posted by FortrFire:
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
Cheaters will be Cheaters.
You need to chill out. It's a single player game so 'cheaters' aren't affecting you in any way. Acting like modifying your own game experience is some kind of ethical dilemma is beyond stupid.

Wayne, you might have better luck with an answer over in a cheatengine forum, TWOF is decently popular so someone may have already ran into the perticular value that's crashing your game.
It's not affectin gme. I'm just saying ''Cheaters will be Cheaters''.
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Patriot Jan 1, 2015 @ 2:37pm 
Took a little while (about 4 days of trial and error) but I finally broke the code. Item duplication is still possible. If you're curious to know how add me to your friend list and send a PM.
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Sparky/Salty Jan 1, 2015 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by Wayne:
Took a little while (about 4 days of trial and error) but I finally broke the code. Item duplication is still possible. If you're curious to know how add me to your friend list and send a PM.
Play the game fair, please?
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Patriot Jan 1, 2015 @ 5:12pm 
Originally posted by WATEREMLON:
Play the game fair, please?

Does this person make sense to anyone?

Ok, First you don't spell watermelon wateremlon, but I don't tell you to please spell the word correctly. Why don't I (and likely many others) because it's of no relavance or consequence to us. I don't care why you have an insaitable need to tell others how their games should be played (or what lightbulbs they should use or how many times they're allowed to flush a toilet or whatever other trivial things you like to dictate to strangers), but as I said before "cheating" has its purpose, and I'm at the top of the line to tell people if they want the best gaming experience they should avoid cheating, because it really takes a lot away from a game.

However there are those of us who like to experiment or to break a code just because we find it fun to do so. To find flaws and glitches to us that too is fun. I'm a role player at heart and I like nothing more than a good story accompanied by an excellent challenge. So I don't only play the game by cheating.

Just because I know how to cheat doesn't mean I always do. Same with others. Some may cheat all the time, perhaps they're not skilled enough to beat the game without cheating, but still want to play through the game and see how it ends, and there are lots of lazy people these days who will take the easy route and not sharpen their mind or skills to surmount a challenge (I work with a lot of such people these days) However it's not your place or anyone elses to tell them they shouldn't cheat to beat a game which has as its sole purpose to bring joy to people. (To the devs who both enjoy the game and enjoy the profits, as well as to the consumers who pay for the game and enjoy it in their own way.)

Also we all play the game differently. Some may try to scavange everything others will try to kill everyone others still will try to play without stealing and/or killing and then even others which may do a mix of all of the above. Some may cheat to have unlimited water, but never allow themselves to trade it. Some may cheat to have unlimited everything and never leave the house. Some might just want unlimited Ammo. Cheating is a tool to help enhance a person's enjoyment of the game. However I'll say one last time I always recommend playing a game from start to finish before cheating.
Last edited by Patriot; Jan 1, 2015 @ 5:13pm
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Sparky/Salty Jan 1, 2015 @ 5:32pm 
All, I was asking was to play fair... Not, some rude reply back... A ''ytes or no'' would be fine. But, go ahead and do whatever you like. Damn.. Playing the game fair must be hard.
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